Doug5

Does it really matter one way or the other? Would it really change anything if one was true?

Lets for the sake of argument, say evolution is true. Evolution takes millions and billions of years, and I will be lucky to make it to a 100. This means my offsprings are gonna pretty much look like me. Evolution isnt gonna have any noticable affect in my measly 100 years. so whatever

Now lets assume creationism is true. Now I am a direct descendant from adam and eve. I look in the mirror and nothing has changed. If i have kids i tell them we are not related to monkeys.

nothing changes, the whole debate pointless

Deafness

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doh

Teaching children outright lies in public schools that are blatently contradicted by well-established fact is "what's wrong".

Evolution is a cumulative phenomenon and will hardly give any "noticable effect" in 100 years in a species that reproduces so infrequently. There's a different time frame that one has to use to think about evolution, continental drift, and universal stuff (distance and time in outer space). We normal folk have no real concept of 50 million years cos we rarely live over 100 years.

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Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
They make a club.
And beat their brother down.
How they survive so misguided is a mystery.
Repugnant is a (not dismal) creature who would
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Cheri

You're entitled to your opinion, but I don't think it's pointless, only is pointless when people based their thoughts on theories, how accurate are theories? theory is a theory , they cannot prove a whole lot in evolutionary biology, I don't trust theories, I trust facts and the truth.

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Byrdie714

I think we should teach both Creationism and Evolutionin the schoos.

Maybe God wanted us to learn about evolution on how He did the work?

Afterall it was God that sent Charles Darwin to us to enlighten us.....

shel90

Or maybe it was God who created evolution? Never know..

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doh

How do you feel about gravity? Or number theory?

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Monkey, killing monkey, killing monkey.
Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
They make a club.
And beat their brother down.
How they survive so misguided is a mystery.
Repugnant is a (not dismal) creature who would
Squander the ability to lift an eye to heaven, conscious of his fleeting time here

jazzy

I think public schools should not teach creationism but teach evolution because it is part of science.. kids should learn creationism from their own parents not us.

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Cheri

I don't think so because Charles Darwin is a human being, God gave people free will that's including to makes choices in life, choose good or evil, right or wrong, self or others.

If God sent us Charles Darwin then he would believe in God's existence too, won't he?

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Cheri

I believe both should be taught in school we shouldn't hide anything from the children, we can't just lie to them, hide them from the world, or it's truth, or it's lie. I don't believe in that.

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jazzy

I perfer kids to learn about creationism be taught separately (private) because not every of them raise in Christian home. They can take course at college about them but not while my tax dollars goes to school to have them taught my kids about God their way.

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Cheri

Creationism has nothing to do with Christianity. Creationism has to do with God.

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Secretblend

very good point!

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doh

Creation myths generally are taught but not in biology classes or science classes, rather, they are taught in social studies classes where the aim of the course is to learn about other societies and their mythos.

Creation and things similar to it are non-testable and therefor require faith because they can not be shown to be true with the scientific method. Evolution, on the other hand, requires no faith (unless one is unwilling to research for themself, and that is silly!!!) as there is a mountain of evidence in support of its veracity.

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Monkey, killing monkey, killing monkey.
Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
They make a club.
And beat their brother down.
How they survive so misguided is a mystery.
Repugnant is a (not dismal) creature who would
Squander the ability to lift an eye to heaven, conscious of his fleeting time here

Secretblend

There is alot of evidence saying that evolution is not true. It's being hidden by the scientist that dont want to admit the truth.

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Cheri

*nods* even where scientist would disagree with other scientist on a theory.

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Doug5

here we go again arguing about something that cant be proven. You want proof, build yourself a time machine and go back in history and see for yourself.

Evolution is just a theory. Its not proven as fact. School teaches lots of subjects about factless theory. You have psychology, economics ....

Cheri

I would love to do that, then I would get to meet Jesus.

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Liebling:-)))

That´s why I allow my both sons learn both Creationism and Evolution at school. I was taught both at school and find interesting. I am still interesting to focus both Creationism and Evolution which is a good education for me.

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doh

Give The Talk.Origins Archive: Must-Read FAQs a read. I'm curious what people who claim something is "just" theory think about number theory and gravity, both of which are "just theories".

Shall be my final post as talkorigins.org does a good job in dealing with the subject of, well, origins.

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Monkey, killing monkey, killing monkey.
Over pieces of the ground.
Silly monkeys give them thumbs,
They make a club.
And beat their brother down.
How they survive so misguided is a mystery.
Repugnant is a (not dismal) creature who would
Squander the ability to lift an eye to heaven, conscious of his fleeting time here

Foxrac

Creationism should be teach at church, private school or home, even that's parent who would teach them but agnostic/atheist parents wouldn't enjoy to see like that when teach at public school.

Evolution is just regular course that had teach at public school, it's for everyone.

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Cheri

If it's not taught in school kids are going to learned about Creationism in the real world or on TV or on the radio, or by their friends, what's the differences?

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Foxrac

Well, who would care about it? Kids can get influenced on everything from TV, radio or their friend.

When they getting older, they would have choice to believe or not.

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Byrdie714

Well Charles Darwin was baptised as Anglican....if he believed in God or not is shrouded in mystery....

God sent Cheri....

God sent Byrdie714....

Therefore God sent Charles Darwin...

KarissaMann05

IMO, it'll be easy if they can just discuss and chat instead of heat debating and so dramatic.

Too bad, it's pretty diffcult.. = /

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Askjo

If the creationism is true, the Bible is true and God is true. If the evolution is true, the atheism is true.

PuyoPiyo

Exactly, but which of those BIG varies of religions that believe creationism or envolution was the true? That is what my problem is about labeling anything that are unproveable as "truth".

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laughing-Carrot

Religion is a deliberate imposture devised by some cunning man for political ends. I find it pretty amusing how there is nothing to support the claims of the Bible, except the Bible itself.... as is the way of all religions.
Eventually, I believe, creationism will be denounced. As were the Egyptian and Greek gods, when people found out that volcanoes, plagues, diseases were works of nature, not of otherworldly beings.

Science is the new comfort blanket for people nowdays. And im finding it pretty damn comfortable, since it helped me to hear, unlike those religious extremists who were running around claiming scientists were playing 'god' upon invention of hearing technology for the HOH and the deaf. Religion hasn't done much for deafness, as far as im concerned.

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