AllDeaf.com
Perks - Advertise - Spy - Who Quoted Me  
Go Back   AllDeaf.com > Deaf Community > Our World, Our Culture
LIKE AllDeaf on Facebook FOLLOW AllDeaf on Twitter
Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
Unread 04-14-2006, 08:39 PM   #1
Momoftwo
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Question Why did God pick people to be deaf?

If God created people to be deaf, then why did God pick people to be deaf? There are billions and billions people who are hearing in the world. There is only about 2 millions people who are deaf in the US or world. Just want to hear your feedbacks.....thanks!
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
All Deaf

Beitrag Sponsored Links

__________________
This advertising will not be shown in this way to registered members.
Register your free account today and become a member on AllDeaf.com
   
Unread 04-14-2006, 08:57 PM   #2
Cheri
Prayers for my dad.
 
Cheri's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ohio
Posts: 22,817
Likes: 0
Liked 5 Times in 5 Posts
I have no correct answer for you, I don't know why either, there are deaf, handicapp, people with disabilities, people with different race, blind, blind and deaf.
__________________
Avoid being a victim of a stroke, a stroke can happen to anyone at anytime. You will never know how devastating this could be until you had live through it. It affects everybody. So Support Stroke Awareness to find a cure and hope.
Cheri is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-14-2006, 09:03 PM   #3
zookeeper4321
Registered User
 
zookeeper4321's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: the planet gorgo
Posts: 445
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
That would be one of the many reasons I am a non-believer!
__________________
What happens if you're scared half to death twice?
zookeeper4321 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-14-2006, 09:42 PM   #4
Fabian
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Because he has a plan for you. He is the only one that knows the answer, instead of asking yourself that question, look at the million of people that are hearing yet not succesful. Because a person is Deaf does not means that we are a minor difference than the rest of the population, and if you have what it takes, being deaf is actually good because you can put that in good use to help others. I think is something we must accept not matter what.
Fabian is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-14-2006, 10:28 PM   #5
sr171soars
Registered User
 
sr171soars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 2,700
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
A deep question requires a deep answer.

I don't think any of us really understand the "Why". I think Fabian comes tanalizingly close to a very possible answer. I take it more in the vein that God allows such a condition (really any condition) due to sin nature in the world as opposed to "zapping" certain people to be deaf (Um...I (God) am going to make this and that person deaf today). But as Fabian alludes to, I can see where by allowing it, one can help others. Those who have been there can understand where somebody who has not or is now going through it.

As Fabian indicated, acceptance of self is extremely important.
sr171soars is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-14-2006, 11:11 PM   #6
pek1
Registered User
 
pek1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: When I survey the wondrous Cross . . .
Posts: 3,994
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to pek1 Send a message via Yahoo to pek1
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by zookeeper4321
That would be one of the many reasons I am a non-believer!
That makes as much sense as filing bankruptcy and blaming it on society for "making" you spend money you don't have! I'm hoh/deaf because that's how God made me! Would I change it if I could? Probably not! It appears like you're quite bitter; I sure hope not.
pek1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-14-2006, 11:22 PM   #7
deafdyke
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Trebekistan
Posts: 14,148
Likes: 42
Liked 12 Times in 8 Posts
Send a message via AIM to deafdyke
How do we know that people with disabilites are not somehow closer to God or whatever Presense May Be? B/c I have adapted to my difference and grown as a soul, perhaps I am closer to God? Traditional thinking is that disabilty equates with sin from a previous life......but you know, if you can adapt to your disabilty then it's not limiting!
deafdyke is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 12:59 AM   #8
Rose Immortal
Registered User
 
Rose Immortal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,254
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
My personal guess is, you may have a mission that is easier to carry out because you are deaf, not harder.

I do not mean "easier" or "harder" in terms of the amount of effort you must exert to accomplish it, but I would suggest your probability of success is higher because of that work.

I apply the same reasoning to any challenges people encounter in life, though--by working through them and learning in the process, one builds resilience, skills, and perspectives that aid in the success of one's particular mission in life.

I've known someone who was hoh that I thought this applied to...she rose to the challenges she dealt with (which included losing her mother at an early age to a drunk driver as well as some vision troubles) and was WAY more mature than other people I knew at her age. Even when I knew her, at 13 or so, I could tell she was going to really be headed places because of the strength of character she was developing...and she was already making her mark in the way she dealt with people and the things she had to say.

