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Old 09-20-2006, 11:42 PM   #31 (permalink)
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For the grammar book, does it "assume" that the reader has a PhD in English? I have to admit, when it come to some of the terminolgy, well actually MOST of the terminology, I have no clue. English was my worst subject. I got A's in mathematics and science but generally my grades bounced off the floor in English. LOL

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No, you don't need a PhD in English to understand the ASL grammar book.

You do need to know basic grammatical terms and usage, such as subject and direct object, verb tenses, pronouns, singular and plural, noun and verb, adjective and adverb.

ASL grammar uses additional terms such as classifiers, directional verbs, and placement.

The book will explain each term and how to use it.
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Old 09-21-2006, 07:32 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I've got the Grammar book. Next time we meet I'll bring it along.
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Old 09-21-2006, 09:00 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Thanks for the comments, Reba. I'll admit though, I can remember the term "past participle" but I know I would not be able to identify one even if it were highlighted in yellow. I might even have one in the post and not know it. LOL

dkf747, thanks for the offer.

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Old 09-21-2006, 11:10 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Thanks for the comments, Reba. I'll admit though, I can remember the term "past participle" but I know I would not be able to identify one even if it were highlighted in yellow. I might even have one in the post and not know it. LOL

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It does not matter if you had PHD in English... learning ASL.. is best if you socialize with deafies..... it has no english.... you have to understand better when you socialize with deaifes all the times.. you will learn...
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Old 09-21-2006, 12:46 PM   #35 (permalink)
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...you have to understand better when you socialize with deaifes all the times.. you will learn...
I hear you on that (no pun intended). Also, I like your biographical note. I grew up in Richmond and went to school in Blacksburg, if you can remember your days back east (you old fart). LOL

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Old 09-21-2006, 02:27 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I hear you on that (no pun intended). Also, I like your biographical note. I grew up in Richmond and went to school in Blacksburg, if you can remember your days back east (you old fart). LOL

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Old 09-21-2006, 04:32 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I saw a book in Books-A-Million today, something like "Teach Yourself ASL in 24 hours". Yeah, right!
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Old 09-21-2006, 06:56 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I saw a book in Books-A-Million today, something like "Teach Yourself ASL in 24 hours". Yeah, right!
That series ("Teach Yourself Foo in 24 Hours") consists of 24 1-hour lessons. A bit silly/gimmicky, but the description on the book makes that clear. I'm not familiar with that book, but the other books in the series are about IT topics, and they tend to be well written.
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That series ("Teach Yourself Foo in 24 Hours") consists of 24 1-hour lessons. A bit silly/gimmicky, but the description on the book makes that clear. I'm not familiar with that book, but the other books in the series are about IT topics, and they tend to be well written.
try lifeprint.com

I ordered the CD for about $5 including shipping.

I have a book, as required from a course locally but I don't really like it.
Lifeprint.com is GREAT! This combined with ASLPRO.COM and practicing in the schools is good.
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try lifeprint.com

I ordered the CD for about $5 including shipping.

I have a book, as required from a course locally but I don't really like it.
Lifeprint.com is GREAT! This combined with ASLPRO.COM and practicing in the schools is good.
I'm in a class now, and using Signing Naturally - I just wanted to point out that "in 24 hours" was not that outrageous a claim.
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I'm in a class now, and using Signing Naturally - I just wanted to point out that "in 24 hours" was not that outrageous a claim.
is it teaching you anything? Is it REALLY worth your $$$??

I'm always looking for other resources, but I think I'm going to stick with my $5 CD and my FREE classes once a week at one of our local schools.
Later I may very well seek other resources.
I think, like any language, we'll get to a certain level and then hit a plateau.

