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Unread 03-21-2011, 07:21 PM   #1
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ABC/Classifiers Game

Hey! As some of you know, my SO is taking his ASL classes. He has to sign the ABC's in classifier form (and as a story), and we are really stumped on a couple of letters. I'm trying not to help him -- all the words he has on his list he has learned from his classes already.

So, for example, for "A" (it cannot represent a word beginning with A such as Apple), he is considering "live", "B" for "door", "C" for "strange", etc. We are stumped on "E". I cannot think of a single sign using "E" without representing a word beginning with E. Same for Z.

Ideas, anyone?
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Unread 03-21-2011, 07:43 PM   #2
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Hey! As some of you know, my SO is taking his ASL classes. He has to sign the ABC's in classifier form (and as a story), and we are really stumped on a couple of letters. I'm trying not to help him -- all the words he has on his list he has learned from his classes already.

So, for example, for "A" (it cannot represent a word beginning with A such as Apple), he is considering "live", "B" for "door", "C" for "strange", etc. We are stumped on "E". I cannot think of a single sign using "E" without representing a word beginning with E. Same for Z.

Ideas, anyone?
E for emotional? For emergency? There's a whole host of others but I'm afraid they'd be SEE,
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E for emotional? For emergency? There's a whole host of others but I'm afraid they'd be SEE,
It can't be a word that starts with E. That's why we're stumped.
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It can't be a word that starts with E. That's why we're stumped.
Ooops, sorry, skimmed thru too fast and overlooked, "cannot".
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Electricity classifier for zap for email?
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Hmm ... I wonder if I'm not explaining this right. You know how if you make an "A" you can sign "live" with that, or "help". Or "Y" can be for "party" or "play", etc. I need a word that can be signed with the "E" handshape without it being a word that starts with E. We simply cannot think of one. So it can't be "electricity", or "email". I'm starting to feel like one doesn't exist
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Hmm ... I wonder if I'm not explaining this right. You know how if you make an "A" you can sign "live" with that, or "help". Or "Y" can be for "party" or "play", etc. I need a word that can be signed with the "E" handshape without it being a word that starts with E. We simply cannot think of one. So it can't be "electricity", or "email". I'm starting to feel like one doesn't exist
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Ohhh, I can think of tons.
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Sorry......
Nah, don't be sorry!
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For Z, you can start with doing concepts for reading a book, but with one finger. Looking at four places, representing a Z shape, etc.

As for E, do some sort of concept. Like a biting motion, but thats usually the letter O. Opening a jewel box, using the thumb to "unlock" or "unlatch" it.
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Aggression/aggressive? Ive seen it wil A hands and E hands...
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For Z, you can start with doing concepts for reading a book, but with one finger. Looking at four places, representing a Z shape, etc.

As for E, do some sort of concept. Like a biting motion, but thats usually the letter O. Opening a jewel box, using the thumb to "unlock" or "unlatch" it.
Ok, interesting ideas, thanks. E doesn't seem as easy as most other letters are. I may go sit in his class when they do their presentation and see what the kids come up with!
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Aggression/aggressive? Ive seen it wil A hands and E hands...
I think the E in this case would be emotional, rather than aggression. But it's a great idea, thanks!
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E--nervously biting your fingernails?
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E--nervously biting your fingernails?
It's a thought! I wonder if he could get away with that. Hm...
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E--brush fingertips up and down on chest then examine their shine; like someone does when displaying pride in an accomplish.
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Z--a variation on PFH's suggestion. Make the Z at eye level, and follow the movement of the finger with your eyes as though you're reading a posted notice and tracing the lines with your finger.

Hmm, you could combine the above with the nailbiter. Suppose the important notice that you're reading is an eviction notice?
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Two-handed Z's parallel can describe a zigzag.
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The thing that concerns me is that I think the teacher is looking for a specific word that uses a letter, rather than a concept. I told him to ask his teacher tomorrow about that.

All in all I think he had fun with this. We walked through the entire house and when I saw an object that I knew would use a letter to form a sign for that object without it starting with that letter (like I found a fork in the kitchen, I knew that would use the "v" and not "f" for fork), I would point it to him and had him think about what the sign and letter would be. We got through the whole alphabet with lots of possibilities except for E, Z, and also M and N. Even I can't think of anything for M and N either. The kids in his class are going to definitely tell some interesting stories!
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Two-handed Z's parallel can describe a zigzag.
Can't be the letter. I finally understood that part.
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And oh, he has to construct his story in ALPHABETICAL order! That's why it's gonna be funny
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Z from the earlobes could describe dangling earrings.

Z could describe a buzzed hair pattern on the sides above the ears.
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And oh, he has to construct his story in ALPHABETICAL order! That's why it's gonna be funny
That complicates things.
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Ive never heard of the hadnshape having to be a specific word. This is one of my favs:

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That's awesome! You're right, that video's definitely not specific words. That would make this so much easier, and all of your suggestions work. I'm gonna show this to him. Thanks so much for posting this video.
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Hey, he stole my E idea!

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[QUOTE=Reba;1786422]Hey, he stole my E idea!

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z could be the sign for pizza, maybe?
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It sounds like what he's being asked to do is an ABC story - so you wouldn't use "A" for "LIVE" you'd use it to describe something like the shape of a "curvy women" or mime being an artist getting "perspective" of something in the distance for doing a sketch/painting

For "M" you could mime a swimming breast stroke, then switch to "N" for a forward crawl stroke"

For "I" you'd use it to demonstrate something skinny or like a spaghetti noddle or long piece of string/wire etc.

"o" could be looking through binoculars, breaking something in half, miming going across "monkey bars" (keep the hand as an "O" shape the entire time though

"Y" could be painting with a large brush

"Z" would be something "zooooooming away"


Things like that .... does that make sense?

Basically the rule is that you don't use the handshape to form a SIGN, you use it to Mimic something/represent something. The first things is to think up a "theme" and then create a story out of it - it could be an athlete, someone getting read for school, a person setting up and then going through the process of doing something like a painting in a pubic setting (where they'd have to move things around etc).

A good way to get an understanding of how ABC stories work is to YouTube "ASL ABC Stories"
There's a great "Harry Potter ABC story" on youtube:

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