There are other factors that lead to strength of character, too, but I think a disability can be one of them.
Rose Immortal is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 01:03 AM   #9
VamPyroX
bloody phreak from hell
 
VamPyroX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: 40.18, 58.41
Posts: 34,398
Likes: 0
Liked 8 Times in 8 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to VamPyroX Send a message via AIM to VamPyroX Send a message via Yahoo to VamPyroX
Cuz God gambles. He rolls a dice and goes... "Hmm, I got a ONE. The next person will be born deaf." He rolls again... "Hmm, I got a THREE. The next person will be born blind."
__________________
Check out my city... CLICK HERE!
(If you've already visited yesterday, visit again today!)
VamPyroX is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 01:18 AM   #10
Rose Immortal
Registered User
 
Rose Immortal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,254
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by VamPyroX
Cuz God gambles. He rolls a dice and goes... "Hmm, I got a ONE. The next person will be born deaf." He rolls again... "Hmm, I got a THREE. The next person will be born blind."
I think one Albert Einstein would disagree...
Rose Immortal is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 01:23 AM   #11
Cousin Vinny
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 726
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by VamPyroX
Cuz God gambles. He rolls a dice and goes... "Hmm, I got a ONE. The next person will be born deaf." He rolls again... "Hmm, I got a THREE. The next person will be born blind."
At the slight risk of betraying my DnD heritage, perhaps God uses icosahedral dice for the human race.
Cousin Vinny is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 01:28 AM   #12
LisaMarie
Registered User
 
LisaMarie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: MN
Posts: 834
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
nobody can answer this only God can answer this. Same as why did God give people different personality, race, diablity, tree, plants, and so on!
LisaMarie is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 02:13 AM   #13
MorriganTait
Registered User
 
MorriganTait's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: California
Posts: 705
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to MorriganTait
I personally don't believe in pre-determination or that God assigns disabilities to people. No one is born "perfect" and we become less perfect as life goes on - but I just can't fathom a God who would deliberately give a person a disability of any sort.
MorriganTait is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 03:10 AM   #14
Audiofuzzy
Registered User
 
Audiofuzzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,715
Likes: 14
Liked 11 Times in 8 Posts
I am closest with Sylvia Browne theories on this one.

Sylvia says when we are entities in the other dimension, (the other side),
we choose who are we gonna be, what are we gonna experience etc. to enrich our spirit.
Because on the other side there is no negativity we have to incarnate into human bodies to experience what we wish to experience. We make detailed map of our life on Earth. Very detailed.

The more we learn from our experiences the closer to God we are. When we are wise enough we become part of God.

Something like that..
Fuzzy
Audiofuzzy is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 03:40 AM   #15
Liebling:-)))
Sussi *7.7.86 - 18.6.09*
 
Liebling:-)))'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Germany
Posts: 31,036
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Why blames God?
__________________
Liebling:-))) is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 04:29 AM   #16
hootster
Registered User
 
hootster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to hootster
Quote:
Originally Posted by MorriganTait
I personally don't believe in pre-determination or that God assigns disabilities to people. No one is born "perfect" and we become less perfect as life goes on - but I just can't fathom a God who would deliberately give a person a disability of any sort.
Yeah...I agree with ya.

I dont believe that God "assigns" certain disabilities to people.

Everyone, think about it. If he actually played a direct role in our lives, do you REALLY think that he wants us to suffer? If so, what a cruel joke.

That being said, I think that shit just happens. Its not cuz of God. Its cuz of genetics or diseases or whatever...

/Deist
//used to be a Catholic until saw through their bullshit.
hootster is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 04:40 AM   #17
MorriganTait
Registered User
 
MorriganTait's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: California
Posts: 705
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to MorriganTait
Quote:
Originally Posted by hootster
Everyone, think about it. If he actually played a direct role in our lives, do you REALLY think that he wants us to suffer? If so, what a cruel joke.
Why do you think a direct role equals omnipotence? God plays a direct role in my life, but he's not a puppet-master.
MorriganTait is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 04:46 AM   #18
hootster
Registered User
 
hootster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to hootster
Quote:
Originally Posted by pek1
That makes as much sense as filing bankruptcy and blaming it on society for "making" you spend money you don't have! I'm hoh/deaf because that's how God made me! Would I change it if I could? Probably not! It appears like you're quite bitter; I sure hope not.
Thats a poor analogy.

One has the choice to spend or not to spend money.

Being deaf is not a choice that one can make....
hootster is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 05:06 AM   #19
hootster
Registered User
 
hootster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Norman, OK
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to hootster
Quote:
Originally Posted by MorriganTait
Why do you think a direct role equals omnipotence? God plays a direct role in my life, but he's not a puppet-master.
Ok, I said that I was a deist. I think that explains it all.
hootster is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 04:04 PM   #20
Rose Immortal
Registered User
 
Rose Immortal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,254
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by hootster
I dont believe that God "assigns" certain disabilities to people.

