ASL third official language of canada?

jamielee · 07-28-2005, 09:56 PM

I was just wondering if this statement is or will be true soon? My friend who is in her 3rd year of education, seen a presentation by a deafie and hoh ladies and they said something that it is in the works, to have ASL the third official language of Canada? Anyone got any info for me???

deafdyke · 07-28-2005, 11:16 PM

Wow....that would be AWESOME!!!! Daniel Ling would be rolling over in his grave if that happened!!!!

07-28-2005, 11:40 PM

The Deaf communities of Canada are trying to get Parliament to recognise LSQ ,MSL and ASL however you can see in the ethnologue report that ASL, MSL and LSQ is readily recognised in Canada.

GalaxyAngel · 07-29-2005, 12:42 AM

There's 3 languages by sign languages in Canada.

jamielee · 07-29-2005, 03:26 AM

yes i know that there are three signed languages but I had only herd about ASL being the third.. as for 4th and 5th i have no idea...I geuss they could just make it easy for everyone and say the third language is sign...

jamielee · 07-29-2005, 03:28 AM

Tousi · 07-29-2005, 07:50 AM

I heard it was the same here in the USA but some say it's the fourth most used language.....

07-29-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

I heard it was the same here in the USA but some say it's the fourth most used language.....

This is where the problem lies within the education system. Parliament does not recognise the Deaf people's language which is ASL. The Deaf school uses ASL to teach and expects perfect english syntax which is impossible to ask of the Deaf students. We need to recognise that we have three languages and work within the languages. Accept the fact that not one single Deaf individual is the same. Teach the school curriculum in ASL and this is how students can excel in english comprehension.

Deaf educator using ASL - " Girl buy dress worth $10"
Deaf educator expecting english from student "Girl dress $10"

You see where the syntax and the english structure is really lost in between the communication? The educator has to take the sentence.. point it out to the student and explain it in full and then sign in ASL.

Sorry for offtopic'ing here.

Interpretrator · 07-29-2005, 04:43 PM

"Most used" and "official" are two completely different things.

There is in fact no OFFICIAL language in the United States. This has been a source of a lot of debate and controversy.

jamielee · 07-29-2005, 06:36 PM

interesting...silly america

07-29-2005, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Interpretrator

"Most used" and "official" are two completely different things.

There is in fact no OFFICIAL language in the United States. This has been a source of a lot of debate and controversy.

The same goes for Canada, we have no "official" language because we have three different languages based on locality. It is just like a Canadian travelling to USA and learning new ways of signing "cabbage"". The way we sign "cabbage" here in central Canada, it is "garbage" in East USA. Believe me, it's quite a hoot to chat with Deaf Americans.

Deaf American-"Oh can you throw out the garbage?"
Deaf Canadian - (perplexed look) "What cabbage?!"

To be a bystander of this conversation... priceless!

tegumi · 07-30-2005, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cookie Monster

Deaf American-"Oh can you throw out the garbage?"
Deaf Canadian - (perplexed look) "What cabbage?!"

To be a bystander of this conversation... priceless!

What about the other way around? The Canadian tells the American "Go buy some cabbage." ..........

07-30-2005, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tegumi

What about the other way around? The Canadian tells the American "Go buy some cabbage." ..........

Can you imagine what miscommunications will happen when the Deaf Canadian tries to pick up the Deaf American or vice versa? There's always AllDeaf...

/seriously cracking up here!!!

07-30-2005, 07:32 PM

CookieMonster, when your gf visited here last May, it was really funny when we mixed some Canadian signs with ASL. My boss was looking at both of us wondering what on Earth we said, etc...

I still remember quite a bit of these Canadian signs and still sign "computer" the way your gf signs it, cos it's quite similiar to the LSF version for computer (l'ordinateur).

jamielee · 07-31-2005, 02:13 AM

tegumi · 07-31-2005, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jamielee

so what??

07-31-2005, 10:19 AM

My gf said she recalls that so fondly!! The Canadian sign language was perceived as "lazy signing" and also she did so much fingerspelling which was a real no-no when she visited you! She'd be a real eyesore in Europe where there's virtually little or no fingerspelling at all!

jamielee · 07-31-2005, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tegumi

so what??

Because I started this thread so that I could get more info about the topic, not so you can talk about garbage and cabage....

07-31-2005, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jamielee

Because I started this thread so that I could get more info about the topic, not so you can talk about garbage and cabage....

We are participating in your thread about ASL being the official language of Canada. We are, in one way or another, staying on topic by relating to the topic and this is just my opinion. Try not to flame your own thread.

jamielee · 08-01-2005, 11:06 AM

like i said this is not about cabbage and garbage.... take it somewhere else. the only way you are on topic in anyway is that you are still talking about asl...

07-28-2005, 09:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
jamielee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 186	ASL third official language of canada? I was just wondering if this statement is or will be true soon? My friend who is in her 3rd year of education, seen a presentation by a deafie and hoh ladies and they said something that it is in the works, to have ASL the third official language of Canada? Anyone got any info for me???

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07-28-2005, 11:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
deafdyke So NOT a Princess! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Trebekistan Posts: 6,685	Wow....that would be AWESOME!!!! Daniel Ling would be rolling over in his grave if that happened!!!!

07-28-2005, 11:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cookie Monster Guest Posts: n/a	The Deaf communities of Canada are trying to get Parliament to recognise LSQ ,MSL and ASL however you can see in the ethnologue report that ASL, MSL and LSQ is readily recognised in Canada.

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jamielee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 186	yes i know that there are three signed languages but I had only herd about ASL being the third.. as for 4th and 5th i have no idea...I geuss they could just make it easy for everyone and say the third language is sign...

07-29-2005, 03:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
jamielee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 186

07-29-2005, 07:50 AM	#7 (permalink)
Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 8,249	I heard it was the same here in the USA but some say it's the fourth most used language.....

07-29-2005, 04:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
Interpretrator Crime fighter Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,425	"Most used" and "official" are two completely different things. There is in fact no OFFICIAL language in the United States. This has been a source of a lot of debate and controversy.

07-29-2005, 06:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
jamielee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 186	interesting...silly america

07-30-2005, 07:32 PM	#14 (permalink)
kuifje75 Guest Posts: n/a	CookieMonster, when your gf visited here last May, it was really funny when we mixed some Canadian signs with ASL. My boss was looking at both of us wondering what on Earth we said, etc... I still remember quite a bit of these Canadian signs and still sign "computer" the way your gf signs it, cos it's quite similiar to the LSF version for computer (l'ordinateur).

07-31-2005, 02:13 AM	#15 (permalink)
jamielee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 186

07-31-2005, 10:19 AM	#17 (permalink)
Cookie Monster Guest Posts: n/a	My gf said she recalls that so fondly!! The Canadian sign language was perceived as "lazy signing" and also she did so much fingerspelling which was a real no-no when she visited you! She'd be a real eyesore in Europe where there's virtually little or no fingerspelling at all!

08-01-2005, 11:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
jamielee Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver Island, Canada Posts: 186	like i said this is not about cabbage and garbage.... take it somewhere else. the only way you are on topic in anyway is that you are still talking about asl...