whistler

Ever heard of TTI treasuretradersinternational, shel? Almost an exact replica of CDT except their "product" was emeralds instead of diamonds. They were also from Canada by the way. Anyway, guess what? They went through the same process as CDT is now and ...guess again....they were declared illegal and shut down. Do a search on TTI. To start you off, here is a forum where it was discussed at great lengths. You will find many of the arguments, both for and against are the same ones you are now hearing about CDT.

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TFWFalcon

LOL Yeah I hear about it. I am not join them due lack of produce. Several time that I try explains to them about CDT has lack of products but They are quite confession. So I am back off and let them figure it out later. Few people got $2500. But where is next level like earn $5000 or $7500 lately?. <-----Lack of Products. My mind said oh crap come on use head up before start join or anything. I am glad that stay stick my Forex Trader. <---Happy trigger PROFIT!.

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shel90

I looked up Forex Trader and as usual there are websites saying it is a scam and warnings. It seems that every trading businesses are scams, huh?

Here are the links

Quatloos! -- FOREX Scams and Commodities Fraud Gallery

FOREX: Russell Allen Erxleben Sentenced to Federal Prison for FOREX fraud...


Forex scam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



There are websites saying Quixtar is a scam too

American Scam

Amway and Quixtar Scam

Amway/Alticor/Quixtar Sucks!


Fool.com: Financial Scams [Post of the Day] April 5, 2001

But I am sure the supporters for Forex and Quixtar will say no, it is not a scam and that those website have the wrong info just as well as members of CDT too.

Now about business we all know and trust..

Websites saying Mary Kay is a pyramid scheme (unbelievable huh? but yes, Mary Kay recruits people and the uplines recieves commissions based on their downlines' sales..hmmm what do I think of that? Just like with the allegations of CDT being a scam, I honestly dont know...cuz Mary Kay has been in business for 30 years and it is a scam? Never know)

Sequence Inc. Forensic Accounting - The FRAUDfiles Fraud Blog

From this link:
Pyramid Scheme Alert
Mary Kay Distributors Expose Abuses
January 21, 2006

After years of silence, Mary Kay distributors are now coming forward to report abuses of inventory loading, pressure to recruit other MK salespeople, large financial losses and a company culture that blames its own victims. A new website has been built where MK sales people can share experiences and get facts about the realities of the MK business. Anyone in Mary Kay or considering joining this business should visit this site and carefully consider its facts and analysis.. . More.


There are other websites saying that Quixtar, Forex and MaryKay are not pyramid scams.



As for the TTI scam thing..I did learn about it right after joining last summer and investigated that and found the answers from CDT about it. CDT has a policy not to do business with Allax (the founder for TTI). Maybe it wont matter.

Should I scream SCAM to Quixtar ,Forex, MaryKay or others? Nope I wont cuz they are still running right? Havent been shut down yet? Maybe those businesses are not scams cuz people actually have got their earnings just like with CDT so maybe it is the work put into selling as much as u can before finally earning income is the part where people scream scam? Maybe those people are right. Who is right? Maybe we will never know.


There are websites saying that Quixtar, Forex and MaryKay are not pyramid scams.

Maybe I am just plain stupid and really want to earn extra money and just fooling myself anyway. I should just stick to my 9 to 5 job and earn money only have it eaten up by high gas prices, high housing costs, and blah blah. If only there was another way to earn extra money without having to have a 2nd job. I did that for 2 years..caused me too much stress and put me in the hosptial. Darn it..I thought money grew on trees!!! Wouldnt that be AWESOME? LOLOL

This posting is not to defend CDT but just letting u know that the same allegations have been made to those companies and more too.

Everyone, thanks for all your info and tips. I am researching about the coloured treated diamonds cuz I would like to learn more about them.

Many thanks!

