Mrs Bucket

History of Cochlear Implants source

The age for implantation was lowered from 18 years old to 2 years old at 1980 not 1990.

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faire_jour

"In December 1984, the Australian cochlear implant was approved by the United States Food and Drug Administration to be implanted into adults in the United States. In 1990 the FDA lowered the approved age for implantation to 2 years, then 18 months in 1998, and finally 12 months in 2002, although off label use has occurred in babies as young as 6 months in the United States and 4 months internationally"

Cochlear implant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"1990 - The FDA approved the use of cochlear implants in children as young as 2 years. "

Cochlear Implants

"The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) first approved cochlear implant devices for adults in 1985 and for children in 1990."

http://cochlearimplants.med.miami.ed...ex.asp#howlong

"In June 1990, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved the Nucleus Cochlear Implant System for children aged 2 to 17 years."

http://www.deafblind.com/cochlear.html

"Cochlear implants have been FDA approved for adults since 1985 and FDA approved for children since 1990."

http://www.hearaz.com/wst_page7.html

rick48

Interesting article. I have read many other papers by Geers over the years (nice rhyme) as she is one of the leaders in this field.

I do not take this article as meaning that ASL impedes one's ability to develop speech as much as the academic placement itself plays an important role.

Did you find it interesting that as soon as you produce empirical evidence that is contrary to the prevailing view of some on this board that immediately they launch into attack mode and out comes the oldie but goodie that of course mainstream kids have social problems, etc. etc.?

I think a lot of this is self-evident, if your child is in an academic environment that is voices-off do you realistically expect your child to develop his speech to the same extent as a child who is in a mainstream setting?

But speech intelligiblity is but one pice of the puzzle for you also have to consider the academic part and also the social part.

I truly feel for you for you are now at a crossroad for your own child and I wish there was one easy and right answer. For us, it was the mainstream for others it was a deaf school. Whatever you choose, continue to monitor and constantly re-evaluate, nothing is set in concrete and if it is not working out make the change.

I do not always agree with you but I have never doubted the sincereity and depth of love and concern that you have for your child. Do not underestimate those qualities!
Best wishes,
Rick

rick48

True, at that point in time these children were part of the clinical trials being conducted that ultimetely led to the lowering of the age to 2 by the FDA in 1990.

When my daughter was implanted in July of 89 she was the then youngest child with an implant, a disitinction she held for only a few weeks until our friend's daughter was implanted. Back then even though there was no internet like today, we knew many of the implanted families as we would talk to each other over the phone to ask questions and seek advice.
Rick

jillio

And your point on that one would be? If you will check your thread that was closed, you will find that I have been given the honorary title of "Deaf". Why? Beacause when I seek to advocate for and serve the deaf/Deaf population, I take the deaf/Deaf perspective regarding their needs. "Nothing for us without us." You might consider doing that yourself, since the goal is to serve the needs of the deaf child, not the hearing parent.

jillio

Because I am concerned with the linguisitic, educational, and psycho-social needs of the deaf child. ALL deaf children. The Deaf/deaf don't seem to have a problem with that. Why do you?

jillio

The CI most certainly was available when my son was young. I chose not to implant. My son is now an adult, and can chose for himself. He has chosen not to be implanted. He does not see how the quality of his life could be improved by the introduction of sound. He finds his life quite satisfactory and fulfilling just as he is. Being without a CI certainly hasn't stopped him from achieving anything he has chosen to undertake.

faire_jour

I was under the impression that your son was an adult. If he is 20, that means he was 2 in 1989. The implant was still in FDA trials at the time. How old is he?

faire_jour

I think they should be defending themselves instead of relying on you to do it.

jillio

Here's a thought:

If one is truly concerned about language issues, why would one not rely on the research done by specialists in that field, with training and education related to child development, cognitive development, language acquisition, and psyco-social development of deaf children?

Why exactly, is it, that one would rely on research conducted by a specialist in surgery, without training in the above mentioned areas? The surgeon is trained in surgical techniques.

jillio

And that is exactly why you have problems interacting with the deaf community. They have already given me permission. Who are you to tell them what they should do when their wishes have already been expressed?

jillio

Yes, my son is an adult. And no, he was not 2 in 1989. Yes, it was still in trials. What is your point, exactly?

Bottesini

First attempt at electrical stimulation of the cochlea was 1790 by Volta.

He stuck two metal rods in his ears and connected them to current.

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faire_jour

I have never had a problem in the real Deaf community, just some close minded people here.

I thought the whole point of Deaf community activism was FOR the Deaf BY the Deaf. I thought they wanted an end to hearing people doing everything for (to) them.

faire_jour

I agreed that if I was in your position I would have done the same thing. Our situations are very different. Different children, different technology, different choices.

jillio

Hmmm... I seem to remember a thread a while back about the problems you had with the Deaf community.

I am doing nothing for anyone. They are relating their experience, which you continually discount and ignore, and I am supporting their experience with empirical research. It is a mutually supportive relationship, not a paternalistic one that comes out with things like "I think the deaf community should..."

Bottesini

But yet you keep coming back, and getting upset, when this can really have no impact on your life or future.

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jillio

Not at all. And you have no idea what you would have done in my shoes, as you have never been in my shoes.

faire_jour

Absolutly not. No Deaf person has ever had an unkind word to say to me or my daughter....in real life.

faire_jour

Because I like drama. I see close minded people and I don't like it, so I refuse to let it go. Personality flaw.

naisho

Ok, basically there's another misconception going on.

faire_jour, basically it's like this, toned down to the layman of layman's terms.

jillio's been around for about a little past 2 years. From the start, she had to build her novice's reputation among alldeaf and fast foward two years later, much of the community here has accepted her standpoint on issues or share the same sentiments as her. Depending on what variation of an argument we are talking about, she usually seems to have a good understanding and perception of the issue.

If jillio wasn't able to make much of her ideas and opinions about things known, she'd still be bashed upon on posts today by _our_ own members.. but you don't see that going around very often except during bullfights.

Also.. one short note. If you were intent on hoping for good, quick replies from the deaf community outside of jillio -- it will take you quite, quite some time. Not much of them like to post, much yet like to say anything about specific things. It's just like the hearing world. Read something, don't share, move on. Would you have rathered that instead..? You should be a little on the positive that she can reply and post to topics quickly instead of waiting hours or a day for someone to stand up to say something.

Bottesini

It's ok with me. House implanted three people in the 1960's.

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jillio

Okay, faire_jour. Whatever you say. It isn't worth my time to dig up your old posts.

deafskeptic

As a rule we do a lot of community activism for the Deaf By the Deaf. Shel has been of the most active ones on this board. On the other hand, we hate having hearing people who ignore what we tell them about our needs 'help' us. jillio isn't one to ignore what we tell her.

There's a reason why I"m against oralism only. Although I didn't suffer the laungage delays unlike my many of my classmates, it was quite stressful trying to understand everyone around me with out any visusal ads. Athough I can do things with this implant that I couldn't do with my hearing aid, I still need terps in some classes due to poor auitory memory and I do better when I can see every thing.

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jillio

I think people here see someone pretty close minded in return.

faire_jour

I would much rather the Deaf community speak for themselves, yes. Why should I assume that the majority agree with a lone hearing poster. I would like to see the information they have, and where they draw their conclusions from, not her's.

Babyblue

Closed minded?

So if someone doesn't agree with your views they are automatically closed minded?

What makes you think that you are not the one that is being closed minded.

Bottesini

History of Cochlear Implants

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deafskeptic

lol.

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Bottesini

History of Cochlear Implants

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