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matajan: speechreading as such has nothing to do with your speaking but does try to understand someone speaking to YOU. From your hearing plus grasping "lip movement formation of visemes"-constants pbm etc. Paying attention to the context of what is being spoken. Of course, one can't speechread sounds down the "others throat" which in the end is why one can't grasped everything being spoken.
That is my understanding from taking Speechreading classes at Cdn Hearing Society/Toronto. Implanted Advanced Bionics-Harmony activated Aug/07
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Some people tend to use their hand / facial expressions and body language more than others. While others are kind of guarded and do most of the communicating through auditory means. There are different factors involved such as genetics, ethnicity, environmental, family characteristics or traits, sense preferences/strengths, etc.
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The hardest part to explain to those who can't hear/understand speech is that there is a multiplicity of nuances to clue in on. There is the words themselves, then it is the contextual aspect, then there is the tone, how it is being said, what is being stressed (wordwise) then lastly there is the gestural aspect. Even without the gestural part, one can gleam a great deal of information from speech alone. A good storyteller using speech has many tools to spin a yarn that one can believe they are actually "there" in the story in their imagination.
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I read that experts say that only 30% of the English language can be deciphered with lip reading. Not very good odds for following speech. When I read lips, I rely on visual cues and context. Problem is that sometimes I get busted for following along while hoping to pick up ideas from the context.
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What is alternate to trying speechreading-do nothing/ignore if one has a hearing loss?
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Sorry if this is late but I'm new here and yes, I'm oral deaf =P
I'm deaf and use sign language as my first mean of communication but I can use speaking too
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I started taking speech when I was about 4 years old, and I stopped taking speech in my last year of high school until my last day of high school. I can talk pretty well, I think that I have a small deaf accent when there are certain words i can't say, like railroad or jewelry; especially jewelry. But when there are words i can't say, my dad would help me out by allowing me to put my hands on his throat and feel the vibrations as he's pronouncing it. I have severe hearing loss and have bilateral cochlear implants. But i had hearing aids before i was implanted on my right side, even before i was implanted on my left ear before 8 years old.
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Born profoundly deaf, I can't talk on the phone but I can communicate with the hearing world. I even used to work at a flea market selling stuff and right now I'm a computer programmer and work with coworkers who are hearing. Yay me!
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I have 2 cochlear implants and I am oral. I rely on lip-reading but I do have auditory processing so I ask questions to be sure of what I am doing or what i could be doing.
The thing is I don't know if I have a deaf accent. I have some friends at my school, 2 is hoh and 2 has cochlear implants. I noticed one friend has an accent and I actually liked her's. :d |
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I speech read and talk as my primary form of communication. This is how I was raised. Now that I'm an adult, I am choosing to learn to sign, and then will give up speech reading and talking, except for with family members who don't know how to sign.
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Yep, i'm an oral deafie.
When I get done with college, I'm going to go full-bore into learning ASL from a Deaf teacher in an accredited program. A while back, I tried to take a half-*ssed ASL course from an interpreter, but it was geared to hearies, and there was no book or curriculum, so I gave up on that. I had a really hard time following what the teacher was saying in that class.
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