Is God Perfect? - Page 10

**Cheri** · 02-26-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

FYI, Jesus wasn't only person who love us so much that he died for us. There are many good people who willing to die for others. Our US soilders are good example

Jesus was SINLESS, lived his whole life without sin
The US Soliders are SINNERS, lived their life with sins.

US Solider did NOT die for our sins, they fought for our country.

Jesus died for our sins of all humanity.

Byrdie714 · 02-26-2008, 10:07 PM

Remember....we were founded as a Christian nation.

Royale · 02-26-2008, 10:15 PM

Nobody is perfect.

If God is perfect, then why he has created some imperfect human beings like Deaf people?

In summary, it does not make sense to me.

**Cheri** · 02-26-2008, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

Nobody is perfect.

If God is perfect, then why he has created some imperfect human beings like Deaf people?

In summary, it does not make sense to me.

Who is perfect? Are you saying hearing people are perfect and deaf people are not?

Nobody on this earth is perfect.

lumbingmi · 02-26-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

See? You just blamed God. You're just wasting my time. Read post #221.

I did not blame God. I blame groups who exploited weak people in name of God. These are two different things.

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Jesus was SINLESS, lived his whole life without sin
The US Soliders are SINNERS, lived their life with sins.

US Solider did NOT die for our sins, they fought for our country.

Jesus died for our sins of all humanity.

Oh now you re talking about die for sinners not for love ones. Okay I got it.

lumbingmi · 02-26-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Byrdie714

Remember....we were founded as a Christian nation.

Isn't it amazing it s the very same religion group condone slavery and oppression of women.

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Originally Posted by Royale

Nobody is perfect.

If God is perfect, then why he has created some imperfect human beings like Deaf people?

In summary, it does not make sense to me.

My advice don't mention "logic". It will throw them in a loop

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Who is perfect? Are you saying hearing people are perfect and deaf people are not?

Nobody on this earth is perfect.

Yup no one is perfect. Agreed.

Royale · 02-26-2008, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Who is perfect? Are you saying hearing people are perfect and deaf people are not?

Nobody on this earth is perfect.

No. I said nobody was perfect. It means all kinds of people.

**Cheri** · 02-26-2008, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Royale

No. I said nobody was perfect. It means all kinds of people.

Did you bothered to read post #221? or the entire thread, or just the first post of this thread?

Roadrunner · 02-26-2008, 10:32 PM

In the beginning, God did created two wonderful 'perfect' beings...then once the disobedience set in (taking the fruit from the forbidden tree via the temptation), sin made 'man' imperfect--.

~RR

**Cheri** · 02-26-2008, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

In the beginning, God did created two wonderful 'perfect' beings...then once the disobedience set in (taking the fruit from the forbidden tree via the temptation), sin made 'man' imperfect--.

I don't think they "get it" we've been saying this from first page to the end of this page.

**Angel** · 02-26-2008, 10:35 PM

God loves you just the way you are, so why blame God for having deaf people on earth?

lumbingmi · 02-26-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

In the beginning, God did created two wonderful 'perfect' beings...then once the disobedience set in (taking the fruit from the forbidden tree via the temptation), sin made 'man' imperfect--.
~RR

I dont think we re arguing whether 'man' is perfect or imperfect. I believe all of us non-religious and religious people all agree that no human is perfect. We re arguing whether God is perfect or imperfect. Like others had posted, God is imperfect in some people's eyes while perfect in religious people's eyes. We wont know the answers so we can only speculate.

Secretblend · 02-26-2008, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

I don't think they "get it" we've been saying this from first page to the end of this page.

I think they choose to ignore it cause they dont want to admit that they are wrong and have to obey God if they want to be with him.

By denying things, they can continue to do what they want without guilt.

lumbingmi · 02-26-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel

God loves you just the way you are, so why blame God for having deaf people on earth?

Apparently Jesus don't agree with you because he cured a deaf man. Hallelujah. Amen.

Secretblend · 02-26-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

Apparently Jesus don't agree with you because he cured a deaf man! Hallelujah. Amen.

Jesus had a reason for curing people, It was not for sake of curing people cause they had disablities. It was to back up that He is in fact Son of God. He used that power to cure so that people will know the words He is saying is true.

**Cheri** · 02-26-2008, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

Apparently Jesus don't agree with you because he cured a deaf man! Hallelujah. Amen.

