Can someone who is severely deaf talk normally? - Page 5

ayala920 · 03-12-2006, 11:44 PM

I didn't even think about the Brad Pitt connections. Never have been a big fan, actually.

I, personally, would rather stay out of his closet. And I doubt you could deduce much from my room- I sleep on an air mattress in the middle of my living room.

Cousin Vinny · 03-13-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by me_punctured

My cousin runs a boutique that mainly specializes in vintage dresses. I got that dress from her shop. It is my birthday dress. Every year, for my birthday, I buy myself a dress. I look good in it too.

I don't know if it's an intentional Freudian slip there... I think I can speak for all the guys here at AllDeaf in which we all would love to see you wearing that outfit! Oh, if you can throw in a little pole-dancing, that would be great!

*ducking thrown tomatoes*

Ok, I'm getting out of here!

Endymion · 03-13-2006, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Eyeth

I don't know if it's an intentional Freudian slip there... I think I can speak for all the guys here at AllDeaf in which we all would love to see you wearing that outfit! Oh, if you can throw in a little pole-dancing, that would be great!

*ducking thrown tomatoes*

Ok, I'm getting out of here!

ROFL! I can assure you, Eyeth, that it was intentional.

ayala920 · 03-13-2006, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Endymion

ROFL! I can assure you, Eyeth, that it was intentional.

Well, well, Endymion- Who's the bastard now?

Endymion · 03-13-2006, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ayala920

Well, well, Endymion- Who's the bastard now?

Lol. No, ask me_punctured yourself. You'll see what I mean.

me_punctured · 03-13-2006, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Eyeth

I don't know if it's an intentional Freudian slip there... I think I can speak for all the guys here at AllDeaf in which we all would love to see you wearing that outfit! Oh, if you can throw in a little pole-dancing, that would be great!

*ducking thrown tomatoes*

Ok, I'm getting out of here!

I don't do it for free, sorry. Nor am I in business at the moment. And the tomatoes make a scrumptious addition to the salad. I could use them to make spaghetti sauce from scratch.

I alsdo don't believe that you speak for all the guys here at AllDeaf.com v4. Some may not be interested in checking out my birthday dress due to preferential differences.

me_punctured · 03-13-2006, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Endymion

ROFL! I can assure you, Eyeth, that it was intentional.

What do you know, Endymion? You don't know nothing!

Endymion · 03-13-2006, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by me_punctured

What do you know, Endymion? You don't know nothing!

Phhbbbbbbbttttttt.

You know exactly what I'm talking about, Miss One of Two (three!) Birthday Suits!

ayala920 · 03-13-2006, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Endymion

Phhbbbbbbbttttttt.

You know exactly what I'm talking about, Miss One of Two (three!) Birthday Suits!

I am so lost... Not that it's a new thing for me.

me_punctured · 03-13-2006, 01:47 AM

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I am so lost... Not that it's a new thing for me.

Endymion's jealous of my birthday suit collection. He has the need to tease me about it at every opportunity.

ayala920 · 03-13-2006, 01:55 AM

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Endymion's jealous of my birthday suit collection. He has the need to tease me about it at every opportunity.

If only he had an Armani suit...

Endymion · 03-13-2006, 02:02 AM

What does the Lion (Ayala) in the Wizard of Oz ask for? "If I only had a . . . "

ayala920 · 03-13-2006, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Endymion

What does the Lion (Ayala) in the Wizard of Oz ask for? "If I only had a . . . "

That was just harsh.

me_punctured · 03-13-2006, 02:20 AM

He is what he is, plus a twenty-dollar stick concealer.

ayala920 · 03-13-2006, 02:50 AM

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He is what he is, plus a twenty-dollar stick concealer.

That's some expensive concealer. Guess it would have to be for someone wearing Armani.

Endymion · 03-13-2006, 04:00 AM

I botched that one up. I meant the tin man, not the lion. Besides, if I recall right, the lion never says "If I only had a . . . ."

My fault, I own up to my lexical slips.

Endymion · 03-13-2006, 09:04 AM

As an addendum, see my PM. Never meant to hit below the belt on that one and I'm sorry if I did. By the way, let's play nice, shall we?

