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Unread 09-14-2008, 06:57 AM   #1
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CSDVRS Z-ip340 and HOVRS MVP - Comparsion

After finding more and more about the Z-ip340 and MVP (Hovrs' mobile vp) comparison, I then realized that the Z-ip340 would be the best mobile vp of all to the date so far. I really think that MVP is rather over-hyped as clearly noticed in this AD forum. So little said about the Z-ip340 (csdvrs)....

FYI: I really think that Z-ip340 deserves the big attention this time! why so?


Comparsion with the Z-ip340 and MVP:


Z-ip340 has a screen protection whenever traveling by simply closing... that is what MVP lacks. You have to cloth around the MVP or something to make up to protect it while traveling... too risky with MVP.
Z340 - MVP


Z-ip340; you use keyboard or remote to command and access... MVP; you have to touch-screen in order to command/access. Since touchscreen is rather so sensitive due to scratching and need to clean/wipe dirties often by finger-touching.
Z340 - MVP


Z-ip340 offers only direct one to one for both VRS and caller(s) on the screen... MVP offers up to 8 callers on the screen. Yet most of the times people would use one to one, anyway. MVP is mere ideal for business(es) and/or organization(s), etc... also a group of friends to share chatting at the same time.
MVP - Z340


Z-ip340; you can order one for $99 ($89 - if you have $10 discount coupon) and no need of hassle to finding contacts in order to get one free like what Hovrs offers you to get it early as possible by sending purple tickets and get as many contacts as you can. I personally prefer to order than doing some hassle to get many contacts as I can... yet it's free but $99 for one I don't mind going for that either especially that it offers better features than MVP, I believe.
Both = tossup


Both offer broadband and WiFi.
Both = tossup


Z-ip340 is lightweight and sleek... might be little better overall than MVP offers. MVP; you have to pay $60 (I was told) for the recharger case that you put MVP inside. (forgot what they call that part as)
Z340 - MVP


VRS services - depends on yet we cannot say till both going out to the public and give it few months more before we can say to compare. Yet we know both VRS services are excellent - better than Sorenson, no question! lol
Both = tossup


Z-ip340 offers 90 days for warranty & parts coverage... MVP; from what I was told that you have to pay for the damage(s) to be fixed... want to know as if it's a fact but friends who attended NAD convention told me so. If true...
Z340 - MVP



Z-ip340 is the ONE I would recommend over the MVP!



So far CSDVRS' Z-ip340 beats Hovrs' MVP as explained above based on what I gathered from friends and info online so far. But I'm sure that there are few more features to compare yet we're so limited due to what MVP really offers otherwise.

Feel free to add up more that I might forget something else here and also share your opinions as well. What do you think?
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Unread 09-14-2008, 07:17 AM   #2
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We will inspect all of CSDVRS Z-ip340, HOVRS MVP and Viable VPAD for test. We will make consumer report this autumn.

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Unread 09-14-2008, 07:23 AM   #3
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We will inspect all of CSDVRS Z-ip340, HOVRS MVP and Viable Vision for test. We will make consumer report this autumn.
Yes, we would like to hear more.. thanks and let us know when that comes out.
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I think that we would make consumer report for VRS webcam software.

Sorenson EnVision SL
Viable Vision
HOVRS VideoSign 2.5 and VideoSign 3.0 (Coming soon)
CSDVRS The Z™ PC100
CSDVRS xMeeting (MAC)
LifelinksVRS SightSpeed
SprintVRS VideoSign 2.5
And more....

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well mvp is free and I dont' mind collecting friends and people for purples . do you have the link for other one so I can so some search on CSDVRS' Z-ip340 thanks .
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We will inspect all of CSDVRS Z-ip340, HOVRS MVP and Viable Vision for test. We will make consumer report this autumn.
I've heard of viable vision but they are not out are they???
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I think that we would make consumer report for VRS webcam software.

Sorenson EnVision SL
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HOVRS VideoSign 2.5 and VideoSign 3.0 (Coming soon)
CSDVRS The Z PC100
CSDVRS xMeeting (MAC)
SightSpeed
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By the way I heard about lifelink for sightspeed is out but not sure someone gave me link and it is no longer available and wonders why ? am I wrong ??Or am I confuse . Oh don't forget Ojo phone too
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well mvp is free and I dont' mind collecting friends and people for purples . do you have the link for other one so I can so some search on CSDVRS' Z-ip340 thanks .
you check this out: The Z videophone >> CSDVRS: The Z(tm) Family of Video Phones

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By the way I heard about lifelink for sightspeed is out but not sure someone gave me link and it is no longer available and wonders why ? am I wrong ??Or am I confuse . Oh don't forget Ojo phone too
Thank you about lifelink. they still are online now. I edit Linklife-Sightspeed.

