Lack of privacy.. - Page 2

Demise · 06-24-2006, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Audiofuzzy

How do you sign-ers copy with obvious lack of privacy when conversing in public?
I was sitting at the train when two deaf men got on the train and started talking.
I couldn't help but thought If I knew ASL then I surely would understand every thing they said.

So how do you protect yourself from, say, accidently spilling too much that may even land you in hot water?

in other words how do you secure your privacy?

Fuzzy

Yeah, be aware. Go someplace where there are no people around. I'd use one hand sign language with my friends and family that no one will ever be able to read us. Of course I'd have to limit myself and my hands in small motions. That way I'd still have my private conversation with my family.

shel90 · 02-03-2007, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by farmerjoe

That's right, hearing people blurt out things in public too, or so my girlfriend tells me.

I don't worry about privecy when I'm out in public. and speaking of privecy I have a story with a weird twist.

I was at the rehersal dinner for my brother's wedding. It was kind of noisy and everybody was just talkinng back and forth. My girlfriend (she's hearing) and I start signing so that we can have a usefull conversation.
My entire extended family is hearing, my (future) sister-in-law's family is hering. I grew up hearing so the whole being nearly deaf and using ASL is new to them, I guess.

Anyway, the next day, my dad scolded me for signing. He said that it makes the rest of the family uncomfortable because they think we're talking about them.

All I could think was wht the F@#$^!??!

U are not the only one that happened to. I was at my friend's house (we grew up together and we were both orally deaf until we finally learned ASL) for the first time since I learned ASL. I have known her mom since I was a year old. Anyways, we were all sitting at the dinner table and my friend's brother who is deaf was so fascinated that I finally learned ASL and wanted to chat with me. So, the 3 of us were signing away catching up on news when all of sudden my friend's mom turned around to her other son who is hearing and hid her mouth to talk to him. All 3 of us were like huh? She said that we were all being rude by signing without our voices on cuz it left the others out. I was

cuz when they talk among themselves, the 3 of us CANT understand what they are saying so fair is fair, right? I got up and left cuz I wasnt putting up with that insensitivity. I told my friend sorry for my rudeness but I was sooo pissed. Oh boy...

shel90 · 02-03-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ghsh1996

One time my husband and I went to resturant. We chatted with sign language. My husband saw the lady who was interpreter and she told her groups what we were talking. My husband had to change the subject and I was so cunfused. I asked him what hell were you talking about? His subject was about You are so rude about interpreter what we talk and you are so big nosey. I realized that the lady knew sign language and she stopped interepter for her groups. She never aplolize to us at all. What a b*** was she?

Yea, that was rude of her. To tell her friends what u and your husband were talking about is a total lack of respect on her part.

spainmale · 02-03-2007, 11:17 PM

If you happen to see deaf talk in public transporation. You dont know them but you can understand in ASL. The same way as hearing people they can overheard about them talking issues.. That's nornal

***VamPyroX*** · 02-04-2007, 03:28 AM

Simple, don't talk about things you don't want others to see you say.

If you're going to talk about something secretive or about someone else, then do it in your own room or in a car... not in public.

As for you seeing someone else, that's their problem. However, you could show respect and not stare at them. I'm sure that you would be curious, but then again... how would their conversation benefit you? They're both strangers and finding something about them won't really benefit you or anything.

For instance, I see these two strangers talking about how they lost their jobs. Well, I'm not working. I won't be working in this city in the near future. They may have done something wrong to have lost their job and it isn't my concern or business of why this happened to them. So, I just ignore them.

Interpretrator · 02-04-2007, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by spainmale

If you happen to see deaf talk in public transporation. You dont know them but you can understand in ASL. The same way as hearing people they can overheard about them talking issues.. That's nornal

Except that deaf people often assume that they are speaking "privately" since the average group of people on the subway don't know ASL. I was taught that if you know ASL and see people signing, either join them if you're so inclined, or just don't watch.

shel90 · 02-04-2007, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Interpretrator

Hearing people can't help but overhear other people, whereas signers (deaf or hearing) can be polite and look away from other people's conversations.

In our ITP we were told it is polite to inform people in a situation like Audiofuzzy's that you can sign, so their conversation may not be as private as they think. I think our teacher's motivation in telling us this was to encourage us to interact with deaf people, but personally I've never felt comfortable with this. I just try not to look at them. If I notice a break in the conversation I may sign something like "nice day" or other small talk just to give them a hint that there's a signer around, but generally I try to ignore it, although it can be difficult. (Not because I care about the gossip of strangers but because it's just hard for me to look away from signers!)

