Does religion really matter?

**Liebling:-)))** · 02-10-2008, 02:43 PM

Question:

What do some people beleive about religion?

How do you think God feels about what religion have done during war time?

How do you feel that many people kill each other due their different religion belief?

Did God accept people´s form of religion?

Were the religious leaders who were trying to kill Jesus worship God?

What about the hundreds of religion at present time?

Do you agree that those religion are false?

How do you know worship to God in the way to be acceptance?

Do you really beleive that the church is acceptance to God?

How do you know that your religion´s bible is correct ?

**shel90** · 02-10-2008, 02:47 PM

I was baptized Catholic and did learn about it but then I decided that religion is not for me.

I cant answer why religion should matter. It means a lot to some people so they are probably better than me in answering.

All I know is that I am like u Liebling...how does one know their religion is right and so on.

**Liebling:-)))** · 02-10-2008, 02:53 PM

Yes, that's problem is the author of different religions interpreted their bibles differently to brainwash the people when they beleive in one God, many or idols. That's why I don't have any religion to choose but netural. I cannot say anything against their beliefs because they choose to beleive in but I can say something what I know from bible story (not scriptures or verus).

I guess it would be different story if we all have only one path to the one bible or many bibles with same interpretation, don´t we?

The bible authors intrepeted different on same scriptures to lead people to beleive/decide which bible are right for them.

Example: A christian said JW's bible is not correct but JW said that christianity's bible is not correct. Why could they say this because they feel in their heart that one of different religions is right for them thru read the bible. This is a influence.

Yes, I rather to read the bible story as history like accept where we come from instead of tell you that your bible is wrong and my bible is right. I don´t bother to know what the scriptures/vereus says because I don't know either the interpretation is correct or not. All what I want to read the bible story as history instead of do what the bible says. No matter which bibles... just bible story as history...

I have no problem with the people who speaks/write the bibles - I accept it as history....... but I has the problem that the people who become different religions and fight each other to tell each other that their bibles are wrong and right etc. You go hell if you do not accept God, judge each other etc. etc. etc.

lumbingmi · 02-10-2008, 02:59 PM

Weak people need something to believe in. Weak people like to be led rather than taking their own actions. Weak people are afraid of what will happen to them afterlife. Weak people are easily brainwashed. Weak people are perfect candidate for zealots, leaders, or prophet.

So yes religion does matter.

**shel90** · 02-10-2008, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Yes, that's problem is the author of different religions interpreted their bibles differently to brainwash the people when they beleive in one God, many or idols. That's why I don't have any religion to choose but netural. I cannot say anything against their beliefs because they choose to beleive in but I can say something what I know from bible story (not scriptures or verus).

I guess it would be different story if we all have only one path to the one bible or many bibles with same interpretation, don´t we?

The bible authors intrepeted different on same scriptures to lead people to beleive/decide which bible are right for them.

Example: A christian said JW's bible is not correct but JW said that christianity's bible is not correct. Why could they say this because they feel in their heart that one of different religions is right for them thru read the bible. This is a influence.

Yes, I rather to read the bible story as history like accept where we come from instead of tell you that your bible is wrong and my bible is right. I don´t bother to know what the scriptures/vereus says because I don't know either the interpretation is correct or not. All what I want to read the bible story as history instead of do what the bible says. No matter which bibles... just bible story as history...

I have no problem with the people who speaks/write the bibles - I accept it as history....... but I has the problem that the people who become different religions and fight each other to tell each other that their bibles are wrong and right etc. You go hell if you do not accept God, judge each other etc. etc. etc.

That is what turned me off from religion. I didnt appreciate many people telling me that. Just seems so negative, ya know?

Anyways...yes all those wars over religion is really unfortunate. Too many innocent people die and for what?

**Liebling:-)))** · 02-10-2008, 03:21 PM

*nodding sadly*

I found interesting and going to type and copy what my bible wrote.

All religions are good, many people say. "They are simply different roads leading to the same place." If this were true, your religion would not really matter, for it would mean that all religions are acceptable to God. But are they?