Everyone, think about it. If he actually played a direct role in our lives, do you REALLY think that he wants us to suffer? If so, what a cruel joke.
I don't see God as wanting people to suffer. But, I think the nature of this world is such that if you aren't challenged in one particular way, you'll surely be challenged in another. Could be disability, could be social status, could be a whole host of things.
Rose Immortal is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 08:05 PM   #21
deafdyke
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Trebekistan
Posts: 14,148
Likes: 42
Liked 12 Times in 8 Posts
Send a message via AIM to deafdyke
Quote:
but I just can't fathom a God who would deliberately give a person a disability of any sort.
Morrigan, so why is disabilty something bad? It's not bad....it's just DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!!!! You have to undy that many of us don't see ourselves as "impaired" or lacking in something...it is just a normal variance of being human! Yeah, there are disabilites which are extremely handicapping and unabling in the worst way..... Like, there's a kid who was in my year at college..... He had high functioning autism/ profound Asperger's Syndrome, and he was IMPAIRED. Had absolutly NO friends whatsoever (and he thought that if someone acted halfway decent to him,(just basic interaction) they were his friend) had bizarre language (like he'd say stuff like "I'm so snoopy, and "I would like a hotburger") talked in a robotic voice, had bizzare preoccupations with the skin on his arms, did strange things like follow people around, and once even walked in on his RA when she was changing! Now Mark is definitly severely impaired no matter how you look at it.
Other things like mental retardation, quadupliegia etc ARE no doubt about it, impairing......but physcial disabilites can be seen as just a normal part of human functioning!
deafdyke is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 08:12 PM   #22
Teresh
Registered User
 
Teresh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,078
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to Teresh Send a message via MSN to Teresh Send a message via Yahoo to Teresh
Just a correction here: There are at least 500 million deaf and hard of hearing people on earth. At least 50% of them are dhh for reasons other than just getting old.

There are at least 30 million dhh people in the US, with about half being older and the other half being comparatively younger.

DHH people are not that rare on the global stage... For those of us who aren't dhh as a result of being older, we're about we're roughly 5% of the world's population, so it's not like we're really all that rare.
Teresh is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-15-2006, 08:29 PM   #23
MorriganTait
Registered User
 
MorriganTait's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: California
Posts: 705
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to MorriganTait
Quote:
Originally Posted by deafdyke
Morrigan, so why is disabilty something bad? It's not bad....it's just DIFFERENT!!!!!!!!!!!
DD - first of all, I didn't and don't say a disability is "bad" - it is simply something that adds to the challenge of living. Not one of us is born perfect in body. Some disabilities pose more of a challenge than others. If I think of hearing as one of many possibile abilities humans are normally born with, I cannot fathom a loving God arbitrarily "taking it away" just for - what? - what would God gain by deliberately disabling people?

I understand that deaf/hoh people have and still do expereince terrible discrimination, mockery, outright violence...and much of that is perpetuated with the word "DISABLED" attached to it. That makes the word much uglier than it is - because people use it to malign and abuse.

There was a time in my life when I was smacked across the mouth for using the word "dyke" in my house, but someone like you can reclaim the word and take the ugliness out of it...because you understand there is nothing "bad" about being attracted to people of the same gender, and you refuse to allow simple words to insult. And I am sure you can easily admit being homosexual sometimes makes life a bit more challenging.

Disabilities are hard to live with - but disabled people still live, and meet the challenges of each day, and are worthy, decent human beings, just like anyone else...

But I prefer to think of disabilities as part of the normal variation of human biology - not the deliberate act of a god. I wouldn't want to worship a god I thought of that way.
MorriganTait is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-16-2006, 12:33 AM   #24
deafdyke
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Trebekistan
Posts: 14,148
Likes: 42
Liked 12 Times in 8 Posts
Send a message via AIM to deafdyke
Quote:
If I think of hearing as one of many possibile abilities humans are normally born with, I cannot fathom a loving God arbitrarily "taking it away" just for - what? - what would God gain by deliberately disabling people?
Well you could say that about GLB people......Most humans are hetro, but there is a percentage that is GLB. Why would God choose to take away the abilty to have sex with a person of the opposite sex, or the abilty to make kids that way?
Besides, perhaps God gave us different strenghs in order to compensate for our lack of something.....I can't hear, yes but my eyesight is that of an eagle.
deafdyke is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-16-2006, 12:41 AM   #25
DeafMommy0407
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,659
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabian
Because he has a plan for you. He is the only one that knows the answer, instead of asking yourself that question, look at the million of people that are hearing yet not succesful. Because a person is Deaf does not means that we are a minor difference than the rest of the population, and if you have what it takes, being deaf is actually good because you can put that in good use to help others. I think is something we must accept not matter what.

