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Old 03-01-2008, 10:55 AM   #31 (permalink)
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In other thread, okay, But I am talking about this thread. I am not worried about the other thread. If she say that in other thread then it have nothing to do with this thread.

Re-read Cherie's original topic because it has everything to do with it, unless you only came in here to attack Cheri's views.
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Old 03-01-2008, 10:57 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Re-read Cherie's original topic because it has everything to do with it, unless you only came in here to attack Cheri's views.
Who say anything about attacking Cheri? not me, You did say that to me. I am here only to view my opinions that was it. But I do have the right to defense Liebling. I already read her post. I don't see how that is a big deal.
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:00 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I don't understand this thread... Cheri create this thread to have understanding to respect the Christian but now ended up blaming on Liebling's mistakes... I guess this thread are going to be close...
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:01 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Who say anything about attacking Cheri? not me, You did say that to me. I am here only to view my opinions that was it. But I do have the right to defense Liebling. I already read her post. I don't see how that is a big deal.
Then why did you say it has nothing to do with this topic? I don't understand.
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:02 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I don't understand this thread... Cheri create this thread to have understanding to respect the Christian but now ended up blaming on Liebling's mistakes... I guess this thread are going to be close...
Mistake?? How is it a mistake when when same thing keeps happening in every thread?
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Mistake?? How is it a mistake when she keeps doing that in each thread?
Ohh nvm, you edited your post, we here to debate, and you have to expect that. Sorry if that bother you.
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What mistake did I say about? I am not sure if you understand my post...
Oh, I understand fully!
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:06 AM   #38 (permalink)
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Everyone calm down, Please.

GarnetTigerMom- You don't have a clue what's going on, if you don't know what's going on it's best refrain from posting on this thread. It's between me and Liebling as she knows what I'm talking about. You came in here turned this thread upside down. Stop being a forum bully.

Angel and Secretblend, Just ignored her if you have to please? She is just trying to pick up a fight in order to have this thread closed.
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re-read my post.
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Then why did you say it has nothing to do with this topic? I don't understand.
Because it don't make sense to pass judgment on liebling opinions. Each thread should be separates from other thead on the topics. I don't see how bring up libeling other thread to do with this one. I think that is a bit off the point. All I see is she sharing her feelings opinions on the post. So far I seen her respects Cheri's post in every thread. But both are allow to have opinions no matter what. Is this how this suppose to be?
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GarnetTigerMom- You don't have a clue what's going on, if you don't know what's going on it's best refrain from posting on this thread. It's between me and Liebling as she knows what I'm talking about. You came in here turned this thread upside down. Stop being a forum bully.
Funny, I come here and read the post CLEAR as a bell! I know well enough to read it very carefully. I am not a bully, you are being the bully to me ever since you have so many negative view on me. But I do have right to denfesne liebling for her opinions. Everybody opinions should be view fairly. Not judgement. So stop thinking I am a attackers when you attacks me most of the time. Peace.
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Old 03-01-2008, 11:22 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Because it don't make sense to pass judgment on liebling opinions. Each thread should be separates from other thead on the topics. I don't see how bring up libeling other thread to do with this one. I think that is a bit off the point. All I see is she sharing her feelings opinions on the post. So far I seen her respects Cheri's post in every thread. But both are allow to have opinions no matter what. Is this how this suppose to be?

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion/views/beliefs however respect must play a big role in this, meaning it goes both ways, learn that everyone sees this differently. And so far I haven't seen you respect hers.

I'm not going to contiune agrue with you on this because it not worth it, you just refuse to keep an open mind on this subject. You always have to be right in everything and we are wrong.

I would take the beaten anytime, because Jesus did too..

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Everyone's entitled to their own opinion/views/beliefs however respect must play a big role in this, meaning it goes both ways, learn that everyone sees this differently. And so far I haven't seen you respect hers.

I'm not going to contiune agrue with you on this because it not worth it, you just refuse to keep an open mind on this subject. You always have to be right in everything and we are wrong.

I would take the beaten anytime, because Jesus did too..

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Either am I, You don't keep open mind on my opinions either so that same goes without saying. PEACE! end of the disucssion.
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Cheri,

Posts #1 and #2--good points.
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Posts #1 and #2--good points.
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I don't see how that is a big deal.
You don't see how labeling God as "God is a murder", or "God is cruel", or "God is imperfect" is a big deal to you? How much do you really love God? I'm so curious.
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In my opinion, calling the beloved family member of anyone "murderer", "cruel", or any other derogatory names, would be offensive and painful.