When Jesus Christ walked the earth, there was a religious group known as the Pharisees. Theyhad built up a system of worship and beleived it had God´s approval. Yet, at the same time, the Pharisees were trying to kill Jesus! So Jesus told them: "You do the works of your father." In answer they said: "We have one Father, God." - John 8:41.

Was God really their father? Did God accept their form of relgions? Not at all! Even though the Pharisees had the Scriptures and thought they were following them, they had been misled by the Devil. And Jesus told them so, saying: "You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, ... he is a liar and the father of the lie." - John 8:44

Clearly, the religion of the Pharisees was false. It served the interest of the Devil, not God. So rather than viewing their religion as good, Jesus condemned it,. He said to those religious Pharisees: "You shut up the kingdom of the heavens before men; for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way in to go in." (Matthew 23:13) Because of their false worship, Jesus called those Pharisees hypocrites and poisonous snakes. Because of their bad course, he said that they were on the way to destruction - Matthew 23:25:33.

So Jesus Christ did not teach that all religions are simply different roads leading to the same place of salvation. In his famous Sermon on the Mount, jesus said: "Go in through the narrow gate; because boroad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction and many are the ones going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it." (Matthew 7:13, 14) Because they fail to worship God in the right way, most persons are on the road to destruction. Only a few are on the road leading to life.

"A look at the way God dealt with the nation of Israel makes it clear how important it is to worship God in the way that he approves. God warned the Israelities to keep away from the false religion of the nations round about them. (Deuteronomy 7:25) ...

Hwy99 · 02-10-2008, 05:25 PM

I guess I am going to answer as best as I can.

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Question:

What do some people beleive about religion?

Some people feel like their religion was a truth for them, and some of them feel need something to be faith into, which makes them to have a religion. That's my opinion..

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How do you think God feels about what religion have done during war time?

I don't know about God's view about the wars, even God himself had war before. So I don't know about that...

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How do you feel that many people kill each other due their different religion belief?

They absolutely have no respect!

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Did God accept people´s form of religion?

Well I don't know about that..

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Were the religious leaders who were trying to kill Jesus worship God?

Yes, believe it or not. There are many of people (especially Islam) who believe God which are against Christinaity is because they believe that the old testament is God's final word and the New Testament are just a man making it up, which was Jesus. Please correct me if I was wrong on this one.

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What about the hundreds of religion at present time?

Yea, there are. They are just the religion that people feel like whichever was right for them.

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Do you agree that those religion are false?

Well accusing other religion that they are all wrong, false teaching, bullshit, etc are not really my thing..

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How do you know worship to God in the way to be acceptance?

I don't worship to God, or anyone, nor anything.

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Do you really beleive that the church is acceptance to God?

Well I don't know about that.. JW believe Christianity are wrong, and Christianity believe JW are wrong, Mormon believe JW are wrong, etc etc while they all use the same book so I don't know which was right.

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How do you know that your religion´s bible is correct ?

By my own heart, but to the Dharma, not the bible

**Cheri** · 02-10-2008, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

I don't know about God's view about the wars, even God himself had war before. So I don't know about that...

Where's your source that God had a war?

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Originally Posted by Puyo

Yes, believe it or not. There are many of people (especially Islam) who believe God which are against Christinaity is because they believe that the old testament is God's final word and the New Testament are just a man making it up, which was Jesus. Please correct me if I was wrong on this one.

Huh??

Hwy99 · 02-10-2008, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Where's your source that God had a war?

Between Him and the Evil.

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Huh??

*nods* It's true. That is what Islam is, they don't follow the New Testament, only the Old Testament. They don't believe Jesus, which mean they don't believe the New Testament. That also include Jews too.

**Cheri** · 02-10-2008, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Between Him and the Evil.

What war had happened between God and Satan? You mean Satan's War Against God and Satan's war against the people of God? Satan cannot defeat God, God has more power than Satan does, Satan is a fallen angel.

Askjo · 02-10-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Yes, that's problem is the author of different religions interpreted their bibles differently to brainwash the people when they beleive in one God, many or idols. That's why I don't have any religion to choose but netural. I cannot say anything against their beliefs because they choose to beleive in but I can say something what I know from bible story (not scriptures or verus).

