Is Sign Language Frowned Upon?

Doug5 · 02-08-2008, 07:43 PM

If you cant hear what else u gonna do?

Wanda Garner · 02-08-2008, 09:38 PM

Learn sign language

It's an instinct.

Buffalo · 02-08-2008, 10:13 PM

Yeah, learn sign language and to the heck with pro-oralists.

shel90 · 02-08-2008, 11:04 PM

If someone frowned on me because I use sign language, I would tell them to go away and dont bother me.

jillio · 02-08-2008, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

If someone frowned on me because I use sign language, I would tell them to go away and dont bother me.

I know a few signs I would show them!

Doug5 · 02-08-2008, 11:25 PM

my parents had the idea that learning sign language would be as usefull as learning latin. If youre the only person that knows it, what good does it do you? they and teachers felt my hearing was good enough that learning sign wasnt necessary.

The reason for my post is the thread about parents "allowing" their child to learn sign. Like its a taboo.

I think I should learn it for fun.

shel90 · 02-08-2008, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

my parents had the idea that learning sign language would be as usefull as learning latin. If youre the only person that knows it, what good does it do you? they and teachers felt my hearing was good enough that learning sign wasnt necessary.

The reason for my post is the thread about parents "allowing" their child to learn sign. Like its a taboo.

I think I should learn it for fun.

I have seen what happens to many kids when their parents dont learn sign language to meet their communication needs. My deaf brother is one of them and it is a very sad. It is a necessity for many deaf children for language and literacy development.

Doug5 · 02-08-2008, 11:39 PM

I think if youre hearing is bad enough that it requires ha, u should learn to sign. when I was applying, for college a lot of them required or preferred that u take 2 years of a foreign language in high school.

shel90 · 02-08-2008, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

I think if youre hearing is bad enough that it requires ha, u should learn to sign. when I was applying for college a lot of them required or preferred that u take 2 years of a foreign language in high school.

That's awesome. I was born with severe profound hearing loss in both ears and sign language was forbidden for me all of my life until I learned it as an adult.

Doug5 · 02-08-2008, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I have seen what happens to many kids when their parents dont learn sign language to meet their communication needs. My deaf brother is one of them and it is a very sad. It is a necessity for many deaf children for language and literacy development.

I agree 100%. the language part of the brain needs stimulation when its developing, whether if its through sounds or sign.

Also, youd think thered be some psychological detriment to the child if the parent doesnt make an effort to effectively communicate with him. Like the child isnt important enough communicate with.

shel90 · 02-08-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

I agree 100%. the language part of the brain needs stimulation when its developing, whether if its through sounds or sign.

Also, youd think thered be some psychological detriment to the child if the parent doesnt make an effort to effectively communicate with him. Like the child isnt important enough communicate with.

I see that tooooo many times both personally and professionally on what it does to the kids. The kids dont deserve it.

Doug5 · 02-08-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

That's awesome. I was born with severe profound hearing loss in both ears and sign language was forbidden for me all of my life until I learned it as an adult.

i was never forbidden to learn sign, i was always told my hearing is better than it is.

shel90 · 02-08-2008, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

i was never forbidden to learn sign, i was always told my hearing is better than it is.

Interesting...

I was told because I can talk so well and can understand hearing people so well, that I didnt need it.

Also, others (especially teachers) have told me that I was so smart because I could talk so well and that I was too smart for sign language.

Doug5 · 02-08-2008, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I see that tooooo many times both personally and professionally on what it does to the kids. The kids dont deserve it.

what are some of the effects? Some examples,plz? inferorty complex?

shel90 · 02-09-2008, 12:00 AM

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what are some of the effects? Some examples,plz? inferorty complex?

constant frustration
language delays
loss of motivation to learn
depression
anger
indifference towards parents
loss of self-esteem

so many more.

Buffalo · 02-09-2008, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

my parents had the idea that learning sign language would be as usefull as learning latin. If youre the only person that knows it, what good does it do you? they and teachers felt my hearing was good enough that learning sign wasnt necessary.

The reason for my post is the thread about parents "allowing" their child to learn sign. Like its a taboo.

I think I should learn it for fun.

Go ahead and learn it for the fun of it. Find a deaf friend who knows ASL to teach you. I check your profile and didn't see where you are from.

Latin is very much a dead language. The only people spoke it would be those in the Vatican City. However, the English language had borrowed some words from Latin.

Doug5 · 02-09-2008, 12:05 AM

damn that sux

shel90 · 02-09-2008, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

damn that sux

Not saying that happens to all of them but the majority.

Doug5 · 02-09-2008, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo

Go ahead and learn it for the fun of it. Find a deaf friend who knows ASL to teach you. I check your profile and didn't see where you are from.

