Please Help Me...

AquaBlue · 05-20-2008, 10:33 PM

In my ASL class I asked my Deaf teacher about local Deaf gatherings (so as to practice my signing and make new friends) and he recommended getting a good web cam and joining in with the Deaf online.

Now I do not know the first thing about Internet Deaf gatherings, nor which web cam to get, so please help me get started. Thanks!

Anij · 05-21-2008, 12:13 AM

have you tried Camfrog ?? There's also just hopping online with other ASL users one on one and chatting - ooVoo, viable vision, skype, etc all will allow you to view video feed via webcam ... it's important that you invest in a high res. camera if at all possible to help with the "blurr factor" ...

how are classes going ? which level are you in again ? and what text are you using ?

AquaBlue · 05-21-2008, 12:20 AM

I am going back to the basics...but...I am learning a ton thanks to my deaf teacher. I love it. ABC book mainly. Important grammar stuff to learn w/ that text. I personally think the Sighning Natuarally series is number one. It's so expensive though.

soph51 · 05-22-2008, 07:50 PM

what about looking up deaf coffee chat ?? usually held in starbucks....once or twice a month depending on where u live....if youre in the md area...then go to gallaudet university...and make friends from there....

Phillips · 05-22-2008, 07:53 PM

Soon Will downloads with oovoo and camfrog

but first fixing with my computer does frozens with webcam and person will help me

JClarke · 05-22-2008, 08:04 PM

oovoo's the firs thing you need to download

AquaBlue · 05-22-2008, 10:28 PM

Thanks gang! Now, What is the best webcam I can purchased for under $50?

JClarke · 05-22-2008, 11:04 PM

Quick Cam Pro 9000 or Logitech

AquaBlue · 05-23-2008, 12:09 PM

Okay...I will look into it. Thanks!

AquaBlue · 05-24-2008, 09:59 AM

Will these Logitech cams be good enough?

QuickCam® Communicate MP
QuickCam® Communicate STX

Jiro · 05-24-2008, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jclarke

Quick Cam Pro 9000 or Logitech

Jclarke - do you own it? If you do, couple questions - is the video "seamless" and very smooth?

AquaBlue · 05-24-2008, 10:25 PM

I found my old webcam but when I hook-it-up, the video moves in slow motion- at least that's the effect. Also, I am using a wireless connection to the Internet. Can that fact be a problem as well?

Crystal_of_ASL · 05-24-2008, 11:23 PM

If you have Facebook you can find groups and events on there. There is also the website --> Signers, American Sign Language Meetups, events, clubs and groups in your area

Cheers.

Anij · 05-25-2008, 12:50 AM

AB - for what it's worth - I recently gave my older (45$) webcam to my mum (so she can chat with me) and got a new microsoft vx-7000 (on sale 80$) the difference is well worth the money if there's any way you can afford it (eat KD for a few weeks, or something ?)

If you want a clear picture I'd recommend something that says "high definition" for video ... this means that it will meet a minimum set of criteria and will almost certainly make your investment MUCH more beneficial.

Yes - wireless can be more fussy than a hardwired CAT5E cable. If possible try running a physical line (most wireless's have RJ45 ports on the back) and see if it makes a difference - it might, it might not.

Once you're hooked up - let us know.

JClarke · 05-25-2008, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiro123

Jclarke - do you own it? If you do, couple questions - is the video "seamless" and very smooth?

I don't have it unfortunately, I was looking at buying it but unfortunately, it is currently at $149 and I believe it is the best webcam which it can be excellent for videophone calls. But I have purchased Mircosfot LifeCam VX 3000 as my VP for my TV and it is working very well. I will get that QuickCam Pro 9000 later on when the price is reasonable.

as for wireless, I am on wirreless and I used it whenever I make a VP call, I don't have a problem with it

AquaBlue · 05-25-2008, 04:46 AM

Okay Anij.

Anij · 06-07-2008, 11:04 PM

Hey AB how went the webcam purchasing ???

AquaBlue · 06-08-2008, 05:20 PM

I will let you know (pronto) once I get my new cam.

JClarke · 06-08-2008, 09:42 PM

Best to get Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000

frogsign · 06-08-2008, 10:01 PM

This is good information, as I have a cheap-o lousy cam right now which allows me no decent sign language communication at all (having V.P. at work has spoiled me, too!!!). I'm really glad I read these posts; now I know what to look for!!! Thanks!

Etoile · 06-09-2008, 11:31 AM

I use a wireless connection and Viable Vision, it works fine for me. I forget what model the webcam is, I'll have to check when I get home.

