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Old 04-16-2007, 02:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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PSL - People Sign Language

There's been a lot of attention to a new kind of sign language.

People Sign Language by Melissa Regas.

This has sparked a lot of hate mail and death threats from the ASL extremists who misundsrstand it's intended to replace ASL. I dont see it that way. I dont see it as a language to replace ASL . I see it as a language that could be understandable by the global deaf community like Esperanto.

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I commend Melissa Regas for her bravery going through this gauntlet from the ASL extremists.

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Old 04-16-2007, 03:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 04-16-2007, 03:58 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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There's been a lot of attention to a new kind of sign language.

People Sign Language by Melissa Regas.

This has sparked a lot of hate mail and death threats from the ASL extremists who misundsrstand it's intended to replace ASL. I dont see it that way. I dont see it as a language to replace ASL . I see it as a language that could be understandable by the global deaf community like Esperanto.

YouTube - Who is Allowed in the Deaf Community?!?!?


And my response vlog
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YouTube - People Sign Language (PSL)


I commend Melissa Regas for her bravery going through this gauntlet from the ASL extremists.

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Old 04-17-2007, 04:37 PM   #5 (permalink)
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total hogwash i ll never sign that! UGH
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Old 04-17-2007, 04:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i wont use this i rather ASL!
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:54 PM   #7 (permalink)
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If we're going to support PSL, then we should come up with a spoken language that the whole world must follow.

POCK RERT WA BEA NER!

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Old 04-17-2007, 10:41 PM   #8 (permalink)
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If we're going to support PSL, then we should come up with a spoken language that the whole world must follow.

POCK RERT WA BEA NER!

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Old 04-18-2007, 01:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 04-18-2007, 01:55 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If we're going to support PSL, then we should come up with a spoken language that the whole world must follow.

POCK RERT WA BEA NER!

*translation to English*

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Old 04-18-2007, 06:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:16 PM   #12 (permalink)
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my comment for PSL:

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"Whoever signs PSL should be shot!"
"Whoever tries to get people to sign PSL should be banned for spamming!"
"I'd hit whoever signs PSL!"
"PSL signers should be locked up!"
"Fuck you PSL signers!" *grumpy*
"Fuck you PSL signers!" *mad*
"Fuck you PSL signers!" *feeling good*
"I don't like PSL!"
"Signing PSL? Get out of my way!"
"Hi everyone! Eh? A PSL signer? Bye!"
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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WOW.. I am no expert but I never equated the position of the sign in relation to the body as having anything to do with social status. This sounds like an insecure female to me. Seriously, does anyone know the origin of the placement of signs in ASL and did they in fact imply social status?
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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*translation*

"Whoever signs PSL should be shot!"
"Whoever tries to get people to sign PSL should be banned for spamming!"
"I'd hit whoever signs PSL!"
"PSL signers should be locked up!"
"Fuck you PSL signers!" *grumpy*
"Fuck you PSL signers!" *mad*
"Fuck you PSL signers!" *feeling good*
"I don't like PSL!"
"Signing PSL? Get out of my way!"
"Hi everyone! Eh? A PSL signer? Bye!"
wanna sign a under me so in any thread you made translation for me whatever smiley I put up?
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Old 04-18-2007, 07:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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WOW.. I am no expert but I never equated the position of the sign in relation to the body as having anything to do with social status. This sounds like an insecure female to me. Seriously, does anyone know the origin of the placement of signs in ASL and did they in fact imply social status?
The male sign is supposedly for the hats that men and boys wore, whereas the female sign is supposedly for the bonnet strings women used to tie their bonnets on.
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Old 04-18-2007, 09:36 PM   #16 (permalink)
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*translation*

"Whoever signs PSL should be shot!"
"Whoever tries to get people to sign PSL should be banned for spamming!"
"I'd hit whoever signs PSL!"
"PSL signers should be locked up!"
"Fuck you PSL signers!" *grumpy*
"Fuck you PSL signers!" *mad*
"Fuck you PSL signers!" *feeling good*
"I don't like PSL!"
"Signing PSL? Get out of my way!"
"Hi everyone! Eh? A PSL signer? Bye!"
That is just tooo funny!
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:57 AM   #17 (permalink)
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The male sign is supposedly for the hats that men and boys wore, whereas the female sign is supposedly for the bonnet strings women used to tie their bonnets on.
That's what I thought. So why is this woman claiming that it's because of male domination?
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That's what I thought. So why is this woman claiming that it's because of male domination?
Ignorance? Boredom? I've seen more proficient signers than she, that's for sure.

I know that in my case I know it because when I was learning sign language, I would often ask "why is that the sign?" Sometimes there was an answer, sometimes there wasn't--but such is the case in all languages.
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:04 AM   #19 (permalink)
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She is simply a feminist, trying to dominate male by tellig them what to sign and what not to sign! RME!!!
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:25 AM   #20 (permalink)
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It's just like the women who want to change English words:

manhole = personhole (sounds nasty)

history = herstory

spokesman = spokesperson

man hours = person hours


. . . and heaven forbid a man holds open the door for one of them!
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Old 04-19-2007, 11:51 AM   #21 (permalink)
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The male sign is supposedly for the hats that men and boys wore, whereas the female sign is supposedly for the bonnet strings women used to tie their bonnets on.
Exactly. Attributing social status to the signs is something that has occured when hearing people unfamiliar with Deaf culture and etiology of individual signs try to compile dictionaries and teach that with which they have insufficient knowledge. I did a paper on jsut this subject as an undergraduate.
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Exactly. Attributing social status to the signs is something that has occured when hearing people unfamiliar with Deaf culture and etiology of individual signs try to compile dictionaries and teach that with which they have insufficient knowledge. I did a paper on jsut this subject as an undergraduate.
Interesting. So was it just the sex signs, or others that people did that with?
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It's just like the women who want to change English words:

manhole = personhole (sounds nasty)

history = herstory

spokesman = spokesperson

man hours = person hours


. . . and heaven forbid a man holds open the door for one of them!
There are already a lot of changes made through ASL to equalize roles.

I've been part of various organizations and some of them have "Chairperson" or "Sportsperson", etc.
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Old 04-19-2007, 01:08 PM   #24 (permalink)
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...I've been part of various organizations and some of them have "Chairperson" or "Sportsperson", etc.
Yeah, it's silly.
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Lol, Vampy; actually, I had a little different interpretation on the "Spam". I think is means that the deviant person should be made to eat a can of Spam three times a day for 18 months. Lol, Spam's very versatile, ya know......
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