Schiavo to Undergo Autopsy to End Debate -- Lawyer

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Schiavo to Undergo Autopsy to End Debate -- Lawyer

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PINELLAS PARK, Fla. (Reuters) - The husband of brain-damaged Florida woman Terri Schiavo has ordered an autopsy after she dies to silence allegations his plan to cremate her body is aimed at hiding something, his lawyer said on Monday.

As supporters of Schiavo's parents took their fight to prolong her life to Washington 10 days after her feeding was stopped, Michael Schiavo's lawyer, George Felos, said her pulse had become "thready" and she had not passed urine for a while -- a possible sign of approaching death.

He said Michael Schiavo, who has been pitted against the parents in a seven-year legal conflict over whether to allow Schiavo to die, requested an official autopsy to show the "massive" extent of the brain damage she suffered in 1990.

"We didn't think it was appropriate to talk about an autopsy prior to Mrs. Schiavo's death," Felos told reporters outside his law office in Dunedin, Florida.

"But because claims have been made by, I guess, opponents of carrying out her wishes that there was some motive behind the cremation of Mrs. Schiavo we felt it was necessary to make that announcement today."

Disagreement over the planned cremation rather than the full burial demanded by Schiavo's Roman Catholic parents has been a subplot to the long legal battle.

The fate of the woman, who has been in a persistent vegetative state since suffering cardiac arrest, has become a cause for Christian conservatives and drawn in Congress, President Bush and his brother, Florida Gov. Jeb Bush.

State courts have accepted testimony from Michael Schiavo and others that she did not want to be kept alive artificially, but her parents, Bob and Mary Schindler, disagree, and maintain she tries to communicate with them.

Pressured by the Christian right, Congress passed a special law that allowed the Schindlers to take their case to federal court, and President Bush cut short a vacation to sign it.

The effort proved in vain as court after court -- all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court -- rejected a flurry of petitions since the feeding tube was disconnected on March 18.

Nevertheless, supporters of Bob and Mary Schindler again appealed for federal or state intervention.

"This is about the soul of our nation, the soul of our church," said Michael McMonagle, spokesman for the Pro-Life Union of Southeastern Pennsylvania, as around two dozen protesters gathered in a park across from the White House.

Outside the hospice in Pinellas Park, Florida, where Schiavo is being cared for, the protesters were dismissive of Michael Schiavo's plans for an autopsy.

"It's a way to cover his behind," said Randall Terry, an anti-abortion activist speaking for the Schindlers.

Bob Schindler, who has at times asserted his daughter was in her final hours and at others maintained that it was not too late to intervene, said earlier she was "fighting like hell."

Doctors said when the feeding tube was disconnected that she would likely last for up to two weeks without sustenance.

Schindler said Schiavo was beginning to look like a Nazi "concentration camp" survivor and voiced a fear that hospice staff might try to hasten her end by giving her an overdose of morphine.

"We do not hasten death in any way, nor do we prolong life. That is not our role," said Louise Cleary, a spokeswoman for the Hospice of the Florida Suncoast.

Felos said Schindler's fears were misplaced. He said Schiavo was not on a morphine drip but had received two "minuscule" 5 milligram doses of the opiate since March 18.

He said he visited her on Monday and she looked peaceful and calm.

"Mrs. Schiavo's pulse is described by the nursing staff as thready. Also she has had no urine output since last night," Felos said. Doctors say a lack of urine would be an early indication that Schiavo's kidneys are shutting down.

"I saw no evidence of any bodily discomfort whatsoever. It doesn't appear from at least me seeing her, and you know I'm not a doctor by any means, but it doesn't appear her death is imminent but it's just impossible to say," Felos said.
 
Banjo said:
My guess?

They'll find nothing.


Never know Banjo, I believe an autopsy should be done to everyone, just in case they recover something they never knew. IMO :)
 
Simple is... let them autopsy and to find what wrong why affect brain dead and etc etc... Let angylist brain cell and blood drawn plus everything name it... until find it out what the answer is....

If.. Michael refuse allows autopsy Terri's... That mean sumth'n up to what wrong w/Michael hiding! Peroid..

No need flaming here..

Throw my 2 cents!
 
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Cheri said:
Never know Banjo, I believe an autopsy should be done to everyone, just in case they recover something they never knew. IMO :)

After 15 years?

I doubt it.
 
I think an autopsy should be performed to determine if Terry was suffering from a real disease or Terry was suffering from abuses from her husband.
 
Oh my dear! I think it's not necassary to have an autopsy :| because Terri was in kind of nursing home, hosptails etc. for 15 years.

Interesting because I alway thought that autopsy is not acceptance to Roman Catholic reglious. I was raised by my Roman Catholic Grandparents since I was 14 years old who have strong beleifs. Honestly, I must say that Roman Catholic reglious are very closed mind people. Excuse me for saying this because I saw it myself through my Grandparents and their friends.

Normally Roman Catholic parents would against their children to marry their partner from different beliefs. Why can't Terri's parents do SOMETHING when they learns that Michael is not Roman Catholic in first place?

The parents can't do anything to against Michael's wish to cremate his wife instead of bury her because Terri IS Michael's wife, period. :|


They did operated Terri's brain few months later after collasped in 1990 but it doesn't work success on her. :|
 
Liebling:-))) said:
Oh my dear! I think it's not necassary to have an autopsy :| because Terri was in kind of nursing home, hosptails etc. for 15 years.