AMEN!
DeafMommy0407 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-16-2006, 05:17 AM   #26
Buckdodgers
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fabian
Because he has a plan for you. He is the only one that knows the answer, instead of asking yourself that question, look at the million of people that are hearing yet not succesful. Because a person is Deaf does not means that we are a minor difference than the rest of the population, and if you have what it takes, being deaf is actually good because you can put that in good use to help others. I think is something we must accept not matter what.
Isnt god aware that person might get very mean,Bitter,Feel sorry for himself and jelous? Some people think deafness is a gift from GOD but what if they dont want that gift? To me a gift from GOD is a girl to be with you and love you and make babies for you to have.Now thats what i call a gift.A child or a pet are wonderful gifts,,Not Disability.I think Disability is punishment from GOD whatever your parents have done.Thats what Billy Graham said.Billy Graham said GOD doesnt punish you with pain you feel in your stomach or in your chest,your leg or even with an headache.He doesnt punish you with dieases or illeness.He simply punish you by giving your child with a disability.Now i question my parents what have they done a great sin why im deaf

Mom Told me she hasnt done anything against the bible thats a great sin dad doesnt know what he did. Well thats how GOD punishes you.

This is what he might be talking about.
  Reply With Quote
Unread 04-16-2006, 10:03 AM   #27
MsGiglz
Registered User
 
MsGiglz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: WVa
Posts: 4,255
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via AIM to MsGiglz Send a message via Yahoo to MsGiglz
God loves us and He have plans for us just like other people..

So.. stop complaining and wasting your time.. Go and Move on your life.. Enjoy your life and Thank God that he give you LIFE..

I count alot of blessings that he gave me.. I thanked him everyday..

I wouldnt ask for anything more ... being deaf.. I accepted..
MsGiglz is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-16-2006, 04:47 PM   #28
Rose Immortal
Registered User
 
Rose Immortal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,254
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckdodgers
I think Disability is punishment from GOD whatever your parents have done.Thats what Billy Graham said.Billy Graham said GOD doesnt punish you with pain you feel in your stomach or in your chest,your leg or even with an headache.He doesnt punish you with dieases or illeness.He simply punish you by giving your child with a disability.Now i question my parents what have they done a great sin why im deaf
What?! That is NOT what the Bible says about disabilities, not at all!

If you can show me a direct quote, with a source, where Billy Graham said that, I will be very sorely disappointed. But you will need to prove it to me with a reference first.

Remember the case where Jesus healed a man who has been born blind.

This comes from John 9:

Quote:
As he [Jesus] went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"

"Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. As long as it is day, we must do the work of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world."
Later on, this man is questioned very rudely by his peers about his miraculous healing. They treat him very coldly and this incident happens:

Quote:
Then they hurled insults at him and said, "You are this fellow's disciple! We are disciples of Moses! We know that God spoke to Moses, but as for this fellow, we don't even know where he comes from."

The man answered, "Now that is remarkable! You don't know where he comes from, yet he opened my eyes. We know that God does not listen to sinners. He listens to the godly man who does his will. Nobody has ever heard of opening the eyes of a man born blind. If this man were not from God, he could do nothing."

To this they replied, "You were steeped in sin at birth; how dare you lecture us!" And they threw him out.
This man that they condemn as having been born with worse sin than any of them, just because he's blind, is obviously the smartest man in the room when it comes to God.

Jesus then goes on to deplore spiritual blindness such as that shown by the people who condemned this man, saying that is the truly dangerous "disability", not any physical one.

Here is the entire chapter to read: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...9;&version=31;
Rose Immortal is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04-16-2006, 10:09 PM   #29
Buckdodgers
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Well thats what Billy Graham said in Dallas 1971 theres no link dated to that time.But thats what billy graham said about sin.
  Reply With Quote
Unread 04-16-2006, 11:11 PM   #30
sr171soars
Registered User
 
sr171soars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Raleigh, NC
Posts: 2,700
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Er...I side with RI on this. The Bible is consistent in respect to sin (by extension to disabilities). You are dealing with two different subjects here. Every person is only responsible for their own sin...not their father's, mother's, children's nor anybody else's.

I cite one such example from Deuteronomy 24:16 (NIV)...
16 Fathers shall not be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their fathers; each is to die for his own sin.

Now getting to the other aspect which is disabilities, as RI mentioned from John 9 that Jesus said that the blind man's parents "sin" had nothing to do with his blindness. It is even more absurd to think that a person who is blind from birth had done anything to contribute to his predictament.

It really goes all the way back to the problem of original sin by Adam. The world was perfect before that. After Adam's sin, the world was a different place and sin had an effect on all creation. Amongst such consequences, would be people who have disabilities of all kinds...no fault of their own.

This is different from a person participating in an activity that might have consequences whereas to impose a disability. An example would be listening to very loud noises (a walkman) having knowledge that it could damage your hearing. In this case, it would be the person's fault as it is well known about such dangers.
sr171soars is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:25 PM.


Join AllDeaf on Facebook!    Follow us on Twitter!

AllDeaf proudly supports St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

Copyright © 2002-2014, AllDeaf.com. All Rights Reserved.