Should we move Thanksgiving (US) to January!

And I think a major gripe is them not allowing their employees to actually have a holiday off!
 
Jane B. said:
And I think a major gripe is them not allowing their employees to actually have a holiday off!
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A lot of those employees will have plenty of time off, starting around January 5th.
 
dereksbicycles said:
Take this one for example...

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It seems like they make money selling Christmas things year round. If they can do it year round, why cannot Target do it over Thanksgivings? Not saying it's right to sell Christmas item and over shadow Thanksgivings, but everyone has freedom to run business the way they see it. This is USA---the land of Freedom!!

I understand people may not like the rush of Christmas shopping over Thanksgivings. What if stores were banned from shopping Christmas items over Thanksgivings and were allowed to sell Christmas items over Christmas only? Well, then there will be long, LONG lines of people who need to wait because they can shop for Christmas over Christmas only.

At least, stores are starting to hire holidays help now. Good for people who need money now. I'm sure people who get hired for seasonal help right now are thankful. I realize that not everyone will agree with selling Christmas items over Thanksgivings. I don't know if I am for or against this, but I look for the positive here. I'm sure many people who have nothing to do over Thanksgivings are happy to have something to do.

If people don't like Christmas decorations over Thanksgivings, trust me, they can find other place to shop. Yeah, Christmas decoration are pretty to look at. Even if a person does not shop for Christmas, they may shop because they want to enjoy the camaraderie of Christmas and see decorations.
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I concur. I personally don't like the concept of commercialism of Christmas, but I don't see any difference because you get to see stores that still sell Halloween stuff AFTER Halloween ends. You still see all sort of different holiday items all year around. Heck, There's even Christmas in July sales. That's what makes captialism thrive to have all sort of kind of sales.

Yet, I think Thanksgiving should stay where it is because it is at the right timing when the harvest ends, the weather starts to turn chilly/cold (well, here it does), and it would just feel too weird to have it at any other time of the year lol
 
Jolie77 said:
Yet, I think Thanksgiving should stay where it is because it is at the right timing when the harvest ends, the weather starts to turn chilly/cold (well, here it does), and it would just feel too weird to have it at any other time of the year lol
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Right, it is perfectly blended with pumpkins (pumpkin pie, umm) and falling colorful leaves on a cloudy, chilly day. That makes me feel traditionally good.
 
Jane B. said:
And I think a major gripe is them not allowing their employees to actually have a holiday off!
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So, nobody is against people being able to work, rather, the issue is people actually working? And according to this, the company should be paying for them not working, correct? IMO, not going to happen. In fact, it would just mean that companies would start hiring exactly one day after Thanksgiving, thereby the income of those hired would decrease.

It's an admirable thought, but nobody is going to give you something for nothing, unless someone else is paying. Any volunteers(willing to pay)?
 
dereksbicycles said:
Take this one for example...

Christmas ornaments, lights, decorations and trees | Bronners.com | Christmas lights, personalized ornaments, artificial trees, Nativity scenes, Christmas decorations, Christmas stockings and hangars

It seems like they make money selling Christmas things year round. If they can do it year round, why cannot Target do it over Thanksgivings? Not saying it's right to sell Christmas item and over shadow Thanksgivings, but everyone has freedom to run business the way they see it. This is USA---the land of Freedom!!

I understand people may not like the rush of Christmas shopping over Thanksgivings. What if stores were banned from shopping Christmas items over Thanksgivings and were allowed to sell Christmas items over Christmas only? Well, then there will be long, LONG lines of people who need to wait because they can shop for Christmas over Christmas only.

At least, stores are starting to hire holidays help now. Good for people who need money now. I'm sure people who get hired for seasonal help right now are thankful. I realize that not everyone will agree with selling Christmas items over Thanksgivings. I don't know if I am for or against this, but I look for the positive here. I'm sure many people who have nothing to do over Thanksgivings are happy to have something to do.

