I got an interpreter :)

jasin · 03-31-2007, 07:05 PM

The school is giving me an interpreter for my math classes, the ASL professor recommended me for one. I'm excited about it but I am scared also because this is a new experience for me. What should I expect? Will the interpreter sign to me on my level?

shel90 · 03-31-2007, 07:08 PM

I dont know about signing on your level...that is a question for interpreters to answer. However, when I first got an interpreter for college, they were oral interpreters cuz I didnt know ASL at the time. After taking ASL I and II, I requested an ASL interpreter and I was able to understand them a whole lot better than the oral terps even though at the time my ASL was still very limited. Also, it helped me with my receptive skills.

Good luck and I am sure u will be fine.

BearBeauty · 03-31-2007, 07:32 PM

From expierence.. Interpreters generally ask you what your preference in terms of ASL, PSE or SEE.

They want to know your comfort level.. how well you know ASL. And usually they will work with you and gauge your Sign abilities.

nightcrickets · 03-31-2007, 07:47 PM

how does oral terps work?

shel90 · 03-31-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by nightcrickets

how does oral terps work?

They just mouth everything the professor say without using their voice. Trust me, it didnt work at all for me..was even harder on my eyes than lipreading in a social situation. Once I started using ASL terps, classes became so much more interesting!

nightcrickets · 03-31-2007, 07:57 PM

oh, that's even harder. I rather if they were just typing everything the professor said.

shel90 · 03-31-2007, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by nightcrickets

oh, that's even harder. I rather if they were just typing everything the professor said.

That was before the CART was available...that was in 1990.

ismi · 03-31-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

They just mouth everything the professor say without using their voice. Trust me, it didnt work at all for me..was even harder on my eyes than lipreading in a social situation. Once I started using ASL terps, classes became so much more interesting!

One thing that might be useful is if the interpreter can do sign-supported oral interpreting (jasin - how well do you read lips?) and then transition towards PSE without oral, and finally to ASL.

I did the first step - sign-supported oral - when I first started learning to sign, and it was very helpful. (Now, I just use CART - I was using SSO then because the group I was working for already had that set up for some other employees, so it was easier than finding CART providers.)

BearBeauty · 04-01-2007, 01:06 AM

the main problem with any interpretting or notetaking service.. is that for the most part, small tidbits of converstation will not be included in the info. For example.. IF you're talking about WW2 and someone asks if the Nazi's are like The KKK... the note taker or the interpreter may already be signing something else and not sign this becuase they're trying to finish the sentence.

IT doesn't happen often, but it does happen at times. I speak from expierence. I've had interpreters tell me They were sorry that some questions were not interpreted. It happens no matter where you go.

Interpretrator · 04-01-2007, 02:01 AM

Let the interpreter know about your concerns. She should work with you so that you are comfortable with the language being used. Talk to her before the first class, if possible, or at least at the end of it. If she can't be flexible for you, then you should request a different terp.

I've been working with a late-deafened student who is just learning ASL now, and I definitely don't sign the same way I do with clients who are proficient. Your interpreter shouldn't either.

Also, math classes are generally not too rough because the teachers tend to write EVERYTHING on the board. I actually can't remember the last math class I interpreted where the student paid all that much attention to me.

Good luck!

Nesmuth · 04-01-2007, 04:50 PM

I got an interpretrator too.

Richard

Interpretrator · 04-01-2007, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nesmuth

I got an interpretrator too.

Richard

ideafspy · 04-04-2007, 02:26 AM

I am just out of curious.... I know it doesn't have do with your but rest of us who have an interpreter with ASL.

Do you happen laughing when no one else is laughing due making face even I remember one time. I remember one woman who was teenager in high school. The teacher was lecture about the death and how the death body gone become dry. When the interpreter make a faces how it suppose to be. She laugh and laugh but she have to keep mouth shut but couldn't hold her breathe. Anything happen as similar like yours?

I am just wonder about that...

***VamPyroX*** · 04-04-2007, 03:02 AM

It might help to talk to your interpreter a bit to see where you both stand.

I always introduce myself to the interpreters so they get an idea of my communication preferences and I get an idea of what their signing skills are like.

jillio · 04-04-2007, 02:33 PM

Just be very honest and up front with your interpreter and let them know specifically what you need. If you are having problems, discuss those problems with the terp. Ask for clarification is you need it.

jasin · 04-06-2007, 10:45 PM

Oral terps?????? Whats that?

