Best way to learn ASL? Hints, Ideas, Opinions? - Page 2

eliotj · 09-04-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by robbielyn

As you you know, with ASL grammar and inflection are shown in facial expressions like tilt slightly forward and raised eyebrows and hold last sign for asking yes or no questions so "can" not necessary. Raised eyebrows is the equivalent of the inflection found in speech to show you are asking a question and not a statement. Nodding your head isn't necessary to ask a question. Just look at your audience lean slightlyforward raise you eyebrows hold sign for understand. Look at each student. They will shake their head yes if they do.

That's what I would normally sign.

I know these things, for example if I were to ask someone if they drove here I would have signed "you drive here" with the raised eyebrows (inflections)

If I wanted to know if someone could drive I would just sign "you drive" with inflections. In english this would be "can you drive" or "do you drive"

I'll have many more questions as time goes on. Thanks

BearBeauty · 09-08-2006, 10:47 AM

My personal opinion..

Examine how you learn things, like if you can pick things up from reading a book or watching what's going on around you. Some people do well with books whereas others are more into looking around.
My boyfriend is learning sign language and he's a very visual learner.. so I buy him cds and dvds that can help him learn the signs, Hey.. I'm a horrible teacher.

I also make him use these signs with me so he can understand how deaf people in general use sign language.. I'm sad to say most of my sign language is English, Not ASL. So he's learning to sign that way as well.

robbielyn · 09-08-2006, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BearBeauty

My personal opinion..

Examine how you learn things, like if you can pick things up from reading a book or watching what's going on around you. Some people do well with books whereas others are more into looking around.
My boyfriend is learning sign language and he's a very visual learner.. so I buy him cds and dvds that can help him learn the signs, Hey.. I'm a horrible teacher.

I also make him use these signs with me so he can understand how deaf people in general use sign language.. I'm sad to say most of my sign language is English, Not ASL. So he's learning to sign that way as well.

One can learn signed english from a book but not ASL. That must be learned by interactive with the deaf or from dvd's. ASL involves more than learning vocabulary, it's a three dimensional language.

BearBeauty · 09-11-2006, 10:20 AM

Robbieyn..(sorry if i spelled that wrong)

I know that. the problem with learning asl is that I don't use it much. I'm more into English or PSL.. So he is learning the way I sign, not the true ASL. Remember I grew up learning english.. so my sign language is more English than ASL. even around deaf friends i use more english and I talk while signing.. I guess so hearing people can understand me more. It's just the way I learned.

If i could sign more ASL, i would.. and I have tried but old habits are hard to break.

robbielyn · 09-13-2006, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BearBeauty

Robbieyn..(sorry if i spelled that wrong)

I know that. the problem with learning asl is that I don't use it much. I'm more into English or PSL.. So he is learning the way I sign, not the true ASL. Remember I grew up learning english.. so my sign language is more English than ASL. even around deaf friends i use more english and I talk while signing.. I guess so hearing people can understand me more. It's just the way I learned.

If i could sign more ASL, i would.. and I have tried but old habits are hard to break.

Sorry if I offended you. I am looking at my response to your last comment, and today can't figure out why I said that to you. I guess I know some people that use the term ASL to incorporate all signing. And I guess that is a pet peeve of mine. It's great that you are teaching him sign language and I wish you the best with that. Robbielyn

BearBeauty · 09-13-2006, 08:52 PM

you didn't offend me.. It's a pet peeve of mine as well. I have seen some hearing people ask me if ASL, SEE, and PSL are all the same language.. I can't count the number of times I've had to explain the differences in all 3 languages.. it drives ME nuts!

eliotj · 09-19-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by robbielyn

One can learn signed english from a book but not ASL. That must be learned by interactive with the deaf or from dvd's. ASL involves more than learning vocabulary, it's a three dimensional language.

I'm of the opinion that a book can give you basics, history and a certain level of understanding - but to actually communicate effectively - this (IMHO) requires that you interact with others in that language.

eliotj · 09-19-2006, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BearBeauty

you didn't offend me.. It's a pet peeve of mine as well. I have seen some hearing people ask me if ASL, SEE, and PSL are all the same language.. I can't count the number of times I've had to explain the differences in all 3 languages.. it drives ME nuts!

bare with them. Understanding language isn't for everyone.
People see things and ask questions. With the internet, these questions can be easily answered.