Video Relay Services - VRS - Lifelinks!
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By the way I heard about lifelink for sightspeed is out but not sure someone gave me link and it is no longer available and wonders why ? am I wrong ??Or am I confuse . Oh don't forget Ojo phone too
You say about ojo phone. Sure!

I can add some desktop videophones for consumer report.

SorensonVRS VP-100
SorensonVRS VP-200
D-Link i2eye DVC-1000
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CSDVRS The Z Model 150
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This thread is all about the mobile videophones, actually.

Although I forgot to add Viable VPAD, but we already knew how VPAD performs. It has improved some bit of late.

However, I don't mind to share the comparison of others aka webcam software and videophones, etc.
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I've heard of viable vision but they are not out are they???
Viable Vision is the computer based software for computer geeks to use. but an excellent software than Sorenson EvisionSL. But you should be techically minded if the VPAD ****s up, you can be more senstive to see if this can be fixed, I have two damaged VPADs at my place. The touchscreen is a BIG issue unfortunately. I am looking forward to experiement the MVP
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ok if vpad tochscreen screws up just plug in usb mouse to fix it ive used usb mini keyboard and usb mini mouse hooked up to a usb hub and it works
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ok if vpad tochscreen screws up just plug in usb mouse to fix it ive used usb mini keyboard and usb mini mouse hooked up to a usb hub and it works
Yes, I know and I used that sometimes - but my own VPAD works fine.
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you check this out: The Z videophone >> CSDVRS: The Z(tm) Family of Video Phones

Thanks for information but I realize it cost money to get one of those so I will stick with mvp as soon as I get enough purple people .
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What's more about the Z 340? You can have two batteries. For example, it dies out, you can quickly replace it with other battery while MVP has only one. That you have to send for a replacement battery, what are you going to do with "dead" MVP?

Okay, I know some of you say "why buy VP while others are free?" Let me explain the reason why I believe buying a VP is the best way to go. It's all about consumer's rights and power. It empowers you to tell VRS company with the product issues, also tell FCC how you feel or think because you OWN your VP. The VRS companies and FCC would listen to the buying consumers. Think about that. I would prefer to buy any deaf products so I have every right to make my decisions, complaints, suggestions and whatnot.

I don't think deaf people shouldn't take anything free for granted. It's my personal opinion. We should be equal to the hearing people who buys stuff as well.
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What's more about the Z 340? You can have two batteries. For example, it dies out, you can quickly replace it with other battery while MVP has only one. That you have to send for a replacement battery, what are you going to do with "dead" MVP?

Okay, I know some of you say "why buy VP while others are free?" Let me explain the reason why I believe buying a VP is the best way to go. It's all about consumer's rights and power. It empowers you to tell VRS company with the product issues, also tell FCC how you feel or think because you OWN your VP. The VRS companies and FCC would listen to the buying consumers. Think about that. I would prefer to buy any deaf products so I have every right to make my decisions, complaints, suggestions and whatnot.

I don't think deaf people shouldn't take anything free for granted. It's my personal opinion. We should be equal to the hearing people who buys stuff as well.
There you said it - true!

It's what Deaf Mortgage, few others, and I said the same thing, too.
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There you said it - true!

It's what Deaf Mortgage, few others, and I said the same thing, too.
Thanks. I hope others take the notice on this reason and understand why it's good way to buy the VPs.
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Thanks. I hope others take the notice on this reason and understand why it's good way to buy the VPs.
Yep! Unfortunately, many rather look for some freebies despite lack of some freedom that some overlooked. lol
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Yep! Unfortunately, many rather look for some freebies despite lack of some freedom that some overlooked. lol
Yeah I know but we won't give up. Once I get the Z and see if it's any worth it, I plan on vlogging about it and explain whatever I set my mind to. Hopefully, my message may come across them.
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What's more about the Z 340? You can have two batteries. For example, it dies out, you can quickly replace it with other battery while MVP has only one. That you have to send for a replacement battery, what are you going to do with "dead" MVP?