BearBeauty · 04-06-2007, 10:53 PM

shel already answered that in one of her posts... basically it's an interpreter who mouths everything the teacher says, but the terp is looking directly at you, instead of moving all over the room like a normal teacher would.

jasin · 04-06-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ismi

One thing that might be useful is if the interpreter can do sign-supported oral interpreting (jasin - how well do you read lips?) and then transition towards PSE without oral, and finally to ASL.

I did the first step - sign-supported oral - when I first started learning to sign, and it was very helpful. (Now, I just use CART - I was using SSO then because the group I was working for already had that set up for some other employees, so it was easier than finding CART providers.)

My asl instructor says I read lips so-so, she usses the so-so sign to describe how well I can read lips. Personally, I think she is right, my abilities are only so-so not perfect or 100%.

jasin · 04-08-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BearBeauty

shel already answered that in one of her posts... basically it's an interpreter who mouths everything the teacher says, but the terp is looking directly at you, instead of moving all over the room like a normal teacher would.

I don't want that, I need someone who can actually sign. No thanks!

BearBeauty · 04-08-2007, 06:21 PM

it's not for everyone.. only those who are used to oral and not asl.

Craziebabe · 04-08-2007, 06:50 PM

you could have a interpeter use her voice but in slient and sign at the same time. that what I do for myself lipread the interpeter as watch the sign language.

HoHGuyOhio · 04-08-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jasin

My asl instructor says I read lips so-so, she usses the so-so sign to describe how well I can read lips. Personally, I think she is right, my abilities are only so-so not perfect or 100%.

My understanding is that even the BEST lipreaders understand less than 50% of words. The rest of the information comes from the deaf person just figuring out what is being said by using context and clozure skills.

shel90 · 04-08-2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HoHGuyOhio

My understanding is that even the BEST lipreaders understand less than 50% of words. The rest of the information comes from the deaf person just figuring out what is being said by using context and clozure skills.

OH now I remember reading a study about that in grad school. That really opened my eyes and make me look back to my childhood and realizing how much I really missed out on. *shudders*

BearBeauty · 04-09-2007, 02:17 PM

Actually the best lipreaders can lipread 60%, not less than 50%.

I've been lipreading since I was 5 years old.. and I was tested on lipreading and told I lipread 60% of what was said.

HoHGuyOhio · 04-09-2007, 02:46 PM

I appreciate your anecdotal evidence. When studies are conducted, they usually speak in terms of averages, mean, etc. If you were able to get 60%, that would place you above the curve (above average).

shel90 · 04-09-2007, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HoHGuyOhio

I appreciate your anecdotal evidence. When studies are conducted, they usually speak in terms of averages, mean, etc. If you were able to get 60%, that would place you above the curve (above average).

I wonder what score would I have tested? Too late now cuz I do not work hard at lipreading anymore.

Roadrunner · 04-09-2007, 05:23 PM

*off-topic*

I recalled the time I took such a test, whereas to see what percentage I could muster by lip-reading without sound..I was able to get 88%, while with sound, I was able to get 93%.

~RR

Roadrunner · 04-09-2007, 05:25 PM

Btw jasin, congrats on getting an interpreter and hope it all goes nice and smooth for you!

~RR

shel90 · 04-09-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

*off-topic*

I recalled the time I took such a test, whereas to see what percentage I could muster by lip-reading without sound..I was able to get 88%, while with sound, I was able to get 93%.

~RR

Good job!

I am gonna question the validity of tests like these.. Was it an one time thing? What about in different circumstances such as in group of people chatting away? Was the test condoned in a controlled environment? If so, then it is most likely not valid.

Roadrunner · 04-09-2007, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

Good job!

I am gonna question the validity of tests like these.. Was it an one time thing? What about in different circumstances such as in group of people chatting away? Was the test condoned in a controlled environment? If so, then it is most likely not valid.

Thank you!

Validity?

It's was done long ago...hence, olddddd.

However, I can see the point you're giving here, of course, it would make a bigger difference and impact in a noisy and crowded environment. One would need plenty of aspirins for all those head-spins!