When I first started learning ASL, I first did some homework. I read the history, grammar and other things. I then was led to SEE and PSE etc.

I'm bilingual, and working on being trilingual. The third being ASL.
In a couple of years I'll become a teacher, teach math and hopfully be able to pass the level 1 interpreters exam for my state.
No easy task, but I understand language so I have an advantage.

gnulinuxman · 09-20-2006, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruliya

The audism topic was fascinating. What's more surprising for me there is such thing as deaf against deaf. Well, I shouldn't be surprised about it given the fact that discrimination is a common problem among various races, ages and cultures.

Well, it's like a foreigner walking up to a hearing American and begging them to teach English. It's just weird.

deafskeptic · 09-20-2006, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BearBeauty

you didn't offend me.. It's a pet peeve of mine as well. I have seen some hearing people ask me if ASL, SEE, and PSL are all the same language.. I can't count the number of times I've had to explain the differences in all 3 languages.. it drives ME nuts!

Ha ha! I know how you feel.

I even remember aguring with one linguist who simply could not understand that ASL and BSL is *NOT* the same. ARRGH! some linguist.

Casperman · 09-20-2006, 11:25 AM

my best advice is learn signs from a deaf person or hearing person that know signs and socialzie with deaf people as much as ya can ya will pick it up in no time.. and accept critizes, changes, etc... Joy of Signing.. i did look at it and some signs are wrong... ya can find any books or videos by Terrance O Rourke or Lou Fant, JR they are almost perfect on signs... i have high respect for them...
ciao for now
Casper

SxyPorkie · 09-20-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Casperman

my best advice is learn signs from a deaf person or hearing person that know signs and socialzie with deaf people as much as ya can ya will pick it up in no time.. and accept critizes, changes, etc... Joy of Signing.. i did look at it and some signs are wrong... ya can find any books or videos by Terrance O Rourke or Lou Fant, JR they are almost perfect on signs... i have high respect for them...
ciao for now
Casper

Yeah I agree with you about Lou Fant... I met him in person once long time ago.. he was cool.. his parents were deaf... He believed in ASL fully.. not in SEE...

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09-08-2006, 10:47 AM	#32 (permalink)
BearBeauty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 818	My personal opinion.. Examine how you learn things, like if you can pick things up from reading a book or watching what's going on around you. Some people do well with books whereas others are more into looking around. My boyfriend is learning sign language and he's a very visual learner.. so I buy him cds and dvds that can help him learn the signs, Hey.. I'm a horrible teacher. I also make him use these signs with me so he can understand how deaf people in general use sign language.. I'm sad to say most of my sign language is English, Not ASL. So he's learning to sign that way as well.

09-11-2006, 10:20 AM	#34 (permalink)
BearBeauty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 818	Robbieyn..(sorry if i spelled that wrong) I know that. the problem with learning asl is that I don't use it much. I'm more into English or PSL.. So he is learning the way I sign, not the true ASL. Remember I grew up learning english.. so my sign language is more English than ASL. even around deaf friends i use more english and I talk while signing.. I guess so hearing people can understand me more. It's just the way I learned. If i could sign more ASL, i would.. and I have tried but old habits are hard to break.

09-13-2006, 08:52 PM	#36 (permalink)
BearBeauty Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 818	you didn't offend me.. It's a pet peeve of mine as well. I have seen some hearing people ask me if ASL, SEE, and PSL are all the same language.. I can't count the number of times I've had to explain the differences in all 3 languages.. it drives ME nuts!

09-20-2006, 11:25 AM	#41 (permalink)
Casperman Proud Dada of an Autistic Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: state of fast horses, fast ladies and hillbilly drunkards Posts: 403	my best advice is learn signs from a deaf person or hearing person that know signs and socialzie with deaf people as much as ya can ya will pick it up in no time.. and accept critizes, changes, etc... Joy of Signing.. i did look at it and some signs are wrong... ya can find any books or videos by Terrance O Rourke or Lou Fant, JR they are almost perfect on signs... i have high respect for them... ciao for now Casper