The new business... Cannabis

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The times they are a changing.... Kerching! Goes the cash register.
Alaska has just gone legal for cannabis. Already there is a surge of entrepreneurs eager to cash in. It is still a ways before stores open and the legal herb is changing hands.
Already the divide is clear. The politicians are all over it trying to stop it. The people who think the politicians they elected work for them are insistent and determined. There are a lot of us on the sidelines watching the action.

I cannot help but think about the moral aspects. Hypocrisy is firmly built into human nature so the clarity is of course not clear. I have seen the mindblowing destructiveness of alcohol all my life. For me to sell it legally would still to my mind be a questionable act with a place high on the guiltmeter.

Say by pure unplanned fluke you own one of the best locations in your state to sell the new product. Would you feel moral qualms about having a shop that abides by the laws and restrictions and sells cannabis?
 
I have NO problem with it...lol
 
I would jump in business, I love potheads, they were generally cool people, never ran unto trouble with stoners, tired of loser alcoholics and hard dope fiends.

Temptation relocation to Colorado is very high for me and my wife. I would rather stay here when NY finally legalize cannabis and I could open cafe like business catering pothead with back room access to 21+ with membership.
 
Smiles... It is a shock to my brain to look at it as legal now. Wow! The people spoke...smiles
 
Washington and Oregon are both legal now with Washington leading the way. It will be interesting to go see what is happening and see how the customers act.
 
Not just that, but there is few other areas I have noticed that FEDS may be forced to change... by DOJ... Decision whether placing Cannabis on schedule 1 drug is constitutional or not. Hearing done just few days before halloween.

I predict legalization on Fed level will be within a year from now.
 
im teaching my freind who lives in Oregon how to grow pot! lol
< were growing way back in the mid 1990's lol
 
The pohibition of cannabis made it very popular. I am curious what this new effort of legalize and tax will do to the situation. Here in Alaska small quantity of plants and home use only was already legal by state judicial determination.

I do not use because of many reasons that are more about other people than my own wishes. When I was in chemo years ago it was an awesome help. The best part was I could easily regulate my own intake to help myself.
Then there is vacation time and retirement. Why shouldn't adults have legal access to an herb that puts a smile on their face? There is a whole lot of worse things out there than that.
My main focus here though is the morality of legally selling it.
On a scale with evil on one side a good on the other, which side weighs the most when it comes to the question of consequences?
 
Curious about the result of legalize weeds? Easy, check on Colorado, crimes still going down hill, government is raking money, any "refeer madness" yet? Zip, none, nada, nothing. The fear of halloween treat laced with Cannabis has been proven overblown... Hospital true business report # of patients admitted for cannabis overdoses: Again, Zero, Zip, Nada, nothing. Not even a number beside 0. I am sure other drugs, and alcohol related patients showed up at emergency room. Again so far ZERO for Cannabis user.

There have been government researching showing that those chronic cannabis smoker were doing just fine! Also, they mentioned that prohibition on Cannabis is not even justified, but won't say should legalize them. :hmm:

Heres link, two of them

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/10/health/pot-and-your-brain/index.html?iref=allsearch
(CNN) -- Using marijuana at an early age could have long-term consequences on your brain and it may even lower your IQ, according to a new study in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
Researchers found that compared to nonusers, people who smoked marijuana starting as early as age 14 have less brain volume, or gray matter, in the orbitofrontal cortex. That's the area in the front of your brain that helps you make decisions.
"The younger the individual started using, the more pronounced the changes," said Dr. Francesca Filbey, the study's principal investigator and associate professor at the School of Behavioral and Brain Sciences at the University of Texas at Dallas. "Adolescence is when the brain starts maturing and making itself more adult-like, so any exposure to toxic substances can set the course for how your brain ends up."
Photos: History of marijuana in America Photos: History of marijuana in America
Researchers also found increased brain connectivity in chronic users. Connectivity, when different parts of the brain connect to each other, is important for adaptive learning abilities. It also helps your mind make associations. This wiring of the brain starts to deteriorate with chronic marijuana use.
Source: NYC marijuana policy to change Colorado's booming marijuana industry
"Too much or too little of anything isn't good. There needs to be an equal balance," said Filbey.
There were 48 marijuana users enrolled in this study. All started smoking between age 14 and 30. The average age of the person enrolled in the study was 18. On average they used marijuana three times a day. Most said they had been using it for 10 years, although some had been smoking pot for three decades.
Scientists compared this group to a group of 62 nonusers of the same basic age and gender. All gave urine samples. All had an MRI scan and all went through IQ testing.
Filbey said the people who regularly used marijuana had IQ's that were five points lower, on average, than the nonusers in the study, although there is no definitive proof that marijuana alone was to blame for the lower IQ.
"While our study does not conclusively address whether any or all of the brain changes are a direct consequence of marijuana use, these effects do suggest that these changes are related to age of onset and duration of use," Filbey said.
Dr. Susan Weiss, associate director for Scientific Affairs at the National Institute on Drug Abuse said the study provides more strong evidence about the dangers of marijuana.
"This is a complex and interesting study that adds to the growing body of evidence that heavy marijuana use, particularly at a young age, is linked to significant adverse brain changes," said Weiss. "This study showed that the orbitofrontal cortex, an area involved in reward, decision making and motivation, was smaller in heavy users and that other brain circuits were enhanced, likely to compensate for the diminished function in that region. Further prospective studies are needed to clarify this, but these mounting scientific findings certainly challenge the widespread belief that marijuana is a harmless drug."
The National Institute on Drug Abuse helped fund the study.
Mason Tvert, director of communications for the Marijuana Policy Project, said marijuana use does not cause IQ loss.
"Once again, researchers have failed to find any conclusive evidence that marijuana use causes mental health problems. The researchers note their findings are nonconclusive, that they might be skewed by other factors, and that effects, if any, could be temporary, Tvert said. "The study doesn't justify keeping marijuana illegal, nor does it say anything about making it legal. There remains no doubt that marijuana is far less harmful than alcohol to the brain and to the rest of the body. The possibility that marijuana might have some harm for some people -- but might not -- is not a good reason to keep arresting and punishing hundreds of thousands of adults simply for using it."
Filbey next plans to do long-term observational studies with people who do not use marijuana to see if there are underlying factors like pre-existing conditions before exposure to THC, the psychoactive ingredient in cannabis, that could account for some of these effects.
 
