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Old 03-27-2007, 05:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hi again does sign language take lot to learn?
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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it takes time and practice.. but it can be learned.
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:56 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I grew up oral, then around like 21, learned sign language, then about 25, I learned ASL. As of now, I mostly use ASL. Takes time to learn and practice. You can do it.
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Old 03-27-2007, 06:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hi heyyeahhhhhhh,

How bad do you want to use sign language?
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Old 03-27-2007, 06:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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well im not in a rush as im 27 female. im just interesting to learn sign language and how do i start off? i can speak and wear hearing aids in each ears. not very good catching people of what they said as some voice are low and fast and some has accent voice or even have beards
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Old 03-27-2007, 06:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Are you aware of body gesture that can be useful to communicate?
I recommend you to take sign language at college.
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Old 03-27-2007, 06:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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cant go to college as i have two year olds son. anything else i could try?
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Old 03-27-2007, 06:25 PM   #8 (permalink)
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You can go to the book store and buy the books with sign language, or meet deaf mothers that would be awesome.
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Old 03-27-2007, 06:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
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ok thank you i look some book then. now i never meet deaf mum sound like im only one
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Old 03-27-2007, 07:12 PM   #10 (permalink)
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If I were you, I would start of by going to my local library and checking out Signing Time DVD or any sign language dvds they have. start there and work my way to more advanced videos.. Books are ok to start, but it's better to have a visual reference because it helps you learn better and you can see it in action. Also.. find a deaf mom group so you can have someone to practice with.
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Old 03-27-2007, 07:52 PM   #11 (permalink)
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as with any language, sign takes practice, and determination. Believe in yourself, and learn at a speed you are comfortable with, and you'll do it!
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Old 03-27-2007, 08:25 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I think heyyeah is British. If she's still living in England, she should learn British sign language. I don't think Signing Time will help her. She needs British resources.

Heyyeah, am I correct?
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Sure, it could be learned quickly... just depends on how you learn.

It does help to apply what you learned with someone else instead of alone.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
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It's a false belief that sign language is easier to learn than any other language... of course it depends on how well you pick things up and how hard you study, but it IS a language and it takes TIME and PRACTICE PRACTICE PRACTICE... I've found (IMO) that it's easier for artistically inclined people to learn sign language fast being as the right half of their brain (the creative side) is already actively in use, and (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe that sign language uses the visual (or artistic) side of the brain, making it easier for those people.
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:39 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I believe that sign language uses the visual (or artistic) side of the brain, making it easier for those people.
Sign language activates the same part of the brain as does spoken language. (Check Klima and Bellugi's fascinating studies on this topic.) Artistic tendency has nothing to do neurologically with learning the language but it might have a bearing on how well a signer is able to adapt to ASL storytelling.
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Sign language activates the same part of the brain as does spoken language. (Check Klima and Bellugi's fascinating studies on this topic.) Artistic tendency has nothing to do neurologically with learning the language but it might have a bearing on how well a signer is able to adapt to ASL storytelling.
Or maybe how well one does at receiving? Being as the mind of such a person may work, on the visual end of the scale, better than most people? Just a thought, I don't really know what I'm talking about
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No, sign language is impossible to learn and understand.
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Old 04-05-2007, 09:59 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Or maybe how well one does at receiving? Being as the mind of such a person may work, on the visual end of the scale, better than most people? Just a thought, I don't really know what I'm talking about
Nope--receptive and expressive language is processed int he auditory portion of the brain whether in spoken form or visual form. Some enlightened neurologists and cognitive spych researchers are beginning to rename this area of the brain as the language center rather than the auditory center. Artistic talent is more of an ability to perceive and portray spatial relationships and is related to an eye hand coordination as well as perceptual difference.
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Old 04-05-2007, 10:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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No, sign language is impossible to learn and understand.
yes, you're right. Even pretty girls who love to learn ASL cannot understand whole thing until 1 or 2 years and finally get wonderful communicate and end in bed.
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Artistic talent is more of an ability to perceive and portray spatial relationships and is related to an eye hand coordination as well as perceptual difference.
There was a very interesting study by Bellugi or Bellugi and Klima which looked at deaf stroke victims (might have included native ASL users who weren't deaf, I can't remember now) who had had their motor functions damaged in some way by their stroke. They found that even though the stroke patients no longer had normal motor function, they were able to SIGN with no noticeable changes, even though some of the movements in ASL were similar to the motions that the patients could no longer perform in a non-linguistic context.

I'm probably garbling the information somewhat, but it was a fascinating and groundbreaking study that showed very convincingly that ASL is not a motor skill but truly a language.
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Old 04-05-2007, 03:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
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^ I sit corrected then! This is a very interesting subject though... can you point me in the direction of some more material on it?
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There was a very interesting study by Bellugi or Bellugi and Klima which looked at deaf stroke victims (might have included native ASL users who weren't deaf, I can't remember now) who had had their motor functions damaged in some way by their stroke. They found that even though the stroke patients no longer had normal motor function, they were able to SIGN with no noticeable changes, even though some of the movements in ASL were similar to the motions that the patients could no longer perform in a non-linguistic context.

I'm probably garbling the information somewhat, but it was a fascinating and groundbreaking study that showed very convincingly that ASL is not a motor skill but truly a language.
Thanks for the info! I've followed Bellugi's research, but don't remember that study. I'll look for it.
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Old 04-05-2007, 07:24 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Start with the book, Seeing Voices by Oliver Saks. It covers the neurological base, but in a very interesting way. Then you can move onto some of the dryer cognitive psych research.
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I started out by taking ASL classes at around 26 years old...my ASL instructor said the best way to learn the language is to immerse oneself in it so I tried socializing with deaf people but was snubbed due to growing up oral. I still didnt give up...kept going until I reached level 4 ASL. Still wasnt proficient after 2 years and I went to Gallaudet University..from there, my fluency in ASL improved. I think it took me around 5 years to become fluent in ASL. The strange thing is my receptive skills in ASL are a whole lot better than my expressive skills. I still struggle to sign fluenty using classifiers but that is slowly improving cuz I have to use them a lot for teaching 1st graders.

I think the length of time to learn sign language varies with each individual and their situations.

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Old 04-11-2007, 08:49 AM   #28 (permalink)
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In general, I think some people learn new languages more easily than others, regardless of whether the particular language is signed or spoken. People who struggled with spoken foreign languages is school, will not find that learning a sign language is any easier, regardless of their artistic abilities.
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