To Christians, God is our father, and to call our beloved father bad names is hurtful.

To Christians, Jesus is the groom and the Church (the body of all Christian believers) is the bride. If people mock the groom, it is very painful to the bride.
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In my opinion, calling the beloved family member of anyone "murderer", "cruel", or any other derogatory names, would be offensive and painful.

To Christians, God is our father, and to call our beloved father bad names is hurtful.

To Christians, Jesus is the groom and the Church (the body of all Christian believers) is the bride. If people mock the groom, it is very painful to the bride.
Amen.
I can sense that God is hurting too.
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You have not respect us at all, You labeled God murder, You labeled God cruel, You labeled God selfish, Imperfect. If you want respect, then respect is given when it is received. The choice is yours Liebling. Take your pick.
Cheri, I second that. I agree with you.
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GarnetTigerMom & Puyo, I donīt know how to say for know my positive POV in any posts. I am speechless how you understand my posts well, but Christians doesnīt?

All what I see Christians here is attack my POV and accuse me for "label God as a murder". I find very disguistly of them to accuse me like this. "Label God as a murder" sound that I make fun of God. This is a terrible word. I consider God as a murder or killer is a right word. Remember that "consider" and "label" is not the same thing.

What I state my fact POV about Bible history where and how I learn from bible history that God killed people including children and newborns. Why children and newborns have to die because their parents do not worship him or disobey him. My heart goes children and newborns. I consider it as murder.

It doesnīt mean that I label God as a murder for the fun but express my honest POV what I learn from history because they are fact.
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In my opinion, calling the beloved family member of anyone "murderer", "cruel", or any other derogatory names, would be offensive and painful.

To Christians, God is our father, and to call our beloved father bad names is hurtful.

To Christians, Jesus is the groom and the Church (the body of all Christian believers) is the bride. If people mock the groom, it is very painful to the bride.

Exactly, Thank you Reba!!!
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Whoa WHoA!!!! Liebling never said anything about labeling GOD as a "murder", where did you get that idea? Speaking of respect, it earn not given. But you know in the bible the say the old saying that " GOD is merciful " so that means GOD can be cruel for a reasons. I believe she did respect everybody feelings.
for know my posts.

Yes, you are correct that I never label God as a murder in negatively way but consider God as a murder.

Yes, you are correct that God could be cruel for different reasons.

Yes, you are correct that I respect everyone´s feeling and accept what they are, no matter what. I treat everyone equally, then I can agree to disagree what I feel like, not follow their own way.
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In my opinion, calling the beloved family member of anyone "murderer", "cruel", or any other derogatory names, would be offensive and painful.

To Christians, God is our father, and to call our beloved father bad names is hurtful.

To Christians, Jesus is the groom and the Church (the body of all Christian believers) is the bride. If people mock the groom, it is very painful to the bride.
Good point! I strongly agree with your comment here.
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You may think God is a murder but you also have to understand those who believe in God would not like to hear those words, it's all about respect, Liebling. We have no problem with questions being asked, and wanted answers from us, but labeling God doesn't solved anything, It only makes it worst. I do hope you understand where we are coming from.
Yes, I can understand where you come from but you canīt do anything since the religion forum is public for everyone to express/share their POV in different way. They are free to express/share their feeling and POV what and how they have experience, learn from bible, history, etc. etc. etc. in different way. You canīt expect us to follow your own way all the time.

I will respect if Alex said that Religion forum is for Christianity only. Alex explained before he re-open the religion forum that we are free to express the POV on our belief if anyone donīt like then donīt post.

You canīt argue anyone how upset and offend you are over our different POV of God. Simple ignore it or try to positive our "negative" posts. It would be understandable and disrespectful if anyone judge your religion belief...etc. Have you seen me judge your belief and other belief? Nope, but debate about God and Jesus itself, not religion issues.

I started to notice that Christians are upset and feel being insult over "negative" one, thatīs why I created 2 threads "God vs Religion" and "Does religion really matter" to convince you all what it is about. I try to explain the difference between religion and God that the different religions made by man, not God. God has nothing do with religion but the people themselves.

I tried to tell you to read my thread "God vs religion" that God has nothing do with religion. No matter how you try to convince me with 2 links here about Christianity religion because any religion beleivers would provide their links about their own religionīs God to against your one as well.

Thatīs why I say that God is for EVERYONE in neutral way.


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