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TFWFalcon

Shel90.....you really quite confession that you look at links that you post about Forex. You need read more careful before make comments. Those people who forex trade is under brokerage or company that guy cannot take out your money. It is illegal. Also links is myths. Someone make links is losers. They couldn't make profits. Reason they are lazy to learn and study market stocks. Check and read at Here is Forex trader forum. OANDA FXMessage


PS you don't need said DUH! Be honest with you when I read your provide links and it make me loud out laughing.

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Note for Shel90

Did I said CDT scam?. LOL

Mary Kay is not scam. reason they have products and selling thing. If there is no products then it call scam or illegal active.

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No...it is not me saying that...it is the websites. I am just saying that there are websites all over accussing different companies of being a scam. Get it? That was my whole point. I didnt form these opinions..just showing that wow..soooooo many people and agencies calling different companies scam. LOL

Also, I am having a little trouble understanding what u are saying so I hope I interepreted what u were trying to say correctly. If u think that I am trying to say that all these companies are scams, u read wrong ok? I didnt form a personal opinion about any of these companies just saying whoa..so many websites out there screaming scam.

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shel90

No, I never said "TFWFalcon said CDT is scam." Never made that statement.

Right, I believe that MaryKay is not a scam but interesting that so many publishings saying it is a scam. Strange huh? Same thing for the other companies.

My big question is: if all these companies are "scams" then why are they still operating. Right? If CDT gets shut down then thank god we will know the truth but if it doesnt (it has been running for over 2 years) then it will make me wonder. Know what I mean?

Again, I will make this clear....my reason for showing all these links is that it seems that several companies have been accused of being a scam.

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TFWFalcon

LOL I don't need your interpreted. FYI you misspelling INTEREPRETED LOL! It is your problem poor understanding as in earlier I said you are confession. Too bad if you can't handle read or whatever. I think you are very believe in Links show where they make comments about scam things. Use judgment mind review which is facts or myths.

Question how get start with 500 dollars and how many need recruits before you make profit $2500?.

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shel90

You say "To bad if you cant handle read or whatever." "It is your problem poor understanding as earlier I said you are confession" Huh? I do not understand what u are saying..sorry.

So what if I spelled the word "interpreted" wrong? It is called a "typo". I type very fast so yes I will make spelling mistakes...whoopie do!

My English is fine..thank u. No need to play English teacher here.

I guess u feel ok to insult me but I wont insult you cuz that is wrong.

Obviously, u dont understand my point that I am trying to make so I am not gonna explain it again.

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TFWFalcon

Whoa. you misunderstanding. I don't insult you. One thing you mention "I am not gonna explain it again" that is point you are still don't understanding. Show me how is CDT function system make profit $2500.00. Gimme me show me see if you actual understand about CDT system. I was test you. I am suspect that you don't understand about CDT system. Don't send CDT link or copy/paste here. Just your own type show me how is workout with CDT.

PS No need to play English teacher here. you are bring up mention need intercepted to understand read. TSK TSK TSK (guard off)

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shel90

If you werent playing English teacher, then why make a comment about me misspelling a word? What is the big deal? Yes, I misspelled a word and your point is?

Nope, I am not gonna explain how CDT works because right now with all these allegations, I want to wait and see what the final confirmation from our govt says about it. I want to make 100% sure that it is legal or not. I do understand how the CDT system works just fine and I dont need to prove to people whether I understand it or not. That is my personal choice. The point is I am reading all these statements and taking them seriously and I welcome any more information from anyone like for example about the coloured diamonds. That was very helpful info and made me think differently about my diamond.

It sure looked like u were insulting me but u said you weren't. Thanks for clarifying that.

Thank you.

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TFWFalcon

Yes clarifying you reason FYI is not mean insult. It tell you it was misspelling.
That is all. Thanks

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Ok, no problem. Thanks.

