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Unread 11-01-2011, 11:03 PM   #1
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How Do You Sign This Word?

Just starting a new thread for people who may have wondered for a while about how to sign a specific word. Well, this is the thread to do it.

Here's my question, how do you sign the word, "assimilate"?

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Unread 11-01-2011, 11:07 PM   #2
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lol a repost - http://www.alldeaf.com/sign-language...-you-sign.html

but I'll play with this thread
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Unread 11-01-2011, 11:09 PM   #3
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Just starting a new thread for people who may have wondered for a while about how to sign a specific word. Well, this is the thread to do it.

Here's my question, how do you sign the word, "assimilate"?
Not like "merge,culture?"
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Unread 11-01-2011, 11:20 PM   #4
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I was thinking it would be something similar to the sign for the word, "mainstream".
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Maybe the sign "include/inclusive" to the bosom/chest? Wish I could describe it better....
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If I was using assimilate to mean I was taking in info to understand fully, I would probably sign 'collect-collect-collect learn'. If I was using it to express integration, I would sign 'mainstream'.
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I was thinking it would be something similar to the sign for the word, "mainstream".
I agree.
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sign like merge ?
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Depends on the context. (I know, I know, standard answer from me. )

1. Gathering up various objects/ideas, then including them into oneself. (Posts #5 and 6a)

2. Blending in with an already existing group. (3, 4, 6b, 7, 8)

3. Absorbing (nutrition, physiological).

4. Adapt or change to fit into another culture or group.

5. Join the Borg.
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Not so simple, after all, eh?
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Not so simple, after all, eh?
Rarely is.
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5. Join the Borg.

I'm sold. Where do I sign up?
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How to you sign "What is your weakness?" (that's one of the story from other thread... and terp stopped for minute trying to figure out how to sign for that)
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Unread 11-02-2011, 12:28 PM   #14
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Depends on the context.

Do you mean lacking skill? "I'm weak in math."

Do you mean can't resist a temptation? "My weakness is chocolate."
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How do you sign Deaf (capital D)?
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With vehemence! Lol.
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Is it really? Same as deaf, but with attitude?
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This how I do. but then I also use d hand sign deaf, apparently this not "correct" either.
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How to you sign "What is your weakness?" (that's one of the story from other thread... and terp stopped for minute trying to figure out how to sign for that)
Good question for me SneakerNet because I have had to think about it for a while :-). If it was referring to a weakness in character or skill, I would probably sign "Character/skill believe weak yourself, what?". If it was referring to a weakness for some thing, I would sign "Can't resist (or resist none) what?" I might follow up with giving some examples for clarity.
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Unread 11-05-2011, 04:51 PM   #20
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I'm still *really* new to sign, so forgive me is these are dumb questions hah. I also will be the first one to admit I don't understand ASL -- my bf signs PSE and since I'm mostly learning from him & lifeprint.com, I still don't Get ASL -- grammar/structure-wise.

How do you sign "mood" like if you wanted to say, "I'm in a bad mood". Is there a way to say this without saying a specific emotion, like "I feel angry"?

And, how do you sign the word "care"? Like "who cares?" I know "I don't care" is almost like...taking your dominant hand and grabbing snot from your nose/throwing it away from your body (haha I don't know how else to describe it, sorry!) but I was under the impression that that sign only refers to yourself.

Oh one more! Haha sorry. How do you say "sense", like "that makes no sense"? Not sense as in smell/sight etc.
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AND, I think I incorrectly make up compound signs sometimes. Is is incorrect, when signing "every thing", to sign "every" (a hands sideways, dominant hand brushing upward against the other stationary hand) and "thing"? Same with every time, every one etc.?
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Unread 11-05-2011, 05:17 PM   #22
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My ASL atrocious but for bad mood would probably sign 'bad and feel.' Then, 'go' and 'boom' (like go, or else!).