We already discussed this and you now back to the same ol' argument? You're so pathetic.

lumbingmi · 02-26-2008, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Secretblend

Jesus had a reason for curing people, It was not for sake of curing people cause they had disablities. It was to back up that He is in fact Son of God. He used that power to cure so that people will know the words He is saying is true.

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Originally Posted by Cheri

We already discussed this and you now back to the same ol' argument? You're so pathetic.

You said God love you for who you are so Jesus shouldn't cure deaf man in the first place. Okay. Based on your reasoning, deaf people shouldn't get CI because God created them to be deaf. However deaf people defy God's will and get CI in order to be able hear sounds. I guess God is sad with them bec they re going to hell unless they re saved, right?

JeepGirl · 02-26-2008, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

Apparently Jesus don't agree with you because he cured a deaf man. Hallelujah. Amen.

so what.. he cured a deaf man, he cured alot of people.. doesn't mean that Jesus doesn't agree with us. He got the reward early.. so we'll eventually get a reward sooner or later.

Secretblend · 02-26-2008, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

You said God love you for who you are so Jesus shouldn't cure deaf man in the first place. Okay. Based on your reasoning, deaf people shouldn't get CI because God created them to be deaf. However deaf people defy God's will and get CI in order to be able hear sounds. I guess God is sad with them bec they re going to hell unless they re saved, right?

I never did say such a thing! Please dont twist my words around.

**Cheri** · 02-26-2008, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Secretblend

I never did say such a thing! Please dont twist my words around.

That's why I ignored him.

Roadrunner · 02-26-2008, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

I dont think we re arguing whether 'man' is perfect or imperfect. I believe all of us non-religious and religious people all agree that no human is perfect. We re arguing whether God is perfect or imperfect. Like others had posted, God is imperfect in some people's eyes while perfect in religious people's eyes. We wont know the answers so we can only speculate.

..and since I posted: "In the beginning, God did created two wonderful 'perfect' beings..." God being 'perfect' created two wonderful 'perfect' beings--....

Furthermore, I do not speculate, not only does the Word of God bears the Truth, also, my own heart tells me so by His Love He continually shows me.

~RR

Secretblend · 02-26-2008, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

..and since I posted: "In the beginning, God did created two wonderful 'perfect' beings..." God being 'perfect' created two wonderful 'perfect' beings--....

Furthermore, I do not speculate, not only does the Word of God bears the Truth, also, my own heart tells me so by His Love He continually shows me.

~RR

lumbingmi · 02-26-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Secretblend

I never did say such a thing! Please dont twist my words around.

Okay. I actually was replying to Cheri's post more than your. But the question is do you think deaf people shouldn't get CI since God intended them to be deaf?

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Originally Posted by Cheri

That's why I ignored him.

You can put me on ignore list and I wont lose any sleep over this. lmao.

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Originally Posted by Roadrunner

..and since I posted: "In the beginning, God did created two wonderful 'perfect' beings..." God being 'perfect' created two wonderful 'perfect' beings--....

Furthermore, I do not speculate, not only does the Word of God bears the Truth, also, my own heart tells me so by His Love He continually shows me.

~RR

Ah good for you

Sometime it s best to have blind faith

Secretblend · 02-26-2008, 11:22 PM

I think we ought to use what available technology is there. God gave us a brain to be able to design and build things for our use. Nothing wrong with using that for our benefit if we choose to use them.

ScubaladyTx · 02-26-2008, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel

God loves you just the way you are, so why blame God for having deaf people on earth?

Yeah, God have many reasons for us be deaf.... We should thank HIM that we have a BREATH BREATH BREATH! ! !

Only God is perfect. We are not.

Just don't mess with HIM.

Other thing, If whoever really don't understand in him... Then don't bother... OR read the bible from beginning.

M-

**Liebling:-)))** · 02-26-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tousi

Leibling, I have mentioned this to you once before and I don't like repeating stuff because we are all supposed to be adults here. You always say that you "collect" stuff/points of views/philosophy from different books, friends, etc out of respect. for them. But where is the "respect" for yourself? I think that is what some of us are asking. What is the guiding factor of your own life; nevermind everyone else? You have had many years to make a decision for what is the one central belief that guides and nutures your own life? It is okay to see what others say, etc but what is dear to YOUR own heart?

