ASL Not Foreign Language? - Page 2

Misto · 01-23-2008, 07:22 AM

I think the better question is, foreign in what context? I think the term Foreign Language for colleges is a horrible misuse of the word since the name assumes you know English. ASL, I recognize as a language and think any college should do the same.

jillio · 01-23-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Misto

I think the better question is, foreign in what context? I think the term Foreign Language for colleges is a horrible misuse of the word since the name assumes you know English. ASL, I recognize as a language and think any college should do the same.

Foreign in the context of language learning is used to denote the language that is different from the majority.

Berry · 01-24-2008, 03:41 AM

This conversation would be moot if schools could be persuaded to change their course terminology from "foriegn languages" to "secondary languages". Then any language any person uses would be their primary language and any language they wish to learn, including English, would be a secondary language.

Liebling:-))) · 01-24-2008, 04:07 AM

I voted yes.

You know that hearing people speak different languages in the world and want to learn to speak other country's language than their own languages then attend class to learn... It does the same with deaf people...

Deaf people sign different languages in the world and want to learn to sign other country's language.

I remember back years ago, my co-worker told me that I am very lucky and have no problem to use sign languages to communicate with deaf people in the world because hearing speaking languages are different in the world. I correct her that every sign languages are different in the world like hearing speaking languages. She was like wow

when I explained her that I learn German sign language which is different as British sign language.. wow... really hard... Now I am familiar with both languages and start to learn American sign languages... I already learned Korean sign languages bit.

You will surprised when you join Ompyic for the Deaf to see they use different sign languages.

To me, learn sign languages is a foreign language because world sign languages are not same.

Angel · 01-24-2008, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

I voted yes.

You know that hearing people speak different languages in the world and want to learn to speak other country's language than their own languages then attend class to learn... It does the same with deaf people...

Deaf people sign different languages in the world and want to learn to sign other country's language.

I remember back years ago, my co-worker told me that I am very lucky and have no problem to use sign languages to communicate with deaf people in the world because hearing speaking languages are different in the world. I correct her that every sign languages are different in the world like hearing speaking languages. She was like wow when I explained her that I learn German sign language which is different as British sign language.. wow... really hard... Now I am familiar with both languages and start to learn American sign languages... I already learned Korean sign languages bit.

You will surprised when you join Ompyic for the Deaf to see they use different sign languages.

To me, learn sign languages is a foreign language because world sign languages are not same.

You brought up a good point there Liebling and I agree, I didn't know you learned several Korean sign language, that's cool.

deafskeptic · 01-24-2008, 08:27 AM

I know a few signs in BSL because I used to know a terp who learned it from her deaf blind cousin before she came to the USA.

jillio · 01-24-2008, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Berry

This conversation would be moot if schools could be persuaded to change their course terminology from "foriegn languages" to "secondary languages". Then any language any person uses would be their primary language and any language they wish to learn, including English, would be a secondary language.

Wonderful idea!

deafjellyfish · 01-24-2008, 12:47 PM

syntax and grammar and vocabulary make it a language different than what the majority is using.
i say "yes."

jasin · 02-09-2008, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DeafCapricorn

Do you think ASL should be considered a Foreign Language Course?

Does anyone know anything about this...

I've noticed that ASL is not counted as a foreign language... why is that?

Just wondering...

It is at some community colleges, its like all the other language courses i.e. jap, spanish, french, etc.. many universities now accept it for foreign language too.

You know what's funy about the languages is at most colleges they wont let the frenchies take french or the mexicans take spanish but they'll let us take asl hehe.

jasin · 02-23-2008, 05:33 PM

ASL displays the highest increase in enrollment for foreign languages at colleges/universities. According to USAToday newspaper (November 2003), there were 11,420 students taking ASL classes in 1998 and in 2002, 60,849 students took ASL classes (432.8% change). There is still an overwhelming demand for ASL classes, even at high schools across the country.

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shel90 · 02-23-2008, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

ASL displays the highest increase in enrollment for foreign languages at colleges/universities. According to USAToday newspaper (November 2003), there were 11,420 students taking ASL classes in 1998 and in 2002, 60,849 students took ASL classes (432.8% change). There is still an overwhelming demand for ASL classes, even at high schools across the country.

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Holy cow!!!! That is SOOOOO GREAT!!!!

jasin · 02-23-2008, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Holy cow!!!! That is SOOOOO GREAT!!!!

Yes it is. Awesome!!!!

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01-24-2008, 04:07 AM	#34 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Hiiiiiii it's meeeeee Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 24,839	I voted yes. You know that hearing people speak different languages in the world and want to learn to speak other country's language than their own languages then attend class to learn... It does the same with deaf people... Deaf people sign different languages in the world and want to learn to sign other country's language. I remember back years ago, my co-worker told me that I am very lucky and have no problem to use sign languages to communicate with deaf people in the world because hearing speaking languages are different in the world. I correct her that every sign languages are different in the world like hearing speaking languages. She was like wow when I explained her that I learn German sign language which is different as British sign language.. wow... really hard... Now I am familiar with both languages and start to learn American sign languages... I already learned Korean sign languages bit. You will surprised when you join Ompyic for the Deaf to see they use different sign languages. To me, learn sign languages is a foreign language because world sign languages are not same. __________________ sniffing you

01-24-2008, 08:27 AM	#36 (permalink)
deafskeptic AAACCK! I got BORGED! Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 2,278	I know a few signs in BSL because I used to know a terp who learned it from her deaf blind cousin before she came to the USA. __________________ Left ear implanted with Med-El on April 24 2007. Activated on May 9th.

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deafjellyfish elsewhere... Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: the garden state Posts: 18	syntax and grammar and vocabulary make it a language different than what the majority is using. i say "yes." __________________ i don't have a plan that is the point... me n puffy

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01-23-2008, 07:22 AM	#31 (permalink)
Misto Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 14	I think the better question is, foreign in what context? I think the term Foreign Language for colleges is a horrible misuse of the word since the name assumes you know English. ASL, I recognize as a language and think any college should do the same.

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01-24-2008, 03:41 AM	#33 (permalink)
Berry Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 131	This conversation would be moot if schools could be persuaded to change their course terminology from "foriegn languages" to "secondary languages". Then any language any person uses would be their primary language and any language they wish to learn, including English, would be a secondary language.

02-23-2008, 05:33 PM	#40 (permalink)
jasin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 779	ASL displays the highest increase in enrollment for foreign languages at colleges/universities. According to USAToday newspaper (November 2003), there were 11,420 students taking ASL classes in 1998 and in 2002, 60,849 students took ASL classes (432.8% change). There is still an overwhelming demand for ASL classes, even at high schools across the country. Links Page