For 'everything' I sign every+thing.
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How about a sign for dork? What translates best, nerd? Weird + "O" (weirdo)? I think about making one up (teasing name exchanged with my husband), like just "DK".
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bad mood - If I didn't want to be specific (angry, depressed, frustrated) then I would sign bad and then fingerspell mood

don't care - I use that sign no matter who I am referring to - me, he, she, them - but if it is someone else, I do the sign a little further away from my body closer to where I signed he, she, them.

that makes no sense - I would sign, "means what that?", or "don't-understand what say you", or even "crazy that" (if that was my opinion about what they were saying haha)

Be patient with yourself, learning ASL structure takes a loooong time and lots of exposure to the language. I suspect I will learning for the rest of my days haha because even in the community itself some sign strict ASL structure, some sign PSE, some sign somewhere inbetween - personal preference plays a big role and it depends on what kind of environment they grew up in and now live. Best advice I can give (for what it's worth), don't ever stop asking questions, don't ever assume there is only one way for something to be expressed. :-)
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bad mood - If I didn't want to be specific (angry, depressed, frustrated) then I would sign bad and then fingerspell mood

don't care - I use that sign no matter who I am referring to - me, he, she, them - but if it is someone else, I do the sign a little further away from my body closer to where I signed he, she, them.

that makes no sense - I would sign, "means what that?", or "don't-understand what say you", or even "crazy that" (if that was my opinion about what they were saying haha)

Be patient with yourself, learning ASL structure takes a loooong time and lots of exposure to the language. I suspect I will learning for the rest of my days haha because even in the community itself some sign strict ASL structure, some sign PSE, some sign somewhere inbetween - personal preference plays a big role and it depends on what kind of environment they grew up in and now live. Best advice I can give (for what it's worth), don't ever stop asking questions, don't ever assume there is only one way for something to be expressed. :-)
Thanks this helps a lot! When using the "don't care" sign, do you index first, or just do the sign in the direction of whomever you're signing about?

I definitely need to take an ASL class...as soon as I'm done with college (1 more month!) and can afford it I plan on taking one to help with structure/grammar. I will ask so many questions the instructor will be sick of me immediately!
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Depends on the flow of the conversation whether I would index first or after, "He doesn't/don't care." or "Doesn't/don't-care he" . For myself, "I don't care", I tend to sign, "Don't-care I".

I remember my first ASL class, the teacher was teasing me and at one point he used an open curved 5-hand near his behind and moved it outward. I had no idea what he was expressing so asked, "Are you saying I have a big butt?". He laughed hard and explained that he meant I was rich (ie: a wallet in my pocket was very fat/stuck out far). I learned three things that night ... my teacher had a great sense of humour, ASL is indeed very conceptual, and always ask when you don't understand - never just pretend you do (if I had just smiled and nodded and never asked, I would have gone home and complained to my husband that the teacher called me out on being a fat a** LOL ).
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I have recently seen a sign similar to "selfish" (open-curved 5 hand at chin version) used for the concept of 'hero' or 'protector' (open-curved 5-hand at chin pulled away slowly to 's' hand). Is this familiar to anyone or am I misinterpreting the concept?
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Unread 11-07-2011, 06:50 PM   #28
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I have recently seen a sign similar to "selfish" (open-curved 5 hand at chin version) used for the concept of 'hero' or 'protector' (open-curved 5-hand at chin pulled away slowly to 's' hand). Is this familiar to anyone or am I misinterpreting the concept?
I might be misunderstanding your description but it seems like you're describing PRECIOUS.

Sign for PRECIOUS | ASL Sign Language Video Dictionary
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Nope Reba, I think you got my description pretty well :-). Now I will have to go back and rethink what what was expressed using "precious" and see it if all fits/makes sense. Thanks!
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How would you sign "guarantee"? I'm thinking it would be similar to promise but I'm not sure.

Context example in English: I guarantee you that will hurt.
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