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shel90 · 04-09-2007, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

Thank you!

Validity?

It's was done long ago...hence, olddddd.

However, I can see the point you're giving here, of course, it would make a bigger difference and impact in a noisy and crowded environment. One would need plenty of aspirins for all those head-spins!

Of course, the test was done in a controlled environment on school property. As for it being valid, I consider it valid enough, why? Gave me all the more confidence...therefore, I went about my merrily about ways!

~RR

I am just supporting HOHGuyOhio's claims that he read somewhere that lipreaders get 50% of what is being said. So, I think whatever he read was a longitude study...

Roadrunner · 04-09-2007, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shel90

I am just supporting HOHGuyOhio's claims that he read somewhere that lipreaders get 50% of what is being said. So, I think whatever he read was a longitude study...

No problem--

As for me, I experienced it--

~RR

ismi · 04-09-2007, 06:54 PM

We're not really defining "lip reading". Are context and clozure "acceptable", or do we need to somehow eliminate those? What about facial cues in terms of emotion and so on? Perhaps that 50% is phonemic (graphemic? Visemic? Whatever the equivalent would be.) and the rest is based on morphology, pragmatics, semantics, syntax, and dumb luck.

jillio · 04-09-2007, 08:26 PM

The test would be valid only when applied to the same controlled environment. It would not be generalizable to any other situation. So therefore, you're right, shel. Extremely low validity.

GILLYOB · 04-12-2007, 01:20 PM

I Remmy..while I Was In School, They Are Oral Communication, No Sign Languages... We Sit And Watch Teacher's Lipread...but Endup, Make Me Fell Sleep....we Mostly Dont Like To Watch Lipread Steady..for Hours In Class! Now I Am Glad They Requested To Have Total Communication At My School.
Some Of You Get Used With Lipread, Thats Fine..but Might Miss Alot What Teacher Said. When She/he Turn Around, Do The Blackboard And Talking..thats More Difficult For Us.
Asl Interpreters Or Deaf Teachers Really Helped Us Learn Fast.
Hope You Like Asl Interpreters. :-)

jasin · 04-13-2007, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BearBeauty

it's not for everyone.. only those who are used to oral and not asl.

I understand asl better then I do written and spoken English. My asl instructor says I am a natural signer.

jasin · 04-13-2007, 11:02 PM

Hey guys, and gals too, what about reading lips from someone who has a strange foreign accent? Would that make your lip reading a bit more inaccurate?

shel90 · 04-14-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Hey guys, and gals too, what about reading lips from someone who has a strange foreign accent? Would that make your lip reading a bit more inaccurate?

OOOH..that happens to me a lot especially here in DC where we have many people with different accents. I just try my best to understand them as much as I can.

BearBeauty · 04-15-2007, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jasin

Hey guys, and gals too, what about reading lips from someone who has a strange foreign accent? Would that make your lip reading a bit more inaccurate?

This is actually a good question.. For me, I've lived with a few different people who lived in other countries, and i've had minor trouble understanding them. Mostly becuase they didn't understand how to communicate with me. But generally I understood most of what they said.

Remember.. accents in terms of their voice don't matter. because we're looking at thier face for the cues. So for me, It's easy to understand people of a foreign background, as long as they understand how to communicate with me

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04-09-2007, 06:54 PM	#33 (permalink)
ismi Implanted 7/18/07 Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 749	We're not really defining "lip reading". Are context and clozure "acceptable", or do we need to somehow eliminate those? What about facial cues in terms of emotion and so on? Perhaps that 50% is phonemic (graphemic? Visemic? Whatever the equivalent would be.) and the rest is based on morphology, pragmatics, semantics, syntax, and dumb luck.

04-09-2007, 08:26 PM	#34 (permalink)
jillio Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 21,197	The test would be valid only when applied to the same controlled environment. It would not be generalizable to any other situation. So therefore, you're right, shel. Extremely low validity.

04-12-2007, 01:20 PM	#35 (permalink)
GILLYOB Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 42	I Remmy..while I Was In School, They Are Oral Communication, No Sign Languages... We Sit And Watch Teacher's Lipread...but Endup, Make Me Fell Sleep....we Mostly Dont Like To Watch Lipread Steady..for Hours In Class! Now I Am Glad They Requested To Have Total Communication At My School. Some Of You Get Used With Lipread, Thats Fine..but Might Miss Alot What Teacher Said. When She/he Turn Around, Do The Blackboard And Talking..thats More Difficult For Us. Asl Interpreters Or Deaf Teachers Really Helped Us Learn Fast. Hope You Like Asl Interpreters. :-)

04-13-2007, 11:02 PM	#37 (permalink)
jasin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 779	Hey guys, and gals too, what about reading lips from someone who has a strange foreign accent? Would that make your lip reading a bit more inaccurate?