Having perfect English....

dereksbicycles · 08-22-2011, 10:20 AM

I'm profoundly deaf, but I pride myself on using good English. My hearing girlfriend has told me that my English is great and so has many hearing people. I know many deaf people don't have perfect English. That is okay with me. My last deaf girlfriend didn't have good English skills. Yet, when I talk to people regardless of their English skills, I use perfect English. Just because other people use ASL grammer doesn't mean I have to use ASL grammer. What do you think?

PowerON · 08-22-2011, 10:21 AM

nobody is perfect in English. Why... newspaper is on 8th grade level English

dereksbicycles · 08-22-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

nobody is perfect in English. Why... newspaper is on 8th grade level English

Exactly!! It seems like Sportingnews.com has some poor English grammer there.

**Beowulf** · 08-22-2011, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dereksbicycles

I'm profoundly deaf, but I pride myself on using good English. My hearing girlfriend has told me that my English is great and so has many hearing people. I know many deaf people don't have perfect English. That is okay with me. My last deaf girlfriend didn't have good English skills. Yet, when I talk to people regardless of their English skills, I use perfect English. Just because other people use ASL grammer doesn't mean I have to use ASL grammer. What do you think?

So what do you want? For us to call you Lord Chesterfield?

jillio · 08-22-2011, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dereksbicycles

I'm profoundly deaf, but I pride myself on using good English. My hearing girlfriend has told me that my English is great and so has many hearing people. I know many deaf people don't have perfect English. That is okay with me. My last deaf girlfriend didn't have good English skills. Yet, when I talk to people regardless of their English skills, I use perfect English. Just because other people use ASL grammer doesn't mean I have to use ASL grammer. What do you think?

What do I think? I think you are trying to find personal value in what you do instead of who you are. And, no offense, but that post comes across as arrogant.

***naisho*** · 08-22-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

What do I think? I think you are trying to find personal value in what you do instead of who you are. And, no offense, but that post comes across as arrogant.

Nothing wrong with being prideful, imo unless he's trying to stir up problems. There are celebrities who are famous for their prideful (and some yet arrogant) personalities.

dereksbicycles · 08-22-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

So what do you want? For us to call you Lord Chesterfield?

King would be better. I can run to local Burger King and get a crown.

jillio · 08-22-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by naisho

Nothing wrong with being prideful, imo unless he's trying to stir up problems. There are celebrities who are famous for their prideful (and some yet arrogant) personalities.

The last I checked, we don't have any celebrities on AD.

And there is something wrong with being prideful when it is publicly stated in such a way as to imply that those who have not achieved such grand skills are a bit below those who have.

Especially on a topic as combustible as deaf and their English skills.

Poster asked what I thought; or what all posters thought. I stated my thoughts.

**Beowulf** · 08-22-2011, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dereksbicycles

Exactly!! It seems like Sportingnews.com has some poor English grammer there.

Frisky Feline · 08-22-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by naisho

Nothing wrong with being prideful, imo unless he's trying to stir up problems. There are celebrities who are famous for their prideful (and some yet arrogant) personalities.

I think you are missing ... like me, if i see someone said about How great their english is and ask me for the opinion. ouchie. get the picture?? Of course, there is nothing wrong about the pride thingy. It is just the way OP's post was....

dereksbicycles · 08-22-2011, 10:51 AM

Sorry if it came out like I am arrogant. I'm not telling anyone that they have to use ASL or good English. I'm just saying that I like to use good English. I would use ASL grammer myself if I wanted to, but I'm more comfortable using English. I'm not "married" to Deaf Community after all. Nothing wrong with using ASL or English for communicate or writing.

***naisho*** · 08-22-2011, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jillio

The last I checked, we don't have any celebrities on AD.

And there is something wrong with being prideful when it is publicly stated in such a way as to imply that those who have not achieved such grand skills are a bit below those who have.

Especially on a topic as combustible as deaf and their English skills.

Poster asked what I thought; or what all posters thought. I stated my thoughts.

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

I think you are missing ... like me, if i see someone said about How great their english is and ask me for the opinion. ouchie. get the picture?? Of course, there is nothing wrong about the pride thingy. It is just the way OP's post was....

I suppose, I understand it can come off the wrong way. I guess I'm the odd man out in this topic. It didn't look to me like he was looking for a fight or insulting anyone or something... Lots of kids like to be prideful in what they can do (misjudged sometimes) but I am not going to rub it in their face...

He did spell something wrong though. Beowulf picked it out.

Tousi · 08-22-2011, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dereksbicycles

Sorry if it came out like I am arrogant. I'm not telling anyone that they have to use ASL or good English. I'm just saying that I like to use good English. I would use ASL grammer myself if I wanted to, but I'm more comfortable using English. I'm not "married" to Deaf Community after all. Nothing wrong with using ASL or English for communicate or writing.

I think you should just nip this in the bud while you can; backpedaling doesn't look good on you.

**Beowulf** · 08-22-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by dereksbicycles

Sorry if it came out like I am arrogant. I'm not telling anyone that they have to use ASL or good English. I'm just saying that I like to use good English. I would use ASL grammer myself if I wanted to, but I'm more comfortable using English. I'm not "married" to Deaf Community after all. Nothing wrong with using ASL or English for communicate or writing.

