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Old 02-26-2008, 01:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I mentioned in another thread, off topic, regarding the Trinity so here I am. I have heard that on many American University campuses that Muslims are handing out tracts/pamphlets that say that we Christians worship THREE Gods, not the ONE!! This causes a lot of confusion and a lot of time and energy has to be spent explaining the Trinity, a complex (for me, too) thing to understand.

Therefore, we must double our efforts to fully understand the Trinity because it doesn't get talked about much but it is a very foundational concept of our belief. We must be prepared for the day we are handed a tract by a Muslim and a discussion begins. I understand, in general, that many Muslims are questioning their own belief so if we have a discussion with one of them, we need to be knowledgeable about this and LOVINGLY try to correct their misconception about the Trinity. Btw, this also goes for all such folks, not just the Muslims. It is just that the handing out of these tracts on such a grand scale got my attention.

We believe that God has always been known as the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. For me, personally, this has been the most ignored (not intentionally) part of my belief because it is difficult to understand. So, let's prepare thoroughly for the day we meet others who say we believe in three Gods. I have not been there yet but someone told me to check out [url]www.insight.org[url] Maybe some of you will beat me to it but please, by all means, do.
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Old 02-26-2008, 01:27 PM   #32 (permalink)
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"This supports my thoughts more when it comes to using "In Jesus's name" the role of trinity. . . ."
There's good scholarship in there, Sleepy. Each piece we're able to fit into place gives us a better view of the infinite puzzle.
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There's good scholarship in there, Sleepy. Each piece we're able to fit into place gives us a better view of the infinite puzzle.
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Old 02-26-2008, 11:17 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I find it interesting that you are posting a link that supports the Trinity. Did you read and understand it? It was full of very clear explanation supporting the Trinity, and specifically answered your statement about the word "Trinity" not being in the Bible.
Did I said that those link, I provide to support my agreement? Nope, I only provide the link to show you all why I do not beleive in Trinity.

It doesnīt mean that I agree when I find the link interesting or show you all why I donīt beleive in or whatever. I said in my thread "God vs Religion" that I AGREE with those link which mean I AGREE with the website author.

I notice some of you think we are agree when we provide the links - look at the example of Mann_05īs thread. "Do God has an emotion". It doesnīt mean that Mann 05 agree with link, she provided in her thread but just show interesting link. *shake my head*

Next time, please donīt make an assumption because I never say that I agree with link.
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Old 02-27-2008, 03:53 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Leibling, if you do not believe in the Trinity, please tell me what you believe in. I tried to ask you that somewhere else. It looks like you like to argue and disagree for the fun of it, like a sport or something. What do you personally believe in....in this area we are discussing? I don't need URLs, etc, just your words will be good enough. If you decline, that's fine, too.
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Old 02-27-2008, 04:15 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Leibling, if you do not believe in the Trinity, please tell me what you believe in. I tried to ask you that somewhere else.
Please re-read my first post #21.

I personally believe in one God, not 3 in one God what I said in my first post #21 remains.

I already said in several threads that I beleive Jesus Christ is Son of God, not God. I was raised to beleive in Jesus is Son of God until I learn from Christians in AD Forum that Jesus is God which I disagree to. I try to see the logic but the logic about Jesus is God doesn't support my view. I sometimes beleive in Jesus Christ is son of Mary & Joseph and then next beleive in Jesus is Son of God. I personally beleive that God and Jesus are not same person accord their different personality. I learn their personality thru the bibles. I love to learn about bible history when I was at school...



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It looks like you like to argue and disagree for the fun of it, like a sport or something.
Are you accuse me for that?

The fact is I like good debate with logic which is a good education for me. I want to understand and want to try to understand the logic to ANY interpretation of bibles. Their interpretation of bible helps me to see the logic. I am very open and see the logic. I saw for a first time that the interpretation of bibles are not same thru AD Forum. It opens my eyes.



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What do you personally believe in....in this area we are discussing? I don't need URLs, etc, just your words will be good enough. If you decline, that's fine, too.
I hope my answer to satisfy your question.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:07 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Posting without introduction or comment is almost always a veiled challenge, but also almost always lacks the courage of conviction. Saying it's an interesting thing I saw on-line or in some unnamed publication is mostly smokescreen to advance a private agenda or stir trouble.

Most of the hateful ideas floating around the internet are wishful-thinking and totally made up to inflame or amuse the easily incited or diverted.

It does get extremely tiresome when it just goes on and on and on.
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Old 02-27-2008, 12:42 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Did I said that those link, I provide to support my agreement? Nope, I only provide the link to show you all why I do not beleive in Trinity.
That link shows proof supporting the Trinity. How does it show why you don't believe in the Trinity?


