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Unread 12-19-2010, 06:32 PM   #241 (permalink)
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All he wanted to know is who here can talk. It isn't about philosophy.
I'm relatively late deafened and I talk so much people probably wish I would shut up!
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Unread 12-19-2010, 06:40 PM   #242 (permalink)
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I'm relatively late deafened and I talk so much people probably wish I would shut up!
I am born deaf. Pretty much have shut up. I don't think anyone cares. I am certain people who know you are glad if you can talk to them.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 07:35 PM   #243 (permalink)
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c'mon. don't be shy! confess to me!
Yep..I am ..speak perfectly, no deaf accent and read lips really well so ..most ppl can't tell i am deaf....i can't hear my own voice tho and sometimes i am a bit loud..laughing..
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Talkie Deafie? Yep, that's me. I'm sorry I ever learned to talk, though.
wow that is amazing to me..that you wished you had never learned to talk,
I say that because, I find I am not fully accepted in the deaf community because i do speak well...I have even been accused of faking my deafness
yeah like i stuck pencils in my ears...geez....
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Unread 12-19-2010, 07:43 PM   #245 (permalink)
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Clarification - what I'm asking is if there is any deafie in here who can VERBALLY communicate with hearing people fluently. That doesn't mean you have a very good understanding of English grammar. If you can FLUENTLY TALK but you are not easily understood by them (like me), that's ok.. you still count If you are late-deaf, you still count.

What doesn't count is - You speak only few words when communicating with hearies.

You get what I'm saying?
OK I got ya...i am definately one...no one has a problem understanding me..
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I am born deaf. Pretty much have shut up. I don't think anyone cares. I am certain people who know you are glad if you can talk to them.
This breaks my heart. I'm sure you have people in your life who want to "hear" what you have to say.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 10:14 PM   #247 (permalink)
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This breaks my heart. I'm sure you have people in your life who want to "hear" what you have to say.
One to one with her daughter or any member of her family to talk oral or sign. If she sign with deaf members of the Deaf community in her area, then she will have something to say a lot, I think.
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Unread 12-19-2010, 10:37 PM   #248 (permalink)
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One to one with her daughter or any member of her family to talk oral or sign. If she sign with deaf members of the Deaf community in her area, then she will have something to say a lot, I think.
And when I do talk to the deaf community , people are very nice to me. But even if you may not know it from the way I behave here, I am very shy.

Plus I am not a great signer, so I always feel like I am their favorite child. And that is a little embarrassing at my age.

And you know I am usually very tough and happy. I don't know what made me say that above.
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Unread 12-20-2010, 12:08 AM   #249 (permalink)
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Count me in, I am what you say oral deaf. Used to have a speech impediment, now some just say I speak with a English accent. The public says "you speak so well, you can't be deaf". Yeah right!
Wow! I thought I was the only one who talked with an accent. Everyone who meets me thinks I'm British.
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How odd. I thought I replied to this topic.

I also have been told that I sound British. Nobody who has heard me talk thinks I sound Deaf. Just that I have an accent.
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Hearing people have told me many times that voices over the phone are somewhat distorted. They said there is an obvious difference when a voice is done in the flesh and when it is done through electronics (phone, TV, speaker, etc.)

I wonder if the CI makes this difference even bigger? Or perhaps CI therapy and mapping is always done in real life and they rarely take the phone into account?
The topic of the thread...

First to get out of the way, I'm oral deaf through and through. First, I had a HA since 3 and a CI since 47. With my HA, I had a slight deaf voice that most didn't really notice and I was a little bit nasel. Now with a CI, I lost all traces of the deaf voice and speak much more naturally. I will say that a CI really allows one to hear oneself really well. Makes a big difference with one's speech.

Back to the reply about phones...

Yea while I can use the phone with the best of them (hearing), the phone does distort a little. I have no trouble understanding the person but I'm not sure whom I speaking to at times. If depends if it somebody I don't speak with on the phone much versus somebody who I know well.
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I am a talking deafie. I was completely mainstreamed without sign language. I am profound deaf in left ear, hh in right ear.
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Unread 12-20-2010, 08:58 PM   #253 (permalink)
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I am a talking deafie. I was completely mainstreamed without sign language. I am profound deaf in left ear, hh in right ear.
If we do coffee, I will make the effort to talk .
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Unread 12-20-2010, 09:04 PM   #254 (permalink)
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If we do coffee, I will make the effort to talk .
And I will make the effort to learn some signs. I already know a few but I am far from fluent!
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And I will make the effort to learn some signs. I already know a few but I am far from fluent!
Don't worry about it . I am far from a great signer. Kind of ASL mixed with home sign.
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Saw this just now. Count me in. I had to learn to speak because of the oral school I went to. Prefer ASL over speaking anyday.