Okay, I know some of you say "why buy VP while others are free?" Let me explain the reason why I believe buying a VP is the best way to go. It's all about consumer's rights and power. It empowers you to tell VRS company with the product issues, also tell FCC how you feel or think because you OWN your VP. The VRS companies and FCC would listen to the buying consumers. Think about that. I would prefer to buy any deaf products so I have every right to make my decisions, complaints, suggestions and whatnot.

I don't think deaf people shouldn't take anything free for granted. It's my personal opinion. We should be equal to the hearing people who buys stuff as well.
I agree with you about this but you know there are some people who can't afford to buy one and pay monthly charge service to have those stuffs that some people who are working . For some who can't work can't afford this since gas price is going up , food prices is going up, pay rent , lights, cable , phones and dsl cost more now a days . So I dont' think some are taking free for granted or some who has job and decide to be greeding getting those for free and didnt' care . But I tell you think about that too for some who can't work and not getting enough money to support themselves and can't afford monthly charges when they already have dsl for vp . It really sucks but that is true facts for some .
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I already put my name on CSDVRS Z but o well, i can have both of them, mvp and z
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Z-ip340 offers only direct one to one for both VRS and caller(s) on the screen... MVP offers up to 8 callers on the screen. Yet most of the times people would use one to one, anyway. MVP is mere ideal for business(es) and/or organization(s), etc... also a group of friends to share chatting at the same time.
MVP - Z340
Here a link to give us better idea of IP-340's ability to do 4 people in screen. CSDVRS has not advertised this feature but I found this link to be informative about IP-340 ability to work. Check out the link.

You can be there inPerson - inPerson Conferencing

inPerson with Accessories VF0340 - inPerson Conferencing - You can be there inPerson

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http://inperson.creative.com/downloa...n_brochure.pdf

Now with this on the Creative.com website, I wonder if CSDVRS will take advantage of that service? Little said about this product.
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There you said it - true!

It's what Deaf Mortgage, few others, and I said the same thing, too.
I second to the statement with you and InsaneMisha.

It will empower us the freedom of choices.

Thanks to videogames, our technology performances by the videogame demands of speed and memories. We should do the same with videophone. The more we demand, the more freedom of choices we have.

If freebies, we are limit to choices of what is free. If for sale, we have freedom of what to buy and what to expect the next product to improve.

Kudo to CSDVRS to set Deaf to freedom of choices.
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I agree with you about this but you know there are some people who can't afford to buy one and pay monthly charge service to have those stuffs that some people who are working . For some who can't work can't afford this since gas price is going up , food prices is going up, pay rent , lights, cable , phones and dsl cost more now a days . So I dont' think some are taking free for granted or some who has job and decide to be greeding getting those for free and didnt' care . But I tell you think about that too for some who can't work and not getting enough money to support themselves and can't afford monthly charges when they already have dsl for vp . It really sucks but that is true facts for some .
There are no monthly charges set by VRS. Only on the product, not on services.

If one cannot afford to buy a product, it show priority of spending budget. I would rather to put my money on high speed internet and videophone than sit down and watch TV shows.

My internet service cost me $25 monthly for 8mbps/16mbps boost. If add Cable TV, $80... OUCH. I rather to keep internet and get my information in cheaper form than TV.

That is small example of what budget of luxury and needs.
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VPAD and MVP have flash light but Z IP-340 don't have flash light
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There are no better than those three.. Every systems are awesome. Every just have pros and cons, that's all. Nothing to be show off, ok ? Its too immature, really. They are fine and depend on individual's view and taste, that's all.
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Sorenson VP200 FREE
CSDVRS Z340 $99
HOVRS purple 3 $199
snapsvrs ojo FREE
visable vpad, vpad+ $99
d-link dvc1100 $79

every technology has been change alot improve!

The come out z340!!! fold half safe screen display, zvrs friendly service is top, wireless include battery that best carry around travel build in Wifi come with headset ear plug that top! size great and weight oh this one is the top!