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hobbitgal

People! You seemed got the wrong idea about the CDT, CDT is not a scam. Some of my friends have already joined the CDT, and guess what? they got thier debit card and diamond. They are very happy with it. I know I will be getting it soon. This has nothing to do with pyraind. CDT already have a lawyer in Candian. You guys got to lighten up about CDT. Greeze someone just making these up or assume about CDT. I have faith in CDT, and will be buying another spot soon. Well, you guys who is still scare of cdt then you have no faith to check these out. Just ask CDT for more information. If you don't then that is your lost. I will be soon getting a brand new car.

hobbitgal

Oops i mispelled it " that is your loss" Smile

hobbitgal

Well, We people in Georgia signed up CDT, and some of them already got thier debit card and diamonds each month. They did not lose thier money they got more money ( 2,500.00 plus an diamond) I will getting one very soon. You need to call cdt and ask them more information. If you don't then that is your loss. You guys gotten stop listen to the rumor because one my of my leader talks to CDT, and said some of them are not true,the arrest, or deaf man first seet up. Greeze guys ask CDT before any of you spread an rumor to other. I have lot of faith in CDT, and already bought another one. I am getting a brand new car.
Ciao!

shel90

U must be doing great! Congrats!! I agree about the rumors..one of my friends paid off her last credit card debt from her CDT check. She is so happy.

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Kalista

My friends are pissed off big time ! They resigned CDT. They lost 500 dollars.

I have no problem with IBO so far *knock the wood*

SxyPorkie

Yes... few friends of mine had joined CDT... and one of them took a small diamond out to the jewelry place to be appraised.. it turned out that diamond were low grade of diamond... it is in a way of faking.. it is not 100% real diamond...IT IS A SCAM....

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shel90

Probably cuz of all the rumors..have to give it time. Cant expect it to work overnight.

Glad IBO is working for u. My brother went to a Quixtar meeting...said no way he will join cuz it would cost $830 a year to be a Quixtar member. Wow..that is a lot of money.

My friend got her money back after resigning due to all the rumors. Did they try calling CDT headquarters for their money back?

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shel90

One of my friends got $500 for her diamond that was valued at $800. U wont get the full price cuz jewelery stores have their own opinions. Have to look at the back of the certificate..it said "it varies from jeweler to jeweler."

No, they are not the true colored diamonds. Those are worth hundreds of thousands of dollars since it takes thousands and thousands of years for the colors to form. Those are reserved for the seriously rich people..LOL.Think u are gonna get one for paying only $120 dollars? No I dont think so! CDT diamonds are treated diamonds.

I am still waiting for offical word from the MD attorney general. I have contacted him and they are reviewing the program. Dont know when the announcement will be made.

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SxyPorkie

Oh well!!! in my opinion you are being scammed!!

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shel90

That is your opinion and I have my opinion. I would rather listen to the MD Attorney General than from other people who dont really have hard proof.

There has been so many publishings and news reports in history calling Amway, Quixtar, MaryKay and other businesses scams too but people still kept their faith in those businesses so out of respect, I dont tell them that their businesses are scam based on reports or other people's opinions. I will rely on the Attorney's General's word only.

Thank u.

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Nesmuth

Finally those pretty diamonds if any exists could be blood diamonds.

Richard

shel90

Already did that research before I joined. There are laws about that and CDT's contracts with GenScan Laboratories mentioned about that. There are 47 contries that have gotten together to create the Kimberly Process to tighten the filtering of blood diamonds and Canada is one of them.

Yea, any diamond could be blood diamonds so we never really know.

http://www.kimberleyprocess.com:8080...cf297a862299b5

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Kalista

I did not ask my friends about their situation with CDT.

I only paid 48 dollars for renewal member a year. *perplexed* why 830 dollars ??

shel90

I really dont know. That was what my brother told me. He went to a meeting cuz he was interested in joining Quixtar and the guy told him that he will have to pay a monthly fee of 60 something dollars so he did the calculations and said it totaled to $830 a year in fees.

I can ask my brother for more clarification.