Etoile · 03-13-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Endymion

I botched that one up. I meant the tin man, not the lion. Besides, if I recall right, the lion never says "If I only had a . . . ."

He almost says it...he says "If I only had the nerve"

ayala920 · 03-13-2006, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Endymion

As an addendum, see my PM. Never meant to hit below the belt on that one and I'm sorry if I did. By the way, let's play nice, shall we?

Because the below-the-belt shot was unintentional, I'll forgive you. This time.

I suppose we could play nice. Don't really see how that's fun, but I'm willing to try it.

me_punctured · 03-14-2006, 01:32 AM

Endymion playing nice? What a novel idea. The shepherd should be put to sleep and left alone on a high mountain for good.

Msfantastic14 · 03-15-2006, 07:03 PM

im proufoundly deaf but i have a cochlear implant i speak and hear ok when i have it on but when i take it off my parents told me they notice my speech going a bit wierd coz i cant hear what im saying!

Sweetmind · 06-25-2006, 10:46 AM

http://www.deafeducation.org/stories/true.html

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THE TRUTH
ANOTHER TRUE STORY

Throughout my school life, I have been plucked out of many lessons about 2 or 3 times a week to be trooped off to a local University where they teach students to become teachers of the Deaf.

To their eyes, I was a 'model' pupil, easy target for student teachers to try their skills in teaching me to speak good with that bulky headphones over my ears, using feather prompting me to say my p's, s's, k's, m's, n's etc properly. Oh the look of these student teachers' faces when they thought how well they have done on me and patting my head etc! But with bulky heavy headphones, comes along with sore red swollen ears! Thank you so much!

As years go by, oralist teachers for ever strummed into me on how well I speak and lipread and on how good I will be for society. Me, as a naïve Deafie, nodding my head away feeling clever.

Clever, my word! Real world soon hit me and I realised before it became too late. I was travelling to Portsmouth to meet my fiance by train. I had to change trains from Euston to Waterloo with heavy suitcase. I summoned the help of a porter to carry my suitcase - by the way it was 1966 then! When I uttered the word, Waterloo, which I thought pretty easy to say it with no p's, s's k's etc. The porter did not understand me straight away but off he went carrying my suitcase. He then turned and asked me if I was a French so I said no. We carried on, when he turned and asked me if I was a German so again I said no.

I thought strange, why does he keep asking me if I was foreign so I told him that I am Deaf which he remarked ah that's why!

I did not know what he mean. So when I went home and asked my mum why did he think I was foreign with the questions like that. She told me that I have a Deaf voice - different from hearing people's voice.

From that day on, I realised my true Deaf identity and began to tell people that oralist teachers have brainwashed me in saying I have a good speech to meet society's expectations - that was rubbish and a very BIG lie! Thank goodness I was able to realised my Deaf identity and be proud of it rather than becoming oralist freak!

Brenda Hamlin

There you go!

Sweetmind

jillio · 06-29-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweetmind

http://www.deafeducation.org/stories/true.html

There you go!

Sweetmind

When trying to get a profoundly deaf child to learn speech, you try to teach them to say what they see. Since all speech movements cannot be seen, most will leave out the sounds that can't be speech read.

The point is not whether they can develop speech skills, it is why should they have to? I say concentrate on LANGUAGE, not speech.

deafdyke · 06-29-2006, 04:00 PM

OMG, yeah I've gone through that too. I don't think that this should mean total abandonment of speech training, as there are dumbasses everywhere who can't undy our speech. My speech is decent, but I have STILL had tons of experiances like the one in SM's post......and don't even get me started on the times when someone thought that I'm MR b/c of my voice. Still VERY self conscious about my voice. Actually when I was younger, I was a lot shyer b/c people made fun of my voice....

Etoile · 06-29-2006, 04:26 PM

What I don't understand is why speech therapists sometimes cover their mouth. Yes, it's possible to "learn to listen" with residual hearing but why not let the kid listen AND see?

jillio · 06-29-2006, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Etoile

What I don't understand is why speech therapists sometimes cover their mouth. Yes, it's possible to "learn to listen" with residual hearing but why not let the kid listen AND see?