The last guy I talk to (about awnings) is very easy to understand and we discussed real good - without any writing. I am sure I have an accent as sometimes some people don't understand me.
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Unread 12-20-2010, 09:11 PM   #257 (permalink)
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Don't worry about it . I am far from a great signer. Kind of ASL mixed with home sign.
That will work. Hopefully we will be able to do coffee someday as I am already looking forward to it. You will also get to meet my DD as well. I don't plan on leaving her here!
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Unread 12-20-2010, 09:15 PM   #258 (permalink)
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That will work. Hopefully we will be able to do coffee someday as I am already looking forward to it. You will also get to meet my DD as well. I don't plan on leaving her here!
The party could grow! I could invite granddaughters so she could have someone to talk to.
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Unread 12-20-2010, 09:17 PM   #259 (permalink)
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The party could grow! I could invite granddaughters so she could have someone to talk to.
Cool. Might as well get some reservations at a restaurant then, lol. Wonder if they will book years in advance?
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Cool. Might as well get some reservations at a restaurant then, lol. Wonder if they will book years in advance?
Just wait until you are ready. I think you can pretty much walk in anywhere around here and get seated.
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Just wait until you are ready. I think you can pretty much walk in anywhere around here and get seated.
Depending upon which part of Iowa you are in would be better for me to drive or fly??? It'll take me two days to get up there if I drive.
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Depending upon which part of Iowa you are in would be better for me to drive or fly??? It'll take me two days to get up there if I drive.
I live in Des Moines. Drive! It is on the interstate and our airport sucks.
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I live in Des Moines. Drive! It is on the interstate and our airport sucks.
Hmm, sounds like a road trip is in the works then. I can stay overnight in St. Louis (Westport area) then make it to Des Moines sometime the next evening if I drive hard enough. When I arrive I'll be booking a hotel with a pool. You could show me around the city and maybe do some shopping. Then we could post about it here, hopefully we don't end up getting a free ride to the police station!
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The topic of the thread...

First to get out of the way, I'm oral deaf through and through. First, I had a HA since 3 and a CI since 47. With my HA, I had a slight deaf voice that most didn't really notice and I was a little bit nasel. Now with a CI, I lost all traces of the deaf voice and speak much more naturally. I will say that a CI really allows one to hear oneself really well. Makes a big difference with one's speech.
Yes, I'm another that it wasn't till I got the CI was when I realized the extent I was nasal. And how my "S"s sometime sounded like a "D" or the extent I didn't always blow enough air for an "H". Although I'm starting to make such sounds more regularly as I continue to work on them...
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I'm deaf oral...I was born deaf-profound in left hear, HA in right. I couldn't talk til I was 2 when my adopted mum started to teach me to speak in voice....years of speech therapy, which I HATED...I never knew about deaf world or signing...my parents didn't want me to be involved in the deaf world, so I didn't learn about the deaf or about Auslan til 11-12 years ago. Now I have quite a few deaf friends, and I sign quite well, and when I am around my hearing friends, I talk really well with them. I'm seen as the bridge between two worlds at my church, because I interpret for the deaf (who don't don't speak-only sign), and the hearing world who can't sign. I quite enjoy it at times, but there have been times and still are where I wonder exactly which world I really belong in...seems so often some deaf see me as hearing bse I'm oral as well as signing, and treat me like a bit of an outcast and with great suspicion, like I'm not really one of them, and some hearing see me as deaf, and don't have much patience for me when I ask them to repeat what they say or to let me lipread them. *sighs*

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wow that is amazing to me..that you wished you had never learned to talk,
I say that because, I find I am not fully accepted in the deaf community because i do speak well...I have even been accused of faking my deafness
yeah like i stuck pencils in my ears...geez....
It wasn't easy for me to be accepted in the deaf community either. Many deaf people were really harsh to me because they knew I could, and did, speak.

Many people think I'm hard of hearing and choose to refuse to believe I'm profoundly deaf.

When I tried to get transferred to the deaf school when I was in high school, the audiologist heard me speak to my parents...she concluded I had too much hearing to qualify. WITHOUT looking at my audiogram or assessments. My mother told her I was deaf in both ears. She finally agreed to doing an audiogram...and she was shocked. Then she made me to two more just to make sure I wasn't "faking" it. Then she saw my other assessments from other aud's and saw their assessments were the same results as hers. She finally looked at my mother and said, "She's deaf. She really is."