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farewell65

I am currently member of CDT and want to quit from CDT, how can I do that?? I have been diffcult time to call CDT... I am also member of Quixtar/IBO, is it scam??

shel90

Like with CDT if u google and type in "Quixtar and scam" many websites will be displayed saying that it is a scam. HOWEVER, many people have faith in Quixtar and said no, it is not a scam. Same thing with CDT and many other companies. At least CDT hired a lawyer here in MD and will see if things get worked out. I cant give u the answer if Quixtar/IBO is a scam but I wont take the words from those websites to call it a scam cuz there is no hard proof. I guess it is up to each individual. Same thing with the CDT situation.

Also, I find that calling CDT around 630 PM Eastern time is usually the time I get a rep.

Here is an example of someone saying Quixtar is a scam:

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Right or wrong, there is little more important to me than my intellectual credibility with close friends and family. Since I blame no one but myself, I can't say that my credibility was taken from me so much as I gave it away.

Recently there have been many posts on Amway/Quixtar. I even think the guy who is hyping it has two profiles and thinks we're idiots. Showing, "how many people are into it" is "proof that it works."

I am a sophomore studying engineering. Before the election I was heading toward the campus auditorium to see Gloria Steinem speak, just for the hell of it. I had an hour to kill, so I went to the University Center to see if anything was going on and two guys in suits were standing by the doors. They said hi and asked if I was there to learn how to make money on the Internet. I said no, but I'd be willing to listen.

So, with an hour until the speech I go upstairs to their room (which I can't believe the university let them have). The speaker is fifteen minutes late. Argh. (Later I find out it's on purpose... the upline Platinum is a very important person, after all.) After an hour and a half, I've missed the speech, but I'm excited.

Amway/Quixtar is currently targeting college campuses, rife with young dummies like me, with no business knowledge whatsoever.

I was a real go-getter. I prospected my family and friends. I bought the tapes, went to the seminars, and after two months of intense prospecting, calling, showing the plan, etc., I had one person under me. MY MOM!

Maybe I'm a loser, never meant for a man's business like Quixtar. I don't think so. After four months now, there is still no one under my mom. All of the go-getters above me showing the plan every night have not extended the leg even one person.

I was about to plop down $250 to take my wife and I to "winter leadership," when I started looking on the web for more info. I typed Quixtar into Google and had a shocking, humbling experience. Site after site. But the one that got me was Scott Larsen's because he made the numbers so clear.

I have my opinions on controversial issues, which I have come to logically and rationally. If someone argues with me, I can defend myself, and, if I find my arguments do not hold up under scrutiny, I change them. When I finally came around from Quixtar, my stomach had a knot like you wouldn't believe. I seriously felt like vomiting. I had a serious emotional commitment to Quixtar. Under its spell, I could see no evil.

I'm back no normal, but a quick calculation puts me back over $1000! I got two checks totaling $30. I overspent on overpriced Amway products, bought tapes, bought books, went to seminars, put miles on my car, and the whole ball of wax.

I am a positive thinking person, though. I took away several valuable lessons from this experience.

1) DUE DILLIGENCE!!!
2) Learn to read numbers.
3) Emotion has no place in investing.
4) Don't overestimate yourself. Everyone does stupid things...yes, even you.
5) If it sounds to good to be true, it probably is.
6) BUSINESS MEETINGS DO NOT BEGIN WITH PRAYERS!!! (My first red light went off here.)

Am I bitter? No. I'm glad I did it because if I hadn't, I never would have realized how ignorant I am and would not have begun researching businesses and investing for real. I'm more glad I got out. Chalk it up to life experience.

Now you probably all think I'm crazy. I really am back to normal, though.

I truly feel sorry for the guy who got me into it. He's a senior in education, and he really does mean so well. He truly believes he is bringing to the world something that can offer something financially.

I know I didn't detail any arguments against them here, but I think everyone already knows the arguments. The whole point is, I thank my lucky stars I got out when I did. I hadn't lost every vestige of integrity (or my wallet) yet.

-Al

Fool.com: Financial Scams [Post of the Day] April 5, 2001


Same kinds of rumors are being said about CDT too.

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Reba

I'm curious. Have you ever tried to contact CDT using the above phone numbers? If so, what kind of response did you get?