It's to try to force the kids to use their residual hearing. It comes from the (forgive me for this word!) audist attitude of believing that it will make the kid less deaf and more like a hearing kid. It is absolutely a ridiculas theory and a stupid practice. My son used to reach across the table and try to pull their hand from their mouth. It causes extreme frustration for the deaf kid who is trying to do what is being asked of him, but prevented from understanding what it is they want him to do. I find it a cruel and torturous treatment.

jillio · 06-29-2006, 05:24 PM

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OMG, yeah I've gone through that too. I don't think that this should mean total abandonment of speech training, as there are dumbasses everywhere who can't undy our speech. My speech is decent, but I have STILL had tons of experiances like the one in SM's post......and don't even get me started on the times when someone thought that I'm MR b/c of my voice. Still VERY self conscious about my voice. Actually when I was younger, I was a lot shyer b/c people made fun of my voice....

And, they not only don't understand, they automatically assume that you are MR because they are too stupid to grasp it!

loml · 06-29-2006, 06:44 PM

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When trying to get a profoundly deaf child to learn speech, you try to teach them to say what they see. Since all speech movements cannot be seen, most will leave out the sounds that can't be speech read.

A profoundly deaf children can/does have invisible sounds cleared up via Cued English/Cued Speech.

03-12-2006, 11:44 PM	#121 (permalink)
ayala920 Crazy, not evil Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Somewhere Posts: 444	I didn't even think about the Brad Pitt connections. Never have been a big fan, actually. I, personally, would rather stay out of his closet. And I doubt you could deduce much from my room- I sleep on an air mattress in the middle of my living room. __________________ ~Ayala~ "Most English-speaking people...will admit that cellar door is 'beautiful', especially if dissociated from its sense (and from its spelling). More beautiful than, say, sky, and far more beautiful than beautiful. Well then, in Welsh for me cellar doors are extraordinarily frequent, and moving to the higher dimension, the words in which there is pleasure in the contemplation of the association of form and sense are abundant."

03-15-2006, 07:03 PM	#141 (permalink)
Msfantastic14 Msfantastic14 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: UK Posts: 8	hi im proufoundly deaf but i have a cochlear implant i speak and hear ok when i have it on but when i take it off my parents told me they notice my speech going a bit wierd coz i cant hear what im saying!

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03-13-2006, 02:02 AM	#132 (permalink)
Endymion All but haute couture Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Somewhere within the geographical proximity of sanity. Posts: 1,382	What does the Lion (Ayala) in the Wizard of Oz ask for? "If I only had a . . . "

03-13-2006, 02:20 AM	#134 (permalink)
me_punctured Urdhva Dhanurasana Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 363	He is what he is, plus a twenty-dollar stick concealer.

03-13-2006, 04:00 AM	#136 (permalink)
Endymion All but haute couture Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Somewhere within the geographical proximity of sanity. Posts: 1,382	I botched that one up. I meant the tin man, not the lion. Besides, if I recall right, the lion never says "If I only had a . . . ." My fault, I own up to my lexical slips.

03-13-2006, 09:04 AM	#137 (permalink)
Endymion All but haute couture Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Somewhere within the geographical proximity of sanity. Posts: 1,382	As an addendum, see my PM. Never meant to hit below the belt on that one and I'm sorry if I did. By the way, let's play nice, shall we?

03-14-2006, 01:32 AM	#140 (permalink)
me_punctured Urdhva Dhanurasana Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 363	Endymion playing nice? What a novel idea. The shepherd should be put to sleep and left alone on a high mountain for good.

06-29-2006, 04:00 PM	#144 (permalink)
deafdyke So NOT a Princess! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trebekistan Posts: 6,685	OMG, yeah I've gone through that too. I don't think that this should mean total abandonment of speech training, as there are dumbasses everywhere who can't undy our speech. My speech is decent, but I have STILL had tons of experiances like the one in SM's post......and don't even get me started on the times when someone thought that I'm MR b/c of my voice. Still VERY self conscious about my voice. Actually when I was younger, I was a lot shyer b/c people made fun of my voice....

06-29-2006, 04:26 PM	#145 (permalink)
Etoile HOH terp Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Washington DC Posts: 926	What I don't understand is why speech therapists sometimes cover their mouth. Yes, it's possible to "learn to listen" with residual hearing but why not let the kid listen AND see?