Latin is very much a dead language. The only people spoke it would be those in the Vatican City. However, the English language had borrowed some words from Latin.

I live in the chicago area and plan on moving to phoenix.

Even though latin is dead it could be a usefull tool. a lot of medical and law terminology has roots in latin. For example medical anatomy is just latin words describing body parts: cardiac=heart celiac=belly

also knowing latin number prefixes would help figure out words in the verbal portion of the SAT college entrance exam. for example tri=3

I went off on a tangent. Anyways, learning sign could be usefull in other ways besides communicating with people. you never know.

jillio · 02-09-2008, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by shel90

constant frustration
language delays
loss of motivation to learn
depression
anger
indifference towards parents
loss of self-esteem

so many more.

Good job, shel. I will add failure identity, personality disorder, attachment disorder, and risk taking behavior.

Buffalo · 02-09-2008, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

I live in the chicago area and plan on moving to phoenix.

Even though latin is dead it could be a usefull tool. a lot of medical and law terminology has roots in latin. For example medical anatomy is just latin words describing body parts: cardiac=heart celiac=belly

also knowing latin number prefixes would help figure out words in the verbal portion of the SAT college entrance exam. for example tri=3

I went off on a tangent. Anyways, learning sign could be usefull in other ways besides communicating with people. you never know.

Ahh, maybe I would get to met you one day. I am living just outside Detroit and I have been meaning to move to Phoenix, too. I got tired of snow.

More power to you for wanting to learn sign language!

jasin · 02-09-2008, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

If you cant hear what else u gonna do?

Read lips, talk, sit quiet, or use natural gestures. You could do that. those are options. i do one of those or a combination of those with people who dont know asl.

jasin · 02-09-2008, 01:57 AM

Oh, but then sometimes I get the jerks who tell me not to use sign language when I do use it, "but you have a voice" .. "dont use sign language". I'm like .. screw you i'm a deaf guy.

Doug5 · 02-09-2008, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Read lips, talk, sit quiet, or use natural gestures. You could do that. those are options. i do one of those or a combination of those with people who dont know asl.

thats not gonna go over too well in a job interview. better than nothing

Doug5 · 02-09-2008, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo

Ahh, maybe I would get to met you one day. I am living just outside Detroit and I have been meaning to move to Phoenix, too. I got tired of snow.

More power to you for wanting to learn sign language!

yeah, I hate cold weather.

jasin · 02-11-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug5

thats not gonna go over too well in a job interview. better than nothing

Why not? I can fake hearing so well that they dont even know I am deaf. My voice is 100% perfect as is my lip reading. I have done this sooooooo many times. I try not to do it anymore though because its not good. I prefer sign language now. Just saying, I have done it before and it is an option. Sometimes you gota do what you gota do!

shel90 · 02-11-2008, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Why not? I can fake hearing so well that they dont even know I am deaf. My voice is 100% perfect as is my lip reading. I have done this sooooooo many times. I try not to do it anymore though because its not good. I prefer sign language now. Just saying, I have done it before and it is an option. Sometimes you gota do what you gota do!

I agree..I have gotten several jobs from doing interviews without an terp (that was cuz I didnt know ASL at the time). When I did my first interview using ASL, I felt weird..LOL! It is all good though.

jasin · 02-13-2008, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I agree..I have gotten several jobs from doing interviews without an terp (that was cuz I didnt know ASL at the time). When I did my first interview using ASL, I felt weird..LOL! It is all good though.

Yeah, because we are like aliens to them when we are using asl. Its wrong, completly wrong.

InnocentOdion · 02-17-2008, 03:58 AM

Someone tutted at me and my wife last week for signing to each other. Ignorant pigs.

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Doug5 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 227	my parents had the idea that learning sign language would be as usefull as learning latin. If youre the only person that knows it, what good does it do you? they and teachers felt my hearing was good enough that learning sign wasnt necessary. The reason for my post is the thread about parents "allowing" their child to learn sign. Like its a taboo. I think I should learn it for fun.

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Doug5 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 227	I think if youre hearing is bad enough that it requires ha, u should learn to sign. when I was applying, for college a lot of them required or preferred that u take 2 years of a foreign language in high school.

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Doug5 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 227	damn that sux

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jasin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 779	Oh, but then sometimes I get the jerks who tell me not to use sign language when I do use it, "but you have a voice" .. "dont use sign language". I'm like .. screw you i'm a deaf guy.

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InnocentOdion HOH and learnin' sign! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: England, United Kingdom Posts: 180	Someone tutted at me and my wife last week for signing to each other. Ignorant pigs.