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It doesnīt mean that I agree when I find the link interesting or show you all why I donīt beleive in or whatever. I said in my thread "God vs Religion" that I AGREE with those link which mean I AGREE with the website author.
That link's author said he supports belief in the Trinity. Do you agree with that author?


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Next time, please donīt make an assumption because I never say that I agree with link.
It's very confusing when you post links that are the opposite of your statements.
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Old 02-28-2008, 11:57 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Good one Eaglie.
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That link shows proof supporting the Trinity.
For your information, I do read the link before I provided here about the question. I support those question and not answer and then explain why I do not beleive in the Trinity. (Check my post toward Tousi).


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How does it show why you don't believe in the Trinity?
Repeat: Because God and Jesus have different personality.

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That link's author said he supports belief in the Trinity. Do you agree with that author?
Repeat: Where have I say to agree with those link, I provide here? Please show me where?

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It's very confusing when you post links that are the opposite of your statements.
  • It doesn't mean that I agree when I provide any links. Those links for EVERYONE, not for myself or you.
  • If I agree with link then I would say those link support my view or agree with author.

  • It doesn't mean that I agree with link if I find those links interesting.

Get it?
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:14 PM   #42 (permalink)
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For your information, I do read the link before I provided here about the question. I support those question and not answer and then explain why I do not beleive in the Trinity. (Check my post toward Tousi).
I was just curious because your statements about the links don't match up with the content in the links.


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Repeat: Because God and Jesus have different personality.
That might be what you believe but it wasn't in that link.


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Repeat: Where have I say to agree with those link, I provide here? Please show me where?
I didn't say that you did. I'm asking you a question. Do you agree with the author of that link? It's a simple yes or no question.


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[list][*]It doesn't mean that I agree when I provide any links. Those links for EVERYONE, not for myself or you.
[*]If I agree with link then I would say those link support my view or agree with author.
[*]It doesn't mean that I agree with link if I find those links interesting.
Get it?
No. It doesn't make any sense at all. Why would you make a statement, then post a link that proves you are wrong in the same post? If you don't agree with my statements, I wonder why you post links that support me, not you?
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:30 PM   #43 (permalink)
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I believe in God the Trinity: 3 in 1.

The illustration is egg:

1. shell
2. white
3. yolk.

One egg

Second illistration is me:

1. I am a brother to my sister and brothers.
2. I am a son to my parents
3. I am a husband to my wonderful wife.

I am one person.

Another illustration is the human body:

1. the flesh
2. the soul
3. the spirit

The human body is one.
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Perfect explanation Askjo.
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Perfect explanation Askjo.
Thank you.
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Perfect explanation Askjo.

I absolutely agree, that was a good one.
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Other illustration is water, H2O

1. ice
2. liquid
3. vapor

H2O is one.
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I believe in God the Trinity: 3 in 1.

The illustration is egg:

1. shell
2. white
3. yolk.

One egg

Second illistration is me:

1. I am a brother to my sister and brothers.
2. I am a son to my parents
3. I am a husband to my wonderful wife.

I am one person.

Another illustration is the human body:

1. the flesh
2. the soul
3. the spirit

The human body is one.
Amen! I cant find this same my files somewhere. I planned put this. Thanks lot!!! God bless ya! In 1991, My former church what one preacher shared this. I wrote lists notebook so somewhere files..
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I absolutely agree, that was a good one.
Thank you.
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Amen! I cant find this same my files somewhere. I planned put this. Thanks lot!!! God bless ya! In 1991, My former church what one preacher shared this. I wrote lists notebook so somewhere files..
You are welcome.
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Please re-read my first post #21.

I personally believe in one God, not 3 in one God what I said in my first post #21 remains.

I already said in several threads that I beleive Jesus Christ is Son of God, not God. I was raised to beleive in Jesus is Son of God until I learn from Christians in AD Forum that Jesus is God which I disagree to. I try to see the logic but the logic about Jesus is God doesn't support my view. I sometimes beleive in Jesus Christ is son of Mary & Joseph and then next beleive in Jesus is Son of God. I personally beleive that God and Jesus are not same person accord their different personality. I learn their personality thru the bibles. I love to learn about bible history when I was at school...





Are you accuse me for that?

The fact is I like good debate with logic which is a good education for me. I want to understand and want to try to understand the logic to ANY interpretation of bibles. Their interpretation of bible helps me to see the logic. I am very open and see the logic. I saw for a first time that the interpretation of bibles are not same thru AD Forum. It opens my eyes.





I hope my answer to satisfy your question.
Yes, it satisfies me enough to not discuss this any further with you because I know it will never end.
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