What positive results are you expecting to accomplish with a comment like that, I wonder?

I may be interpreting u wrong but are u saying that in ITP, u were told to tell other people who do not know signs what people are conversing about in sign language? If so, then that is not fair cuz I would be in a crowded place with all different spoken conversations going on around me, I wouldnt know what is being said unless I have an terp with me all times. Also..I think that is kinda rude anyway.

If I read u wrong, pls let me know.

Interpretrator · 02-04-2007, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shel90

I may be interpreting u wrong but are u saying that in ITP, u were told to tell other people who do not know signs what people are conversing about in sign language?

No. See my more concise version above. (Didn't realize this thread was so old.)

GalaxyAngel · 02-04-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Opal

When I was in a train, chatting with other deaf friend for 45 minutes until the next passenger was about to leave for her home departure, she turn round and said "I am Deaf" nice to see you!

I was godsmacked why didn't she tell us in first place!

Yeah so am I and happened like this several few times!
Mak'n me fumes my ears out... why can't you being nosy while I'm coverstation w/my friend..? I feel alike *shove their arse out of train door* but too late!

LuciaDisturbed · 02-05-2007, 12:29 AM

Tonight at a party, this deaf guy was talking about his kidney stones and how that the doc has to stick a tube or whatever into his penis in order to get the stone out...I and my friend didn't want to know that, but we were right next to him and happened to look his way...we were like oh yikes, and looked away.

It is not our business and we didn't want to know his personal details! But he was talking about it out in the open!

He didn't even attempt to conceal what he was saying to his friend!

I'd think that if someone has something that needs to be talked about that is personal, he should have gone out in the hall or whatever where there is no one! Cause we didn't want to know the details!

wildzerica06 · 02-05-2007, 04:37 AM

yep seems like deaf and hearing people need to learn how to leave personal things at home.. and I had ran into few deaf people on bus but I never told them i was deaf.. but it was amusing to watch them sign... sure I ran into some deaf people now and then.. if I am bored on bus on my own I wud be on pager...

02-04-2007, 03:28 AM	#35 (permalink)
*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 27,867	Simple, don't talk about things you don't want others to see you say. If you're going to talk about something secretive or about someone else, then do it in your own room or in a car... not in public. As for you seeing someone else, that's their problem. However, you could show respect and not stare at them. I'm sure that you would be curious, but then again... how would their conversation benefit you? They're both strangers and finding something about them won't really benefit you or anything. For instance, I see these two strangers talking about how they lost their jobs. Well, I'm not working. I won't be working in this city in the near future. They may have done something wrong to have lost their job and it isn't my concern or business of why this happened to them. So, I just ignore them. __________________ Check out my city... CLICK HERE! (If you already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

02-05-2007, 12:29 AM	#40 (permalink)
LuciaDisturbed Amateur Psychiatrist Join Date: May 2006 Location: San Antonio, Texas Posts: 5,163	Tonight at a party, this deaf guy was talking about his kidney stones and how that the doc has to stick a tube or whatever into his penis in order to get the stone out...I and my friend didn't want to know that, but we were right next to him and happened to look his way...we were like oh yikes, and looked away. It is not our business and we didn't want to know his personal details! But he was talking about it out in the open! He didn't even attempt to conceal what he was saying to his friend! I'd think that if someone has something that needs to be talked about that is personal, he should have gone out in the hall or whatever where there is no one! Cause we didn't want to know the details! __________________ We will assimilate you. Resistance is futile. We will add your distinctiveness to our Collective. Implanted left ear 10/11/06, activated 10/16/06 - Nucleus Freedom DeviantArt

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02-03-2007, 11:17 PM	#34 (permalink)
spainmale Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 249	If you happen to see deaf talk in public transporation. You dont know them but you can understand in ASL. The same way as hearing people they can overheard about them talking issues.. That's nornal

02-05-2007, 04:37 AM	#41 (permalink)
wildzerica06 -Erica- Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: california Posts: 4,161 Blog Entries: 2	yep seems like deaf and hearing people need to learn how to leave personal things at home.. and I had ran into few deaf people on bus but I never told them i was deaf.. but it was amusing to watch them sign... sure I ran into some deaf people now and then.. if I am bored on bus on my own I wud be on pager...