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/11/01/halloween-marijuana-fears/18339489/

DENVER – Fears that trick-or-treaters here might end up with marijuana-laced candy on Halloween appear to have been overblown: Children's Hospital Colorado reported no instances of accidental pot poisonings from Friday night.

The Denver Police Department last month warned parents to be on the lookout for marijuana candies, in large part because they are virtually identical in appearance to candies available from grocery stores. And some "edibles" makers simply buy commercially available candies and spray or inject them with marijuana oil.

While edibles have been available for years under Colorado's medical marijuana system, the Jan. 1 legalization of recreational sales has spurred an explosion in their consumption. Some stores report that 40% of their sales come from edibles, with the rest from marijuana flower or "bud," hash and other THC-containing products.


USA TODAY
Marijuana-infused candy raises Colo. Halloween concerns
Before Halloween, the marijuana industry scoffed at parents' fears and said the vast majority of users are responsible adults who would never actually do something so stupid as to confuse the two or deliberately hand out expensive pot candy. Afterward, they mourned the deaths of multiple trick-or-treaters killed by vehicles on Friday night.


USA TODAY
3 trick-or-treaters killed in hit-and-run
"While it is of course great to feel vindicated as an industry that no kids were given marijuana candy illegally, we are first and foremost members of our own communities – we are neighbors, families and friends. As such, when I woke up to check the news this morning to make sure that our worst fears had not somehow materialized, there was no sense of relief, but rather it was sadness for all of the horrible auto accidents that had occurred overnight," said Joe Hodas, a spokesman for the Denver-based edibles manufacturer Dixie Elixrs.


USA TODAY
Colo. eyes ban on marijuana 'edibles'
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration reports Halloween is consistently one of the top three days for pedestrian injuries and fatalities because of the increased number of young people out trick-or-treating and partygoers who could be impaired behind the wheel. In 2012, almost half of all Halloween crash deaths involved a drunk driver, compared with 31% on an average day that year. And 28% of Halloween crash deaths were pedestrians, compared with 14% on an average day, the NTSB said.

Washington state, the only other state with legal recreational marijuana, has much tougher edibles regulations than Colorado, which is now tightening them on orders from state lawmakers.

Another proof that "Refeer madness" is just old fashioned myth based on flawed scientific method set by government only to get them illegal. Criminalized by flawed tests, shame on those people that lead ultra expensive, fruitless war on drug.
 
It is interesting to me how studies have so many variables in how conclusions can be drawn.
The meat and potatoes of the studies are left out. For instance is it even possible to accurately make the brain measurements that are used as a leg of the argument. Same with the IQ and determination of abiity to think and the statements about brain "wiring". I have too many questions after reading about the study.
We live in a time when kids in all school ages are taking legal medications that really no one knows the ultimate consequences of.
Chronic is a word used like it defines something. It is wide open to misuse.
Is a moral aspect even part of 2014 thinking?
The gunshops for instance sell weapons that kill. Is there a moral aspect to the selling of weapons? Not every one uses these weapons carelessly but many do.
Does morality have value now? We all know selling certain things does have a moral aspect.

Our last three pesidents smoked cannabis in their growing up experience. Do I see judgement problems amongst them? If I do does it actually mean anything? To my mind a person would have to be crazy to take on the job. Maybe cannabis use indicates presidential potential?
To sell or not to sell that is the question. I kind of like the idea of the presidents of the future being legal when they shrink their brains and rob themselves of IQ points.
 
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