JClarke · 06-09-2008, 05:45 PM

Yeah, I use wireless connection and Viable Vision also I use Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000,

AquaBlue · 06-10-2008, 10:05 PM

Okay so it is highly likely that I will finally buy a webcam this week. So what is the final say- which cam is it? All I need is one that does not capture my movements in slow-motion; and I will spend no more than $60. Which is my ideal webcam model for me?

JClarke · 06-10-2008, 11:10 PM

Mircosoft VX 3000 to Mircosoft VX 6000 should meet your needs of your $60 but it is highly recommended if you get this logitech QuickCam Pro 9000... if not meeting ur needs, try the 5000.

ASLGAL · 06-12-2008, 10:25 AM

Glad to see you have taken the advice of members and gone 'back to basics' AquaBlue.

Best advice is still the real/human contact approach.
Nothing is as good as an actual Silent Dinner, Deaf Club, and so on...

There is nothing erong with online sign/chat - but - it lacks the intimate interaction of a real hands on event.

JMHO!

AquaBlue · 06-12-2008, 05:20 PM

I found out for certain that it is not my camera but my wireless connection. A computer geek told me that was my problem. So I am going to get a router and try it again.

frogsign · 06-28-2008, 11:44 AM

I found a Logitek Quickcam Pro 9000 for like $80 on e-Cost, and I'm seriously going to order it. I just want to know if other people have had success using it for chat. My big concern is it records at 30 frames/sec; is that enough to provide clear sign language? I also have DSL, supposed to be high-speed, but I'm technologically challenged, so what do I know. An luck with the Pro 9000?

Thanks!

RedFox · 06-28-2008, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frogsign

I found a Logitek Quickcam Pro 9000 for like $80 on e-Cost, and I'm seriously going to order it. I just want to know if other people have had success using it for chat. My big concern is it records at 30 frames/sec; is that enough to provide clear sign language? I also have DSL, supposed to be high-speed, but I'm technologically challenged, so what do I know. An luck with the Pro 9000?

Thanks!

Thirty frames per second should be enough. Movies are often made at 24 fps.

JClarke · 06-28-2008, 08:04 PM

30 fps is more than enough - the Pro 9000 is the best webcam that works just fine on any program

05-20-2008, 10:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
AquaBlue ASL Student Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,381	Please Help Me... In my ASL class I asked my Deaf teacher about local Deaf gatherings (so as to practice my signing and make new friends) and he recommended getting a good web cam and joining in with the Deaf online. Now I do not know the first thing about Internet Deaf gatherings, nor which web cam to get, so please help me get started. Thanks! __________________ Currently Reading: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski My Book List My Bipolar Page

05-21-2008, 12:20 AM	#3 (permalink)
AquaBlue ASL Student Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,381	I am going back to the basics...but...I am learning a ton thanks to my deaf teacher. I love it. ABC book mainly. Important grammar stuff to learn w/ that text. I personally think the Sighning Natuarally series is number one. It's so expensive though. __________________ Currently Reading: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski My Book List My Bipolar Page

05-22-2008, 07:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
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05-21-2008, 12:13 AM	#2 (permalink)
Anij Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 357	have you tried Camfrog ?? There's also just hopping online with other ASL users one on one and chatting - ooVoo, viable vision, skype, etc all will allow you to view video feed via webcam ... it's important that you invest in a high res. camera if at all possible to help with the "blurr factor" ... how are classes going ? which level are you in again ? and what text are you using ?

05-22-2008, 07:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
soph51 PAHOH Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 41	what about looking up deaf coffee chat ?? usually held in starbucks....once or twice a month depending on where u live....if youre in the md area...then go to gallaudet university...and make friends from there....

05-22-2008, 11:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
JClarke AD addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Down Under Posts: 14,328 Blog Entries: 4	Quick Cam Pro 9000 or Logitech __________________

05-23-2008, 12:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
AquaBlue ASL Student Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,381	Okay...I will look into it. Thanks! __________________ Currently Reading: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski My Book List My Bipolar Page

05-24-2008, 09:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
AquaBlue ASL Student Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,381	Will these Logitech cams be good enough? QuickCam® Communicate MP QuickCam® Communicate STX __________________ Currently Reading: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski My Book List My Bipolar Page

05-24-2008, 10:25 PM	#12 (permalink)
AquaBlue ASL Student Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,381	I found my old webcam but when I hook-it-up, the video moves in slow motion- at least that's the effect. Also, I am using a wireless connection to the Internet. Can that fact be a problem as well? __________________ Currently Reading: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski My Book List My Bipolar Page

05-24-2008, 11:23 PM	#13 (permalink)
Crystal_of_ASL Crystal-Anne Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 82	If you have Facebook you can find groups and events on there. There is also the website --> Signers, American Sign Language Meetups, events, clubs and groups in your area Cheers.

