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Unread 07-07-2012, 01:46 AM   #331 (permalink)
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Ok, so, I've seen this gloss of a sign a few times, and I'm having trouble figuring out what it means. It's "ORANGE-THROAT". I thought it could be the sign for when you express or witness an embarrassing action ("5" hand to manual "S" hand on throat)? Maybe I'm way off, but some help would definitely be appreciated. Thanks so much.
It's wanting to take something back or realizing you said something stupid or embarrassing. At least that's how I've seen it used. There are a lot of very descriptive signs dealing with similar feelings and I'm not sure how to explain the differences, but it's definitely along those lines.
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Unread 07-08-2012, 10:25 PM   #332 (permalink)
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Ok, so, I've seen this gloss of a sign a few times, and I'm having trouble figuring out what it means. It's "ORANGE-THROAT". I thought it could be the sign for when you express or witness an embarrassing action ("5" hand to manual "S" hand on throat)? Maybe I'm way off, but some help would definitely be appreciated. Thanks so much.
Gloss I have always seen attached to that is EAT YOUR WORDS, like super-embarrassed, caught in the act, etc. It can also be done with the open 8 handshape that taps on the throat and means like UHHHHH.... Like getting caught doing something you shouldn't/not knowing what to say.
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Unread 07-09-2012, 05:34 PM   #333 (permalink)
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Yeah, if my understanding is right, I'd put it in English terms as realizing you just put your foot into your mouth. Acknowledging that you've done something embarrassing and feel uncomfortably on the spot. Like you tell your friend Sally that you can't stand Bob, and Bob overhears/sees your comment. Later, as you tell Jane the story, you would sign that Bob saw you and then you would slowly "orange throat" yourself with a guilty look on your face.
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The closest gloss I can think of right now is VERKLEMPT or ALL-CHOKED-UP.

It's not really ORANGE at the throat because the palm orientation is facing the throat, and the fingertip orientation is upward at the start, not sideways.
That ORANGE at throat sign is GULP - as in being verbally defeated ("owned").

As in WHO is making the 2nd person gulp, you use the U handshape and thrust it directly at him/her - that's OUTSMART.
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Hey, how do you describe time travel? As in, "so-and-so went back in time" or "so and so went back in time, then came back to the future?" Is there a standard sign for time travel? My inclination was to sign GO LONG-AGO, but is that a bad idea?

Also, how do you sign "violated?" Not like "broke a rule," but that feeling where it's like someone has invaded your boundaries to hurt you and you feel sick and upset and like they've gotten under your skin and you can't get away from them even if you can physically get away? Seems like if any language should have a word for this, ASL should.
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Hey, how do you describe time travel? As in, "so-and-so went back in time" or "so and so went back in time, then came back to the future?" Is there a standard sign for time travel? My inclination was to sign GO LONG-AGO, but is that a bad idea?

Also, how do you sign "violated?" Not like "broke a rule," but that feeling where it's like someone has invaded your boundaries to hurt you and you feel sick and upset and like they've gotten under your skin and you can't get away from them even if you can physically get away? Seems like if any language should have a word for this, ASL should.
Both would depend on the exact context in which they were used.

For time - it depends on the context & phrase ...archaelogist digging to go back in time to discover something from a window of time would be totally different than if you said to someone "whooo , rewind! Go back to the beginning of what happened last week and start from there"

With violated, again, it depends if it's physical, emotional, pychological etc ...and again "how" etc.
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Both would depend on the exact context in which they were used.

For time - it depends on the context & phrase ...archaelogist digging to go back in time to discover something from a window of time would be totally different than if you said to someone "whooo , rewind! Go back to the beginning of what happened last week and start from there"

With violated, again, it depends if it's physical, emotional, pychological etc ...and again "how" etc.
For time travel, I meant the kind that happens on Doctor Who or in Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. It's, say, Tuesday evening and you use some kind of sci-fi or magical device to go back to, say, Monday morning and do stuff. The kind of thing you'd have to do if you wanted to meet Abraham Lincoln.

With "violated" I was thinking it would be... well, I'm not sure I want to describe exactly what I was thinking of, so imagine how you'd feel if someone held you down and gave you a tattoo against your will. Painfully. Aside from angry and in pain, you'd also be feeling violated. You'd feel like your boundaries had been shattered and now you were left with a reminder that wouldn't go away. Is there a sign for that?
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How do you sign "mortgage" - as in house mortgage? Same as LOAN?
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Unread 09-03-2012, 04:39 PM   #339 (permalink)
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How do you sign "mortgage" - as in house mortgage? Same as LOAN?
With the little finger of the right M hand on the Index finger of the left M hand, fingers pointing in opposite directions and palms facing in, tip the hands forward. It says it's similar to the sign lend. My instructor had us buy a signing dictionary just in case we forget a sign.
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In the context of a calculus course, how do you sign derivative/differentiate?
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I like that. Except the god sign in Auslan disgusts me
The actual God sign in Auslan is the sign for "G" then the pointer finger pointing upwards above shoulder. :-)
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Unread 10-12-2012, 10:07 PM   #342 (permalink)
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In the context of a calculus course, how do you sign derivative/differentiate?
Signs for technical/specialized vocabulary - D
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How would one sign the infamous tale-opener "There once was..."? Is there a format generally used like in many other languages?