I regret learning how to speak because it makes it harder on me. People assume I can hear good enough, so they won't provide the appropriate modifications. I can talk to them, so they often won't write back what they are saying or take the time to make sure I can understand them. Some of them will make the assumption that all deaf people can speak like me, which makes me a bad role model. I feel a lot of deaf people resent me for being able to speak, and I hide the fact I can whenever possible. Speaking is hard work. And when I do use speech I can't help but feel dirty about it. I feel like I'm betraying my true self or something.

By speaking, I'm putting myself in the middle - with no place to belong.
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Wow! I thought I was the only one who talked with an accent. Everyone who meets me thinks I'm British.
I'm "German."
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I'm deaf oral...I was born deaf-profound in left hear, HA in right. I couldn't talk til I was 2 when my adopted mum started to teach me to speak in voice....years of speech therapy, which I HATED...I never knew about deaf world or signing...my parents didn't want me to be involved in the deaf world, so I didn't learn about the deaf or about Auslan til 11-12 years ago. Now I have quite a few deaf friends, and I sign quite well, and when I am around my hearing friends, I talk really well with them. I'm seen as the bridge between two worlds at my church, because I interpret for the deaf (who don't don't speak-only sign), and the hearing world who can't sign. I quite enjoy it at times, but there have been times and still are where I wonder exactly which world I really belong in...seems so often some deaf see me as hearing bse I'm oral as well as signing, and treat me like a bit of an outcast and with great suspicion, like I'm not really one of them, and some hearing see me as deaf, and don't have much patience for me when I ask them to repeat what they say or to let me lipread them. *sighs*

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Wow! Do I *EVER* know what you mean. Which world do I belong in? It's hardly my fault that my hearing parents wouldn't allow me to assimilate amongst my own community of people, as it were, so why do so many Deaf reject a deafie who can speak?
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It wasn't easy for me to be accepted in the deaf community either. Many deaf people were really harsh to me because they knew I could, and did, speak.

Many people think I'm hard of hearing and choose to refuse to believe I'm profoundly deaf.

When I tried to get transferred to the deaf school when I was in high school, the audiologist heard me speak to my parents...she concluded I had too much hearing to qualify. WITHOUT looking at my audiogram or assessments. My mother told her I was deaf in both ears. She finally agreed to doing an audiogram...and she was shocked. Then she made me to two more just to make sure I wasn't "faking" it. Then she saw my other assessments from other aud's and saw their assessments were the same results as hers. She finally looked at my mother and said, "She's deaf. She really is."

I regret learning how to speak because it makes it harder on me. People assume I can hear good enough, so they won't provide the appropriate modifications. I can talk to them, so they often won't write back what they are saying or take the time to make sure I can understand them. Some of them will make the assumption that all deaf people can speak like me, which makes me a bad role model. I feel a lot of deaf people resent me for being able to speak, and I hide the fact I can whenever possible. Speaking is hard work. And when I do use speech I can't help but feel dirty about it. I feel like I'm betraying my true self or something.

By speaking, I'm putting myself in the middle - with no place to belong.
I've experienced the exact same thing. My audiologist, however, was more shocked at how well I've done in life considering I had no support whatsoever to be assisted in my communication.

<whispering> I also have moments where I feel dirty. Isn't that ridiculous? We are fortunate to be able to communicate so well in both languages and shouldn't feel dirty about it and yet, especially when I'm around other deafies who only know sign, I feel so dirty annunciating words.
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I'm deaf oral...I was born deaf-profound in left hear, HA in right. I couldn't talk til I was 2 when my adopted mum started to teach me to speak in voice....years of speech therapy, which I HATED...I never knew about deaf world or signing...my parents didn't want me to be involved in the deaf world, so I didn't learn about the deaf or about Auslan til 11-12 years ago. Now I have quite a few deaf friends, and I sign quite well, and when I am around my hearing friends, I talk really well with them. I'm seen as the bridge between two worlds at my church, because I interpret for the deaf (who don't don't speak-only sign), and the hearing world who can't sign. I quite enjoy it at times, but there have been times and still are where I wonder exactly which world I really belong in...seems so often some deaf see me as hearing bse I'm oral as well as signing, and treat me like a bit of an outcast and with great suspicion, like I'm not really one of them, and some hearing see me as deaf, and don't have much patience for me when I ask them to repeat what they say or to let me lipread them. *sighs*

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I'm starting to realize there is another world...not a deaf world where there are native signers and not a hearing world...but a world of people like you, me, and others who share similar experiences. We're "mainstreaming" yet either the deaf and the hearing world isn't too accepting. How ironic.
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