'Accountant of Auschwitz' Oskar Groening Set to Stand Trial

hoichi said:
This isnt suprising..the nazis where radicaly opposed to cbristianity. Why also using it when.it.suited them.
The nazis were lesdership wise anyway were neo germanic pagan by adherence realliy..or their ideas.on what that should be..
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You might have misunderstood why I said what I did. There are those revisionists who claim that the Nazis were Christians - they usually have an agenda. It is usually an atheist backed hate fueled agenda targeting Christians for everything that is wrong with the world. They will not target Muslims, ironically enough, or even Jews. Just Christians.

The Nazis were Socialist Democrats that promised free healthcare. They were the worker's union. They were the atheists. They were not conservative right wingers.
 
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You might have misunderstood why I said what I did. There are those revisionists who claim that the Nazis were Christians - they usually have an agenda. It is usually an atheist backed hate fueled agenda targeting Christians for everything that is wrong with the world. They will not target Muslims, ironically enough, or even Jews. Just Christians.

The Nazis were Socialist Democrats that promised free healthcare. They were the worker's union. They were the atheists. They were not conservative right wingers.
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Let's be clear, the Nazis weren't Christian. They killed, Catholics, 6 million Jews, nearly eliminated the Romani people, 20 million Russians, the disabled and even their own children who were not "perfect." There's nothing Christian about that and I doubt even Hitler attended Church. None of them did....it was yet another excuse for their twisted logic.

Laura
 
if you go to Ann Frank house (I have)or Auscwitz you find they remembering the holocost but very much thinking and asking people alive today this is what happens when no tolerance..Hochi if you can visit Ann Frank or the concentration camps...I garentee you feel different after looking around, there place to think with lots of lit to read not just about ww2 but what going on now and our power to change it
 
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caz12 said:
if you go to Ann Frank house (I have)or Auscwitz you find they remembering the holocost but very much thinking and asking people alive today this is what happens when no tolerance..Hochi if you can visit Ann Frank or the concentration camps...I garentee you feel different after looking around, there place to think with lots of lit to read not just about ww2 but what going on now and our power to change it
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This has no bearing on anything i said. Re read my posts...
its about history not.emotion.
 
Lau2046 said:
Let's be clear, the Nazis weren't Christian. They killed, Catholics, 6 million Jews, nearly eliminated the Romani people, 20 million Russians, the disabled and even their own children who were not "perfect." There's nothing Christian about that and I doubt even Hitler attended Church. None of them did....it was yet another excuse for their twisted logic.

Laura
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Oh, I absolutely know that the Nazis were not Christian.

That was what I was pointing out.

It didn't stop the Nazis from using Christianity, however, to recruit for their party. http://press.princeton.edu/titles/8820.html
Was Jesus a Nazi? During the Third Reich, German Protestant theologians, motivated by racism and tapping into traditional Christian anti-Semitism, redefined Jesus as an Aryan and Christianity as a religion at war with Judaism. In 1939, these theologians established the Institute for the Study and Eradication of Jewish Influence on German Religious Life. In The Aryan Jesus, Susannah Heschel shows that during the Third Reich, the Institute became the most important propaganda organ of German Protestantism, exerting a widespread influence and producing a nazified Christianity that placed anti-Semitism at its theological center.
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hoichi said:
Isnt there a thread about this?
My opinion is to forgive, itS beeN 70 years. forgivness will heal more.then retribution...
It Understand few hold this.opinion...
Cool.
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But she explained: ‘As long as we understand my forgiveness that the victim has a right to be free, you cannot be free from what was done to you unless you remove from your shoulder the daily burden of pain and anger and forgive the Nazis – not because they deserve it, but because I deserve it.
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Corrie Ten Boom wrote an account about how she had to forgive the Nazi that murdered her sister (her sister was killed right in front of her). She said that it was the most difficult challenge she ever had to face in her life.
 
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Corrie Ten Boom wrote an account about how she had to forgive the Nazi that murdered her sister (her sister was killed right in front of her). She said that it was the most difficult challenge she ever had to face in her life.
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Indeed it must of been good for her..i think thats one pointthe entire nation after 70 years can grasp on.
One reason why i think forgiving this 93 year old would be the best ideal. wont happen obviously,
 
so is 9/11 many people say leave that in the past I not one of them but have to wonder would IS be here if revenge not been sought I think not. but been something
 
For those sencere, and where unaware of jews betraying jews, and jewish leaders betraying their own people..here is a wiki link to th judenrat.
While reading this another book i read was mentioned. Hannah arendst eichman in jeursulem. ItS generally accepted that the nazi were abke to have jews betray jews during the nightmare, afterall to be ble to hsve s genocide onbsuch an industrial.scale would require not juty brute force but also cooperation by those seeking to save their skin aT the expense of betraying others...
Now there is the argument that the judenrat didnt effect the holocaust..but im not convinced.by tusy idea..given what the judenrat was tasked to do and whayvthey actually did. Turn jews iver to the gestapo, rst jess out, keeo risistance.minimal...so on
Sucks...
But facts are facts...
 
hoichi said:
Im half way through this book.
http://gupress.gallaudet.edu/bookpage/DPHEbookpage.html

Deaf people in hitlers euruope...its s must read. For all us Deaf..in my opinion..
and it does look t the holocaust...and us in it..
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I took the class under the instruction of Dr. Donna Ryan. She passed away not too long ago.

I also took part in a foreign exchange program to Germany and stayed with the senior aged deaf children of Wehrmacht Officers. I also got to meet and talk with deaf survivors of Auschwitz and Bergen Belsen. I was also a member of the Holocaust Scolars Consortium at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.
 
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I took the class under the instruction of Dr. Donna Ryan. She passed away not too long ago.

I also took part in a foreign exchange program to Germany and stayed with the senior aged deaf children of Wehrmacht Officers. I also got to meet and talk with deaf survivors of Auschwitz and Bergen Belsen. I was also a member of the Holocaust Scolars Consortium at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.
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Thats all wicked....
 
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