EDIT: Nevermind, I found the variation of "Once upon a time..."
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What's the sign for "escapade" (meaning an act or incident involving excitement, daring, or adventurous)?
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Hello, I'm a first year ASL student and I'm having trouble translating this story from English grammar to ASL grammar.

"Last week I went to the library. In the parking lot I saw my friend’s car, so I parked next to it. I went in the front door and went upstairs to the third floor. The study room was on the right side. My friend was there, and we studied sign language. When we finished, we went downstairs and bought a cup of coffee. I had a good time!"
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Hello, I'm a first year ASL student and I'm having trouble translating this story from English grammar to ASL grammar.

"Last week I went to the library. In the parking lot I saw my friend’s car, so I parked next to it. I went in the front door and went upstairs to the third floor. The study room was on the right side. My friend was there, and we studied sign language. When we finished, we went downstairs and bought a cup of coffee. I had a good time!"
It seems pretty straight forward. It's already laid out in chronological order, short logical chunks, and basic vocabulary. It should be easy to translate.

Don't forget to indicate directions that you move.

Make sure you actually sign each chunk as you translate it on paper. Then, sign the whole thing to make sure it flows logically. Do you have a classmate to practice with? If you could take turns signing your translations to each other, it would be good way to check your work.

Other than the above suggestions, you have to do your own homework. I mean, really. You'll never learn if you don't do the work.
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When we finished, we went downstairs and bought a cup of coffee. Is the only sentence I need help with, I'm not sure how to do compound sentences.
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How do you sign "commemorate"?

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English Sentence: We had a party to commemorate my parents 50th wedding anniversary.
Sign Description: Both hands with A-handshapes, one started at the forehead moves down and rests on top of the other.
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That's the same sign for REMEMBER.
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Depending on the context, you can use REMEMBER, HONOR, or CELEBRATE.
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That's the same sign for REMEMBER.
I noticed that
I guess I was expecting something fancier. Or something.
It's all good. I appreciate the help.
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Depending on the context, you can use REMEMBER, HONOR, or CELEBRATE.
Thanks!

It was for part of a church service:

"Commemorating our most holy, most pure, most blessed and glorious Lady, the Theotokos and Ever-Virgin Mary with all the saints, let us commit ourselves and one another and our whole life..."

Not sure which choice to go with.

And since I've started typing the passage out, Wikipedia tells me that Theotokos is synonymous with Virgin Mary- which I have a sign for from a member of the congregation. So I'm thinking just use that? Ignore the repetition and just chalk it up to English's typical over-wording of everything?

ps: it sounds like I'm interpreting for a church service, which I'm not. (Just saying since I want to be clear that I know that I'm not at that level of competence yet.) What I'm actually doing I'm going to save for PM's - TMI for the intrawebs.
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Thanks!

It was for part of a church service:

"Commemorating our most holy, most pure, most blessed and glorious Lady, the Theotokos and Ever-Virgin Mary with all the saints, let us commit ourselves and one another and our whole life..."

Not sure which choice to go with.

And since I've started typing the passage out, Wikipedia tells me that Theotokos is synonymous for Virgin Mary- which I have a sign for from a member of the congregation. So I'm thinking just use that? Ignore the repetition and just chalk it up to English's typical over-wording of everything?

ps: it sounds like I'm interpreting for a church service, which I'm not. (Just saying since I want to be clear that I know that I'm not at that level of competence yet.) What I'm actually doing I'm going to save for PM's - TMI for the intrawebs.
Theotokos isn't really translated "Virgin Mary." It means "God-bearer." However, the reference is to Mary. Theotokos and Virgin are two different aspects of Mary.
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I noticed that
I guess I was expecting something fancier. Or something.
It's all good. I appreciate the help.
Fancier? I notice that the English versions of the Eastern liturgy uses "Remembering," instead of commemorating, so signing REMEMBER seems to fit just right.
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Theotokos isn't really translated "Virgin Mary." It means "God-bearer." However, the reference is to Mary. Theotokos and Virgin are two different aspects of Mary.
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks!
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Fancier? I notice that the English versions of the Eastern liturgy uses "Remembering," instead of commemorating, so signing REMEMBER seems to fit just right.
Wow Reba- thanks so much for all this. Big help.
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Ok, more church words.


Consecrated

Host

Venerable


And if your patience with me hasn't run out:


Presbyteriate

Diaconate (Wikipedia redirects to deacon, for which I found a sign in aslpro's religious dictionary. maybe a stretch, not sure.)

Beseech (I'm thinking maybe I can use ask or beg, but not sure.)

Bow (I know the sign for "bow your head" with the nd hand gripping the dh wrist, and the dh makes a fist and sort of drops itself like it's the head bowing. But if the congregants are just told to bow down, is that different?)


I think that should be it for a while. The rest of my problem words I suspect I'll have to fingerspell. Like Cherubikon:0
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Ok, more church words.


Consecrated

Host

Venerable


And if your patience with me hasn't run out:


Presbyteriate

Diaconate (Wikipedia redirects to deacon, for which I found a sign in aslpro's religious dictionary. maybe a stretch, not sure.)

Beseech (I'm thinking maybe I can use ask or beg, but not sure.)

Bow (I know the sign for "bow your head" with the nd hand gripping the dh wrist, and the dh makes a fist and sort of drops itself like it's the head bowing. But if the congregants are just told to bow down, is that different?)


I think that should be it for a while. The rest of my problem words I suspect I'll have to fingerspell. Like Cherubikon:0
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