Vpad+ doesn't come with nothing
doesn't have screen display safe
no battery, no headset, no keyboard or mouse
which you have to add them on your own

ojo too big cant carry with travel cant even fold and half

purple 3 good for school 2 in 1 videphone with 10 digital and windows xp
allow you check your email thru site or do your homework
doesn't have ext cdrw
doesnt have ear plug
you have to add your own

vpad+ two in 1 build videophone 10 digital and www site
doesn't have keyboard on display
doesn't have keyboard and mouse
doesn't have headset
you have to add

vp200 doesn't have keyboard but you have to use removed control
same as well with ojo

all I think so far z340 is the TOP simple videophone!!! and save my money I don't need buy cell phone
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I already purchased Z340 and I will be getting it next week. I am fully aware that Z340 have advantage/disadvantage.

The advantage is that extra battery is cheap to buy through ZVRS, $20, so that you can have backup in case if there are place to charge battery.. Menu is easy to get around and fast. I did figure most of it out without ZVRS Representative's help. The power adapter is interchangeable with 120v/12vdc itself, You can just slide off the 120v plug tip base and slide in 12vdc battery plug base. Apparently the power adapter automatically senses 120v/12vdc... No need to have two separate power adapters, just the plug itself which means less space in Z340 case.. Neato!!

The noticeable problem with Z340 that was already shown to me by ZVRS Representative at my house was when you leave Z340 running and if it goes into screensaver mode (sleep mode) on battery, When you plug it in the power jack on Z340, It shut down itself, it's the bug in software itself... So you will have to power it up again and let it boot up to main menu. But while its running on battery and while you are on P2P chat or VRS chat, you can plug it in when battery is low, it won't shut down. I don't mind at all cuz they are going to fix that issue in the future and Z340 will upgrade its software.

The MPV and Viable is slow getting around the menu as I played with it during Kansas City Deaf Expo at Bartle Hall. I can tell its obviously running on Linux cuz of typeface and color. It's the issue with processor speed, memory or both that causing everything getting around slow. I prefer fast menu jumping. I can tell why touch screen is nice to have but it's an issue for travel, must have case that came with it to protect its screen.

Z340 didn't need case. Just toss it in suitcase, glovebox, or comparment and go. But the Battery clip on back-bottom battery bay is not strong so best to remove battery before tossing it in. No damage to it.

Just that I like Z340 because it's rugged when closed.

I noticed that Z340 is built by Creative (Splashscreen shows while booting up)

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I already purchased Z340 and I will be getting it next week. I am fully aware that Z340 have advantage/disadvantage.

The advantage is that extra battery is cheap to buy through ZVRS, $20, so that you can have backup in case if there are place to charge battery.. Menu is easy to get around and fast. I did figure most of it out without ZVRS Representative's help. The power adapter is interchangeable with 120v/12vdc itself, You can just slide off the 120v plug tip base and slide in 12vdc battery plug base. Apparently the power adapter automatically senses 120v/12vdc... No need to have two separate power adapters, just the plug itself which means less space in Z340 case.. Neato!!

The noticeable problem with Z340 that was already shown to me by ZVRS Representative at my house was when you leave Z340 running and if it goes into screensaver mode (sleep mode) on battery, When you plug it in the power jack on Z340, It shut down itself, it's the bug in software itself... So you will have to power it up again and let it boot up to main menu. But while its running on battery and while you are on P2P chat or VRS chat, you can plug it in when battery is low, it won't shut down. I don't mind at all cuz they are going to fix that issue in the future and Z340 will upgrade its software.

The MPV and Viable is slow getting around the menu as I played with it during Kansas City Deaf Expo at Bartle Hall. I can tell its obviously running on Linux cuz of typeface and color. It's the issue with processor speed, memory or both that causing everything getting around slow. I prefer fast menu jumping. I can tell why touch screen is nice to have but it's an issue for travel, must have case that came with it to protect its screen.

Z340 didn't need case. Just toss it in suitcase, glovebox, or comparment and go. But the Battery clip on back-bottom battery bay is not strong so best to remove battery before tossing it in. No damage to it.

Just that I like Z340 because it's rugged when closed.

I noticed that Z340 is built by Creative (Splashscreen shows while booting up)

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I saw Z340 at deaf picnic event in Canton Ohio yesterday. it was nice but video image was Ok condition. MVP video image is better than it. no touch screen. no flashing light for incoming calls. I won't buy it. Purplecatty, I will wait to listen about pro and con of it.

CSDVRS manager told me that we could return our SnapVRS OJO to CSDVRS company if never use. They will send $100 rebate to us. I still cofused about it. It s more money than getting $25 refund from SnapVRS. I will contact her and will find out more info.
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