If people don't like Christmas decorations over Thanksgivings, trust me, they can find other place to shop. Yeah, Christmas decoration are pretty to look at. Even if a person does not shop for Christmas, they may shop because they want to enjoy the camaraderie of Christmas and see decorations.
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I can't shopping during the holidays, people are horrible when driving where I live . They will not stop to let a person made a turn around here. There is no good fellowship on the roads around here , it's road race to get no where in a hurry!
 
VacationGuy234 said:
So, nobody is against people being able to work, rather, the issue is people actually working? And according to this, the company should be paying for them not working, correct? IMO, not going to happen. In fact, it would just mean that companies would start hiring exactly one day after Thanksgiving, thereby the income of those hired would decrease.

It's an admirable thought, but nobody is going to give you something for nothing, unless someone else is paying. Any volunteers(willing to pay)?
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If you want to work on Thanksgiving or Xmas you need to find a job that expect you to works on holidays. I had to work on a holiday as a health aide
and I did not mind working on Xmas as it is not my holiday and I also worked on Thanksgiving day . If you do not work on a holiday you should not get paid , I did not get paid overtime working a holiday unless I worked longer 40 hours that week.
 
VacationGuy234 said:
So, nobody is against people being able to work, rather, the issue is people actually working? And according to this, the company should be paying for them not working, correct? IMO, not going to happen. In fact, it would just mean that companies would start hiring exactly one day after Thanksgiving, thereby the income of those hired would decrease.

It's an admirable thought, but nobody is going to give you something for nothing, unless someone else is paying. Any volunteers(willing to pay)?
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The part I added the bold to is not correct! I don't know of anyone in this thread that said an hourly worker should be paid for a day they are not working. Of course, there will be times when, especially with a union contract, certain paid holidays are part of the contract.

In real life I have known someone that would have rather had an unpaid full day off but was required to work - retail on Thanksgiving Day.
 
It's all about bottom line those days. I wish it was not. It's like David vs. Goliath, you know. If Target and Walmart are decorating Christmas items for Thanksgivings and do make sales, then small businesses will feel like they need to make those decorations, just so that they can compete with Target and Walmart. I'm sure some small businesses may say, "ok, let those big companies decorate Christmas items over Thanksgivings. We can wait". However, most won't wait. They've to compete year round.
 
dereksbicycles said:
It's all about bottom line those days. I wish it was not. It's like David vs. Goliath, you know. If Target and Walmart are decorating Christmas items for Thanksgivings and do make sales, then small businesses will feel like they need to make those decorations, just so that they can compete with Target and Walmart. I'm sure some small businesses may say, "ok, let those big companies decorate Christmas items over Thanksgivings. We can wait". However, most won't wait. They've to compete year round.
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Yes, yes. Two choices: competition or bankruptcy.
 
Jane B. said:
The part I added the bold to is not correct! I don't know of anyone in this thread that said an hourly worker should be paid for a day they are not working. Of course, there will be times when, especially with a union contract, certain paid holidays are part of the contract.

In real life I have known someone that would have rather had an unpaid full day off but was required to work - retail on Thanksgiving Day.
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OK. Lets me put it this way, not requiring them to work isn't logical if you have a company that wants to be open to make money at those times. How do you do that and give employees the choice to stay home?

That person who would rather have the day off really would rather have a job that doesn't require he/she to work on holidays and they exist. As WDYS stated.

I worked a job for years that I had to work holidays and hated it(same position as you have on this thread), but that was the job and when I changed it I was a lot happier.

I feel your pain, but the solution isn't changing the law, it's changing the job.
 
Foxrac said:
If all Native Indians went extinct so I won't be here today. :(

I'm 30% Native Indian since my father is more than 50% Native Indian.

The land that where Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee located, used to had Choctaw and Cherokee until white settlers and the government removed them. I didn't like at all. :mad:
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Journal of Statistics Education, v14n3: Mary S. Fowler and Joseph B. Kadane

some Native Americans reservations has oil on them and there are dispute going on between the Native Americans and government over the royally . I read when the government realize that there where oil on some Native Americans reservations the government relocated the Native Americans to another reservation so the government could keep all the profit. I can't recall when I read this it was some some time ago. I do believe the government would do this to the Native Americans.
 
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