Tsk, tsk.

dereksbicycles · 08-22-2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

I think you should just nip this in the bud while you can; backpedaling doesn't look good on you.

Good point. Backpedaling in general doesn't look good in life. It can be anything---not just ASL where people try to backpedal for all it's worth and it gets worse and worse.

dereksbicycles · 08-22-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Tsk, tsk.

Oops, I didn't realize my English grammar is getting rusty. I must be part of Deaf Community.

Frisky Feline · 08-22-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by naisho

I suppose, I understand it can come off the wrong way. I guess I'm the odd man out in this topic. It didn't look to me like he was looking for a fight or insulting anyone or something... Lots of kids like to be prideful in what they can do (misjudged sometimes) but I am not going to rub it in their face...

He did spell something wrong though. Beowulf picked it out.

I understand what you are saying. maybe you are righ tthat youre the odd guy.

Like this situation is not the first time for me to see like that. No they are not looking for fights or insulting but oversight theit worded style of telling.

***naisho*** · 08-22-2011, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dereksbicycles

Good point. Backpedaling in general doesn't look good in life. It can be anything---not just ASL where people try to backpedal for all it's worth and it gets worse and worse.

Can you clarify on what this means?
Are you saying ASL users backpedal a lot?

**Beowulf** · 08-22-2011, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dereksbicycles

Oops, I didn't realize my English grammar is getting rusty. I must be part of Deaf Community.

Welcome to the club! I hope you know I was just teasing you.

dereksbicycles · 08-22-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by naisho

Can you clarify on what this means?
Are you saying ASL users backpedal a lot?

It means people can do bad things in relationship in general. Do things that they're not happy with. Maybe alienate friends, you know general stuffs in life. Some times apologizing works. Sometimes not.

Tousi · 08-22-2011, 11:00 AM

Uh Oh.....

dereksbicycles · 08-22-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Beowulf

Welcome to the club! I hope you know I was just teasing you.

I know!! I can say

Frisky Feline · 08-22-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Uh Oh.....

DItto. that.... backfire!

***naisho*** · 08-22-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dereksbicycles

It means people can do bad things in relationship in general. Do things that they're not happy with. Maybe alienate friends, you know general stuffs in life. Some times apologizing works. Sometimes not.

Cool, thanks for the clarification but I still don't see the need for saying "ASL users", you're instigating something in that sentence unless it's a mistype.. You should correct it unless you really meant it.

Frisky Feline · 08-22-2011, 11:04 AM

naisho...
THAT!!! now you got it.

**Jiro** · 08-22-2011, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by PowerON

nobody is perfect in English. Why... newspaper is on 8th grade level English

depends on which newspapers. Most local newspapers are between 4th grade to 6th grade.

More advanced newspapers like NY Times are at around 8th-9th grade.

dereksbicycles · 08-22-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jiro

depends on which newspapers. Most local newspapers are between 4th grade to 6th grade.

More advanced newspapers like NY Times are at around 8th-9th grade.

SO that explains the expensive price to read NY times as opposed to Chicago Tribune, right?

***naisho*** · 08-22-2011, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

I understand what you are saying. maybe you are righ tthat youre the odd guy.

Like this situation is not the first time for me to see like that. No they are not looking for fights or insulting but oversight theit worded style of telling.

Yes, I understand that you have the premonition that something may happen etc or he is looking to make fun of Deaf people for bad english and Deafs do not like that. It was apparent on Gallaudet campus that Deafies don't like being rubbed for their grammar.

I'm kind of factoring other things in my post.. Derek's a fairly new guy, we all know alldeaf needs more people around to talk with. My ultimatum is that I wanted to see more members stay around here, not disappear and quit because they got ridiculed.

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Originally Posted by Frisky Feline

naisho...
THAT!!! now you got it.

I want physical evidence, not anecdotal.

**Jiro** · 08-22-2011, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dereksbicycles

It means people can do bad things in relationship in general. Do things that they're not happy with. Maybe alienate friends, you know general stuffs in life. Some times apologizing works. Sometimes not.

I thought we're talking about your perfect English?

**Jiro** · 08-22-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dereksbicycles

SO that explains the expensive price to read NY times as opposed to Chicago Tribune, right?

it just means New Yorkers make more money than Chicagoans

08-22-2011, 10:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
dereksbicycles Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: 60202 Posts: 3,797	Having perfect English.... I'm profoundly deaf, but I pride myself on using good English. My hearing girlfriend has told me that my English is great and so has many hearing people. I know many deaf people don't have perfect English. That is okay with me. My last deaf girlfriend didn't have good English skills. Yet, when I talk to people regardless of their English skills, I use perfect English. Just because other people use ASL grammer doesn't mean I have to use ASL grammer. What do you think?

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08-22-2011, 10:51 AM	#11 (permalink)
dereksbicycles Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: 60202 Posts: 3,797	Sorry if it came out like I am arrogant. I'm not telling anyone that they have to use ASL or good English. I'm just saying that I like to use good English. I would use ASL grammer myself if I wanted to, but I'm more comfortable using English. I'm not "married" to Deaf Community after all. Nothing wrong with using ASL or English for communicate or writing.

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Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,732	Uh Oh.....

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Frisky Feline Registered User Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 20,239	naisho... THAT!!! now you got it.