Of course, the test was done in a controlled environment on school property. As for it being valid, I consider it valid enough, why? Gave me all the more confidence...therefore, I went about my merrily about ways!

~RR

03-31-2007, 07:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
jasin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 779	I got an interpreter :) The school is giving me an interpreter for my math classes, the ASL professor recommended me for one. I'm excited about it but I am scared also because this is a new experience for me. What should I expect? Will the interpreter sign to me on my level?

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shel90 Sun Whorshipper Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A Desert Rat that has found herself in Maryland Posts: 16,155 Blog Entries: 1	I dont know about signing on your level...that is a question for interpreters to answer. However, when I first got an interpreter for college, they were oral interpreters cuz I didnt know ASL at the time. After taking ASL I and II, I requested an ASL interpreter and I was able to understand them a whole lot better than the oral terps even though at the time my ASL was still very limited. Also, it helped me with my receptive skills. Good luck and I am sure u will be fine. __________________ ~Shel~ "A child educated only at school is an uneducated child." -George Santayana

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BearBeauty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 818	From expierence.. Interpreters generally ask you what your preference in terms of ASL, PSE or SEE. They want to know your comfort level.. how well you know ASL. And usually they will work with you and gauge your Sign abilities.

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nightcrickets Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 225	how does oral terps work?

03-31-2007, 07:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
nightcrickets Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 225	oh, that's even harder. I rather if they were just typing everything the professor said.

04-01-2007, 01:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
BearBeauty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 818	the main problem with any interpretting or notetaking service.. is that for the most part, small tidbits of converstation will not be included in the info. For example.. IF you're talking about WW2 and someone asks if the Nazi's are like The KKK... the note taker or the interpreter may already be signing something else and not sign this becuase they're trying to finish the sentence. IT doesn't happen often, but it does happen at times. I speak from expierence. I've had interpreters tell me They were sorry that some questions were not interpreted. It happens no matter where you go.

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Interpretrator Crime fighter Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,425	Let the interpreter know about your concerns. She should work with you so that you are comfortable with the language being used. Talk to her before the first class, if possible, or at least at the end of it. If she can't be flexible for you, then you should request a different terp. I've been working with a late-deafened student who is just learning ASL now, and I definitely don't sign the same way I do with clients who are proficient. Your interpreter shouldn't either. Also, math classes are generally not too rough because the teachers tend to write EVERYTHING on the board. I actually can't remember the last math class I interpreted where the student paid all that much attention to me. Good luck!

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Nesmuth Banned Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: The Southland of California Posts: 3,199	I got an interpretrator too. Richard

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jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,197	Just be very honest and up front with your interpreter and let them know specifically what you need. If you are having problems, discuss those problems with the terp. Ask for clarification is you need it.

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jasin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 779	Oral terps?????? Whats that?

04-06-2007, 10:53 PM	#17 (permalink)
BearBeauty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 818	shel already answered that in one of her posts... basically it's an interpreter who mouths everything the teacher says, but the terp is looking directly at you, instead of moving all over the room like a normal teacher would.

04-08-2007, 06:21 PM	#20 (permalink)
BearBeauty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 818	it's not for everyone.. only those who are used to oral and not asl.

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Craziebabe Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 15	you could have a interpeter use her voice but in slient and sign at the same time. that what I do for myself lipread the interpeter as watch the sign language.

04-09-2007, 02:17 PM	#24 (permalink)
BearBeauty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 818	Actually the best lipreaders can lipread 60%, not less than 50%. I've been lipreading since I was 5 years old.. and I was tested on lipreading and told I lipread 60% of what was said.

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HoHGuyOhio Certified Interpreter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 178	I appreciate your anecdotal evidence. When studies are conducted, they usually speak in terms of averages, mean, etc. If you were able to get 60%, that would place you above the curve (above average).

04-09-2007, 05:23 PM	#27 (permalink)
Roadrunner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,090	off-topic I recalled the time I took such a test, whereas to see what percentage I could muster by lip-reading without sound..I was able to get 88%, while with sound, I was able to get 93%. ~RR

04-09-2007, 05:25 PM	#28 (permalink)
Roadrunner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,090	Btw jasin, congrats on getting an interpreter and hope it all goes nice and smooth for you! ~RR