Why not? They found a body that has been dead for over 23 yrs and they still recovered what happend to that person no matter how long it has been.



The parents can't do anything to against Michael's wish to cremate his wife instead of bury her because Terri IS Michael's wife, period.


What about Terri's right to have a reglious? Even through she was raised Catholic, Michael should respect her reglious even if it against creamated. But he choose to have her body creamated that is not respecting his wife's reglious.
 
I was wondering why didn't Michael allow MRI and PETA Scan to take place while Terri was ALIVE to prove whether she did have damaged brain? Cat Scans aren't good enough. I just found it odd that Michael wanted to wait until Terri is dead to have autopsy performed to see if she is really in PVS. Yeah, it could be he's hiding something, but I really don't know.
 
Toonces said:
I was wondering why didn't Michael allow MRI and PETA Scan to take place while Terri was ALIVE to prove whether she did have damaged brain? Cat Scans aren't good enough. I just found it odd that Michael wanted to wait until Terri is dead to have autopsy performed to see if she is really in PVS. Yeah, it could be he's hiding something, but I really don't know.


Yes, Hoping that the autopsy will provide answers to what caused Terri's condition, so in the meanwhile, I guess we have to wait 6 weeks for the results. :thumb:
 
I was wondering why didn't Michael allow MRI and PETA Scan to take place while Terri was ALIVE to prove whether she did have damaged brain? Cat Scans aren't good enough. I just found it odd that Michael wanted to wait until Terri is dead to have autopsy performed to see if she is really in PVS. Yeah, it could be he's hiding something, but I really don't know.

Simple, a CAT scan was all they needed to know that her brain was badly damaged. There's no point of scanning her again with MRI or PET. I'm sure you have seen her CAT scan pics... what more do you need? You think you'll find something different with MRI or PET scan? No. The conclusion remains the same no matter which scanner is used.

Also, MRI isn't compatible with her brain since she has the implant.

-jeff
 
Using an MRI on Terri would have had the effect of using her experimental electronic brain implants as a blender through her head. Would you have wanted that?

Oops, there goes the rest of her brain stem, her eyes, her ears, blood gushing from her eyes, nose and mouth... because ignorant people like you want an MRI for no reason other than "the Schindlers tell us so!"

Yeah, NO!
 
I don't know...I always think that MRI proves more detailed, 3-D images (sometimes in color) than CAT scans. I still think Terri could have MRI just to make sure. And yes, I've known that Terri had implants in her head...but the question is, why were they left in there for such a long time? They've been in her brain since mid-1990's and Michael never bothered to have them removed. It just struck me as odd that he deliberately left them inside her head. :confused:

Also, I'm not sure how many Cat Scans they had taken of Terri's head, but I had an impression they only have one single cat scan and it has not been updated for years. When Michael and his lawyer Felos said that Terri's brain had became liquified, I was like, "How can you be sure? Where are follow-up scans to show the progressive stages of her brain?" That's why I thought Terri should have an up-to-date image of her brain (while she was alive) to get a better idea of the damage to her brain.

Anyway, all of this are useless now that she's gone.
 
Toonces said:
I'm not sure how many Cat Scans they had taken of Terri's head, but I had an impression they only have one single cat scan and it has not been updated for years. When Michael and his lawyer Felos said that Terri's brain had became liquified, I was like, "How can you be sure? Where are follow-up scans to show the progressive stages of her brain?" That's why I thought Terri should have an up-to-date image of her brain (while she was alive) to get a better idea of the damage to her brain.

They did a CAT scan on her brain back in 2002.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7328639/
 
The autopsy was ordered by the Medical Examiner. Michael and his lawyer had no say so in the matter. Neither did Terri's parents. The ME has the last say. The lawyer announced it after the M.E. made his ruling, not before. I read that it will be a few weeks before the results are known. And if past experience holds true, not much of that report will be made public. A lot will be said in the report that the public has no right to know. And a lot will be said that the family, both sides, will not want to make public.
 
Any evidence of foul play discovered will be turned over to a prosecutor. Standard procedure. As is the Pinelas County M.E. order for an autopsy. Michael and Felos did not "order" an autopsy like you order a hamburger. They had no choice in the matter. For anyone who doubts, below is the pertinent part of Florida Code 406.11(1)(c):

406.11 Examinations, investigations, and autopsies

(1) In any of the following circumstances involving the death of a human being, the medical examiner of the district in which the death occurred or the body was found shall determine the cause of death and shall, for that purpose, make or have performed such examinations, investigations, and autopsies as he or she shall deem necessary or as shall be requested by the state attorney:

* *

(c) When a body is to be cremated,
 
They've been in her brain since mid-1990's and Michael never bothered to have them removed. It just struck me as odd that he deliberately left them inside her head.

Because there's NO use to have her implant removed. It doesn't have any effect on her brain - it's not killing her nor improving her so just better leave it alone!

-jeff
 
Remember, Terri was a bulmic and she had a cardiac arrest due to low potassium - that is well documented. You cannot beat potassium out of the body! About 10% of people with eating disorder die of a heart attack. Many people don't realize how dangerous anorexia/bulmnia is. Have you seen pictures of Terri before she died? She looked way too skinny and I could tell she had eating disorder.

-jeff
 
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