This is common in a lot of learning situations
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Old 12-17-2006, 11:58 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Considering you're "housebound" as you said, I recommend a website that the creator established for folks who can't get to a classroom. He's based in Sacramento and will answer questions through email. His site is American Sign Language (ASL) and it has areas on it that will give you fingerspelling practice. He also explains about Deaf Culture and ASL sentence structure. I highly recommend it.:-)
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Considering you're "housebound" as you said, I recommend a website that the creator established for folks who can't get to a classroom. He's based in Sacramento and will answer questions through email. His site is American Sign Language (ASL) and it has areas on it that will give you fingerspelling practice. He also explains about Deaf Culture and ASL sentence structure. I highly recommend it.:-)
Hi Brenda,

Thanks for the comments. As far as I can tell, that appears to be Dr. William Vicars' website for LifePrint dot com. From your link, I'm getting a temporary maintenance page. I think we were discussing his website back on page 1 of this thread. As you stated, it is very good indeed.

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["Temporary page for maintenance. The regular pages will be back up soon.;]

For now, please instead visit Lifeprint.com or American Sign Language (ASL)Fingerspelling

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American Sign Language:

"ASL is a visual gestural language." That means it is a language that is expressed through the hands and face and is perceived through the eyes. It isn't just waving your hands in the air. If you furrow your eyebrows, tilt your head, glance in a certain direction, twist your body a certain way, puff your cheek, or any number of other "inflections" --you are adding or changing meaning in ASL. A "visual gestural" (eye/hand) language carries just as much information as an oral/aural (mouth/ear) language.

Is American Sign Language limited to just the United States and Canada? No. ASL is also used in varying degrees in the Philippines, Ghana, Nigeria, Chad, Burkina Faso, Gabon, Zaire, Central African Republic, Cote d'Ivoire, Mauritania, Kenya, Madagascar, Benin, Togo, Zimbabwe, Singapore, Hong Kong.

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Old 12-19-2006, 11:36 PM   #44 (permalink)
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ASL in 24 hours?

HA!!

Marketing gimmick...!
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Old 12-19-2006, 11:39 PM   #45 (permalink)
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For me, if I want to get involved in Deaf Community, I'd have to travel by bus. But I do learn from LessonTutor and ASLPro.com. Plus, take a look in my signature.
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GraysonPeddie,

Thanks for pointing out this link:

http://daphne.palomar.edu/kstruxness...les%201-06.pdf

I was not aware of that one but now have the PDF saved for future reference.

Thanks again!

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Old 12-21-2006, 07:04 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Personally, I think the ABC book is really good for learning sign, but that's probably because my class uses it. But, it's still pretty good because it goes through "lessons" and such so it seems easy.
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I also agree. My first ASL classes used that book and it's pretty straight forward.

Another thing that helped is recently I got a set of Sign Enhancers Beginning ASL Videocourse videos recently from eBay and those has helped out a lot too, although a few signs taught on them have changed since the videos were made in the early 90s.

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Old 01-03-2007, 01:28 AM   #49 (permalink)
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I am really glad I found this forum and that you all have accepted me into your midst. Thanks!

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Likewise, Dave! I just joined this forum yesterday, and already I've found so many wonderful, informative things. Thank you so much for your suggestion and opinions about which books to read. My main intention today was to look for people's opinions on what books are best. Let me know how things are going and coming along...continue to keep us posted!
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Considering you're "housebound" as you said, I recommend a website that the creator established for folks who can't get to a classroom. He's based in Sacramento and will answer questions through email. His site is American Sign Language (ASL) and it has areas on it that will give you fingerspelling practice. He also explains about Deaf Culture and ASL sentence structure. I highly recommend it.:-)
Thanks, Brenda...I was looking for an alternative route to the classroom setting. Sounds like this may be worth a try!
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Old 01-03-2007, 11:23 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Personally, I think the ABC book is really good for learning sign, but that's probably because my class uses it. But, it's still pretty good because it goes through "lessons" and such so it seems easy.
Lilium,

Do you know the actual title of this book? (My sign language instructor used this book with me when I learned sign.) I referred this book to another ADer, but couldn't remember the exact title. I also tried doing an Internet search, but came up empty.
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