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Unread 03-24-2010, 08:21 AM   #1
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Health Care to "control the people"

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Rep. John Dingell (D-MI), the Dean of the House of Representatives for being the longest serving member of the body (he was first elected in 1955, succeeding his father, Rep. John Dingell, Sr.), made an amazing admission during a live telephone interview with Detroit WJR News/Talk 760 radio talk show host Paul W. Smith on Smith's show Monday morning, March 22, 2010. The night before, Dingell had been a featured speaker at the Democrat Congressional leadership victory press conference after Obamacare passed the House.

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Let me remind you this [Americans allegedly dying because of lack of universal health care] has been going on for years. We are bringing it to a halt. The harsh fact of the matter is when you're going to pass legislation that will cover 300 [million] American people in different ways it takes a long time to do the necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together to control the people.
Ah, the truth comes out? Isn't that what Hitler wanted, too?

Source: American Thinker. Read the rest and link to his audio.
American Thinker Blog: Rep. Dingell: It's taken a long time to 'control the people'
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Unread 03-24-2010, 08:27 AM   #2
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Thanks for sharing that. I am sure a liberal will come wandering by and attempt to "re-educate" us
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Who-shall-not-be-named? Just like in the Harry Potter movie? You do know there is an ignore feature available? But it was enjoyable to watch the Goblet of Fire, again, last night.
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Unread 03-24-2010, 09:14 AM   #5
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Who-shall-not-be-named? Just like in the Harry Potter movie? You do know there is an ignore feature available? But it was enjoyable to watch the Goblet of Fire, again, last night.
Yeah, my ignore feature is currently utilized.
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Illegal Amnesty Would Further Undermine American Workers -- WASHINGTON, March 23 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --

Illegal Amnesty Would Further Undermine American Workers


Those Dems want to stay in power - recruiting more voters (15-30 million) and guess who gets to pay for their healthcare?


And they don't have to worry about getting blamed for tanking the economy either - they can just blame it on Bush.
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If that so, then it's big mistake to have Health Care
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If that so, then it's big mistake to have Health Care
Unfortunately, The Democrats know what they are doing. It has been an integral part of their strategy to keep the American public misinformed.
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You'll find plenty of fascists and dictators in countries where there is no healthcare.
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Thanks for sharing that. I am sure a liberal will come wandering by and attempt to "re-educate" us
You NEED education.
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Yeah, my ignore feature is currently utilized.

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Ah! and they cometh!
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You'll find plenty of fascists and dictators in countries where there is no healthcare.
Actually, Hitler had a mandatory health care plan too. . . your point?
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Unread 03-24-2010, 11:38 AM   #15
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Actually, Hitler had a mandatory health care plan too. . . your point?
That's exactly my point - you just cherry pick those and use bizarre guilt by association.

Hitler was SELECTIVE with who can be covered. We aren't. We cover all.
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Go to the official site linked above and turn on the voice recognition software to transcribe the audio, you'll see the same quote as mentioned on post #1.

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That's exactly my point - you just cherry pick those and use bizarre guilt by association.

Hitler was SELECTIVE with who can be covered. We aren't. We cover all.
Sure, why not? Cover all in order to control the people. They choose what kind of care we get, not us. We follow their rules, not ours. If you don't like their rules, then you won't get care. Pretty simple, really.

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You know, you never hear the word "outsourcing" on the corporate media outlets, particularly the "Faux" News Network. Interesting how media frames the debate.
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You know, you never hear the word "outsourcing" on the corporate media outlets, particularly the "Faux" News Network. Interesting how media frames the debate.
I hear it (read it on CC) all the time and I watch all of the networks. I think this bill will lead to alot more outsourcing as well.
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Did the reports contain detailed information, like specific corporations and numbers? I haven't seen that. Whirlpool took bail out funds, promptly closed an American factory, and outsourced jobs. So much for recovery. No doubt that outsourcing will continue unabated without federal intervention. The issuance of HB1 visas is at an all time high, too.
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A new report from the Economic Policy Institute finds that "unfair Chinese trade and currency practices caused the loss of as many as 2.4 million U.S. jobs between 2001 and 2008." The report comes as 130 members of Congress last week asked the Obama administration to officially label China a currency manipulator.
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Did the reports contain detailed information, like specific corporations and numbers? I haven't seen that. Whirlpool took bail out funds, promptly closed an American factory, and outsourced jobs. So much for recovery. No doubt that outsourcing will continue unabated without federal intervention. The issuance of HB1 visas is at an all time high, too.
They mentioned it was a problem. Of course it's bad for the economy. Can't blame companies for doing it though. The point is to make a profit. Our government makes that difficult sometimes.
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There you go
Oh great thinking by those 130 people. Let's piss off the people loaning us a ton of money. Brilliant!
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I can blame corporations for doing it, especially when they are paying no taxes. There are these ingenious corporate structures that create off shore tax shelters. As a "person," there are duties as well as rights.
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Here's some more information about the outsourcing data Boult cited:

2.4 million jobs lost due to China from 2001-2008 | The Economic Populist

This is a great website for economic news.
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I can blame corporations for doing it, especially when they are paying no taxes. There are these ingenious corporate structures that create off shore tax shelters. As a "person," there are duties as well as rights.


As long as what they do is legal....more power to them I say. Get government off their back, maybe things will change.
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You have an irrational hatred of government. Then again, you're part of the "Texian Nation." lol I'm a fourth generation Texan, but I don't have illusions of Texas as the promised land.
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You have an irrational hatred of government. Then again, you're part of the "Texian Nation." lol I'm a fourth generation Texan, but I don't have illusions of Texas as the promised land.
I love most of our state government. I love a government that does what is supposed to do.

During the great Texas drought Grover Cleveland denied federal support for Texas saying that charity was not a function of Government. We survived. In fact we have done quite well.

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So it's not Government I dislike.....It's government as it is currently operating that I dislike. Big difference.

I have a hard time believing brave young men who paddled across the Delaware after sustaining months of defeat did so to provide an institution for beggers......

I worked hard and fought long odds to get where I am today. The gimme gimme gimme crowd doesn't sit well with me. :shrug:
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And it shows order and efficiency. Impressive marches. Too bad we don't have that here.
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And it shows order and efficiency. Impressive marches. Too bad we don't have that here.
Not surprised someone missed my point
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