jillio

That "we" is a very broad statement. Don't assume that all are as closed minded and judegemental as you yourself are. And, as far as hearies learning sign, I'll put my skills up against yours any day of the week. As well as my knowledge of deaf culture and history.

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coolgirlspyer90

no fair...

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Oh well. Pity.

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orione1even

Just thought I would weigh in on this discussion about hearing people wanting to learn bad words.

I am hearing. I have been learning ASL for some time now and am amazed by the beauty and structure of the language. I learned how to sign all manner of swears one afternoon by searching on youtube. So that is out of the way. I came here to learn more about deaf culture and hopefully make some friends in the deaf community.

As far as cussing goes, I cuss quite a bit as it is so it stands to reason that I would do so while signing. I obviously don't swear at everyone as that would be silly, but it's just part of my vernacular. Learning swears is part of learning any language, but I feel the best way to learn is to immerse oneself in the culture.

So that being said...any hearing people who just want to learn swears, hit me up and I'll send you a few links. Anyone who has anything to teach me about sign language or deaf culture I am more than happy to learn from any and all of you. Seriously.

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Hear Again

The first time I started learning bad words in ASL was when my sign language instructor taught them to me (I was 24 at the time). I didn't ask to learn them; she taught them to me so I wouldn't make the mistake of accidentally signing a bad word when I meant to sign something completely different.

As for sighted-hearing people asking me what swear words are in ASL, I've had this happen to me many times. Like LuciaDisturbed, I don't mind teaching them to people as long as they are also interested in learning other ASL signs.

deafskeptic

My parents wouldn't swear so I learned most of my swear words in ASL first then English. I don't swear much but I swear much more than my parents ever did.

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RonJaxon

I actually think it's kind of important for people to learn the "Bad words" when learning ASL. Not always to use them but so they don't accidentally use them.

I had a girl who was learning ASL come up to me and ask me where I ****. She meant to ask where I work.

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SimplyMints

Okay, please forgive my excessive profanity, but I think it's necessary in order for me to tell this story. Also, I'm on strong prescription drugs right now, and they're doing funky things to my brain.

My dad said something just last night or the night before (hard to keep track of the days on this medication). Okay, I'm a (profoundly) deaf accordion player, and I'm in a group getting ready for a performance this Halloween. So, my dad and my sister and I were there practising, and it was so funny because my dad said this song needs a hard **** to be ready by Halloween. He also meant work, so I thought this was really funny when I read your post! And he's not the swearing type.

I finally learned where he learned that when my mom came in and congratulated us on how hard we'd been ****ing. And she doesn't usually swear either! My sister and I were rolling on the floor! Okay, I was on my pain medication and my sister was on her flu medication, so we were both intoxicated, but it was extremely funny to us! We decided to just tell them how to sign "work" but you're right. Maybe it's a good idea to let them know what they were saying. In her defence, my mom said she learned it from Dr. Vicars. I kindly suggested that she check again

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DeafDoc1

Since I use terps at work, now, my office staff are all learning ASL. When they ask me about the "naughty" signs, I tell them they have to learn and use 10 "clean" signs first. They're learning fast!!

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F-word & B-word, Youtube "bad songs " signed. My Sister and Cousin both use them when they're mad. I feel at blame. My idea about curse words changed about for some point in my First Year of college and I wrote about signing it to myself in a response paper on a well f*** article. I had just came across it learning ASL101, you can't blame me. Before ASL101, I thought the sign not was the F-word. No wonder there why the ASL club leader was replaced.

MushyCookies

DeafDoc1. That's brilliant!! I bow down to you for that creative idea.


I can't count the times i get asked how to sign all the bad words. I usually just tell some of them "NO" But if it is one of my closer friends, who i know would not use it out of spite. Like in a joking way, that's ok with me. >

respectyoda

I wouldn't ever teach a hearing person bad words in sign language because bad language shouldn't ever be used in any shape, way, or form. I have seen hearing people upon learning bad words in sign language go up and use it right away with a deaf individual and the deaf individual are disgusted with it.

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CrazyPaul

(Off point) That tells me that you don't watch movies that have foul language. Am I correct? If so, wow, you are too holy.

MushyCookies

Why do you care whether he does or does not?

CrazyPaul

I was being nosy.

BTW, he said bad language is unacceptable so if he goes to movies that have bad language, then he's a hypocrite.

respectyoda

It is not good to be nosy.

I don't go to movies. By the way, I wasn't just referring to movie theaters, but anywhere bad language is prevalent. Bad language corrupts good manners!

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CrazyPaul

What about stand-up comedy? It usually has bad language and it makes us laugh. Same thing with actual conversation with people. When I talk dirty, it usually makes other people laugh as well.

But if I am talking with you, I have to take it easy for your sake. LOL

You are what you are. I am what I am. That's what life is all about.

Imagine life without bad language...boring!

respectyoda

I don't go to stand-up comedy either. I am aware that bad language is used by stand-up comedians.

Life would be much better without bad language. Look at how ill-mannered teenagers are when they use foul language when speaking with their elders!!!!

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CrazyPaul

Alot of teenagers have no judgement. That's a different story. My kids don't swear anyway.

caz12

bet they do when you not around

respectyoda

That could be a possibility. That's why parents must teach their children that it is wrong to use bad language no matter where they are and even if their parents are not watching them.

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caz12

i like to think they got good command of english or what ever langage is used.it do not bother me to much if used as verbal release of feeling, but to use it just because you can and no brains use english is sad...when i swear it usually at myself....anyhow as someone who been hearing and now deaf signed swear words dont have same punch as verbal also verbal is hurtful....only time i use bsl when someone ask me what they are

MushyCookies

Yep! The community we live in now is pretty disgusting, I have had children flip me off in a passing when they are on the school bus. I find that quite sad, because that tells me a lot about their parents. They only have them to show them the right way of life. And when they mess up, boundaries are not set, don't expect the kids to be so cute and nice when they are all grown up. I sometimes feel as if I was born in the wrong century. My parents were strict but very loving I am very thankful I have them in my life.

respectyoda

I understand exactly how you feel. However, I am glad to be in this century because Deaf people surely didn't have it easy a century ago! Yes, the way children behaves most certainly reflects back on the parents. These days parents are leaving their children to be raised by the TV. Parents don't care to teach their children about modesty, respect, and morality.

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CrazyPaul

Well, I am sure that many parents try hard to educate their children, however some children don't listen and do stupid things due to peer pressure. For example, I always told my son to pull up his pants but he never listened. He is growing up now so he is changing his ways which I believe that's normal. My daughter wore too much black eyeliners when she was young but now she is aware of it and is changing her looks. You know that alot of teenagers are hard to handle so don't blame parents. It's all about peer pressure (especially from high school students). I thought you knew.

respectyoda

Many parents do not educate them on having morals and values when it comes to discretion, especially with clothes. Teenagers shouldn't be hard to handle if they were raised properly from birth. Many parents do not work with them in their youth and as a result, they are much harder to deal with in their teenager years due to their attitude, disrespect, and so on.

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