05-25-2008, 12:50 AM	#14 (permalink)
Anij Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 357	AB - for what it's worth - I recently gave my older (45$) webcam to my mum (so she can chat with me) and got a new microsoft vx-7000 (on sale 80$) the difference is well worth the money if there's any way you can afford it (eat KD for a few weeks, or something ?) If you want a clear picture I'd recommend something that says "high definition" for video ... this means that it will meet a minimum set of criteria and will almost certainly make your investment MUCH more beneficial. Yes - wireless can be more fussy than a hardwired CAT5E cable. If possible try running a physical line (most wireless's have RJ45 ports on the back) and see if it makes a difference - it might, it might not. Once you're hooked up - let us know.

05-25-2008, 04:46 AM	#16 (permalink)
AquaBlue ASL Student Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,381	Okay Anij. __________________ Currently Reading: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski My Book List My Bipolar Page

06-07-2008, 11:04 PM	#17 (permalink)
Anij Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 357	Hey AB how went the webcam purchasing ???

06-08-2008, 05:20 PM	#18 (permalink)
AquaBlue ASL Student Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,381	I will let you know (pronto) once I get my new cam. __________________ Currently Reading: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski My Book List My Bipolar Page

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JClarke AD addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Down Under Posts: 14,328 Blog Entries: 4	Best to get Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000 __________________

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frogsign Cert-Terp-Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pennsylvania, U.S.A. Posts: 136	This is good information, as I have a cheap-o lousy cam right now which allows me no decent sign language communication at all (having V.P. at work has spoiled me, too!!!). I'm really glad I read these posts; now I know what to look for!!! Thanks!

06-09-2008, 11:31 AM	#21 (permalink)
Etoile HOH terp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts: 926	I use a wireless connection and Viable Vision, it works fine for me. I forget what model the webcam is, I'll have to check when I get home. __________________ "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty." -Gandhi

06-09-2008, 05:45 PM	#22 (permalink)
JClarke AD addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Down Under Posts: 14,328 Blog Entries: 4	Yeah, I use wireless connection and Viable Vision also I use Logitech QuickCam Pro 9000, __________________

06-10-2008, 10:05 PM	#23 (permalink)
AquaBlue ASL Student Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,381	Okay so it is highly likely that I will finally buy a webcam this week. So what is the final say- which cam is it? All I need is one that does not capture my movements in slow-motion; and I will spend no more than $60. Which is my ideal webcam model for me? __________________ Currently Reading: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski My Book List My Bipolar Page

06-10-2008, 11:10 PM	#24 (permalink)
JClarke AD addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Down Under Posts: 14,328 Blog Entries: 4	Mircosoft VX 3000 to Mircosoft VX 6000 should meet your needs of your $60 but it is highly recommended if you get this logitech QuickCam Pro 9000... if not meeting ur needs, try the 5000. __________________

06-12-2008, 10:25 AM	#25 (permalink)
ASLGAL Here's Your Sign ;-D Join Date: May 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 171	Glad to see you have taken the advice of members and gone 'back to basics' AquaBlue. Best advice is still the real/human contact approach. Nothing is as good as an actual Silent Dinner, Deaf Club, and so on... There is nothing erong with online sign/chat - but - it lacks the intimate interaction of a real hands on event. JMHO! __________________ "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not" Thomas Jefferson

06-12-2008, 05:20 PM	#26 (permalink)
AquaBlue ASL Student Join Date: May 2003 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 1,381	I found out for certain that it is not my camera but my wireless connection. A computer geek told me that was my problem. So I am going to get a router and try it again. __________________ Currently Reading: The Story of Edgar Sawtelle by David Wroblewski My Book List My Bipolar Page

06-28-2008, 11:44 AM	#27 (permalink)
frogsign Cert-Terp-Wannabe Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Pennsylvania, U.S.A. Posts: 136	I found a Logitek Quickcam Pro 9000 for like $80 on e-Cost, and I'm seriously going to order it. I just want to know if other people have had success using it for chat. My big concern is it records at 30 frames/sec; is that enough to provide clear sign language? I also have DSL, supposed to be high-speed, but I'm technologically challenged, so what do I know. An luck with the Pro 9000? Thanks!

06-28-2008, 08:04 PM	#29 (permalink)
JClarke AD addict Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Down Under Posts: 14,328 Blog Entries: 4	30 fps is more than enough - the Pro 9000 is the best webcam that works just fine on any program __________________