Excuse me, that's a personal attack, you made toward me here which is not a first time.

Please respect the rule of my thread. Have you read my rule in my thread # 1?

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Liebling´s thread #1

Dear ADers,

Your logic are welcome here including ANY religion beleivers as well what they beleive in...

Please don't bash and insult any religion beleiver, non-religion or non-beleiver but debate with agree to disagree normally. I mean NORMALLY, not too personal.
Enjoy

Where is your respect?

Did you know Alex´s first post before he re-open religion forum to respect each other when we have different view, if you don´t like what you see then leave this thread alone and go to other thread.?

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Leibling, I have mentioned this to you once before and I don't like repeating stuff because we are all supposed to be adults here.

Yes, that´s right but why you continue attack me for? I would not appreciate that you tell me how to post because we are adult to know how to debate respectfully. You continue attacked same ADer at few threads. It seem to me that you don´t like that we have different POV. I ask you to respect on our different POV.

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You always say that you "collect" stuff/points of views/philosophy from different books, friends, etc out of respect. for them. But where is the "respect" for yourself? I think that is what some of us are asking. What is the guiding factor of your own life; nevermind everyone else? You have had many years to make a decision for what is the one central belief that guides and nutures your own life? It is okay to see what others say, etc but what is dear to YOUR own heart

Why have I repeat those stuff to you for? Of course I collect ANYTHING and see what and how I agree to disagree is my business, not you everyone. I do debate with my friends in respectfully way in real life and also forums. I openly debate what I think and why I agree or disagree to. THIS IS A HISTORY, we collect and learn... no matter either there´re postive or negative. You has to face sometimes when there´re negative and postive in any history. I follow my heart what I see and think. I debate respectfully what I see in my heart.

Please do not take my post personal when I have different view over bible history. A personal attack is not acceptance in my thread here.

ScubaladyTx · 02-26-2008, 11:44 PM

[QUOTE=lumbingmi;926552]Okay. I actually was replying to Cheri's post more than your. But the question is do you think deaf people shouldn't get CI since God intended them to be deaf?

God create people.....very simple.. from Bible said very clear and loud.

CI by man made...

M-

ScubaladyTx · 02-26-2008, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

Okay. I actually was replying to Cheri's post more than your. But the question is do you think deaf people shouldn't get CI since God intended them to be deaf?

You can put me on ignore list and I wont lose any sleep over this. lmao.

Ah good for you

Sometime it s best to have blind faith

God create people.....very simple.. from Bible said very clear and loud.

M-

**Liebling:-)))** · 02-26-2008, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Angel

God loves you just the way you are, so why blame God for having deaf people on earth?

Yeah, I accept and positive my deafness at long time ago without blame anyone including God. This is a life...

**Cheri** · 02-26-2008, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

Okay. I actually was replying to Cheri's post more than your.

How so? I had not said any that you listed above, again you love to twisted every member's words. Pay attention to who you were quoting to, Angel is the one who said "God loves you just the way you are".

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Roadrunner Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: NY Posts: 7,089	In the beginning, God did created two wonderful 'perfect' beings...then once the disobedience set in (taking the fruit from the forbidden tree via the temptation), sin made 'man' imperfect--. ~RR __________________ "Nothing is ever lost by courtesy. It is the cheapest of pleasures, costs nothing, and conveys much." - Erastus Wiman

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Angel ♥"Concrete Angel"♥ Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 19,089	God loves you just the way you are, so why blame God for having deaf people on earth? __________________ "When we do the best we can, we never know what miracle is brought in our life, OR in the life of another." ~ Helen Keller

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Byrdie714 Banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 8,927	Remember....we were founded as a Christian nation.

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Royale Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: World's Second Coldest Capital City! Posts: 4,444	Nobody is perfect. If God is perfect, then why he has created some imperfect human beings like Deaf people? In summary, it does not make sense to me.

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Secretblend Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Antonio Posts: 3,747	I think we ought to use what available technology is there. God gave us a brain to be able to design and build things for our use. Nothing wrong with using that for our benefit if we choose to use them.

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ScubaladyTx Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,200	[QUOTE=lumbingmi;926552]Okay. I actually was replying to Cheri's post more than your. But the question is do you think deaf people shouldn't get CI since God intended them to be deaf? God create people.....very simple.. from Bible said very clear and loud. CI by man made... M-