These false religions brainwashed many people, but this true religion does not.

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I guess it would be different story if we all have only one path to the one bible or many bibles with same interpretation, don´t we?

You pick up: The ACCURACY or the CORRUPT -- which Bible do you prefer?

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The bible authors intrepeted different on same scriptures to lead people to beleive/decide which bible are right for them.

Example: A christian said JW's bible is not correct but JW said that christianity's bible is not correct. Why could they say this because they feel in their heart that one of different religions is right for them thru read the bible. This is a influence.

Why do you think JW is true?

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Yes, I rather to read the bible story as history like accept where we come from instead of tell you that your bible is wrong and my bible is right. I don´t bother to know what the scriptures/vereus says because I don't know either the interpretation is correct or not. All what I want to read the bible story as history instead of do what the bible says. No matter which bibles... just bible story as history...

Yes, the Bible is FACTUAL history. The Old Testament tells you about the history of Jews only. The New Testament tells you about Jesus and YOU, even the church. Remember that ALL the people is under the Bible.

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I have no problem with the people who speaks/write the bibles - I accept it as history....... but I has the problem that the people who become different religions and fight each other to tell each other that their bibles are wrong and right etc. You go hell if you do not accept God, judge each other etc. etc. etc.

Why are you interested in different religions MORE than the Bible?

Hwy99 · 02-10-2008, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

What war had happened between God and Satan? You mean Satan's War Against God and Satan's war against the people of God? Satan cannot defeat God, God has more power than Satan does, Satan is a fallen angel.

Yupp, but that's not only war God was involved, God destroy many things like the dinosaurs, etc.

**Cheri** · 02-10-2008, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Yupp, but that's not only war God was involved, God destroy many things like the dinosaurs, etc.

You're speaking of the great flood during Noah's time?

Within good reasons, God said to Noah, "I have determined to make an end of all flesh; for the earth is filled with violence through them; behold, I will destroy them with the earth".

And God says to Noah, "Take with you seven pairs of all clean animals, the male and his mate; and a pair of the animals that are not clean, the male and his mate; and seven pairs of the birds of the air also, male and female, to keep their kind alive upon the face of all the earth."

God would not spare those who has sinned, just the same way God did not spare the angels when they sinned. There is no differences.

Hwy99 · 02-10-2008, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

You're speaking of the great flood during Noah's time?

Not only that, but others as well..

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Within good reasons, God said to Noah, "I have determined to make an end of all flesh; for the earth is filled with violence through them; behold, I will destroy them with the earth".

And God says to Noah, "Take with you seven pairs of all clean animals, the male and his mate; and a pair of the animals that are not clean, the male and his mate; and seven pairs of the birds of the air also, male and female, to keep their kind alive upon the face of all the earth."

God would not spare those who has sinned, just the same way God did not spare the angels when they sinned. There is no differences.

I see, thank you for explaination about the Noah's Ark situation

**Cheri** · 02-10-2008, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

Not only that, but others as well..

Nope, God only flood Noah's time then He sent Jesus, His only Son, to die on the cross for us.

Hwy99 · 02-10-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Nope, God only flood Noah's time then He sent Jesus, His only Son, to die on the cross for us.

What about the dinosaurs that God destroyed?

XBGMER · 02-10-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Question:

What do some people beleive about religion?

I was used to attend the church, Christians and Pastor said to me that The church will save christians and even rapture them after church destory by the wicked world. Thats why christians had been brianwashed by pastor. sad *sigh*

How do you think God feels about what religion have done during war time?

No, I don't think so God feel about situation's war times. People created the religion done during war times. look at Islam, Followers and Islam leader made war against jews and even against christian followers. Like Germany and catholic created religion to made war against jews who live in gremany.

How do you feel that many people kill each other due their different religion belief?

Oh Definitely True!

Did God accept people´s form of religion?

Mmmm..

Were the religious leaders who were trying to kill Jesus worship God?

To me, Yes the religion jewish leaders were trying to kill him which worship God.

What about the hundreds of religion at present time?

I never thought of this question you bring up.

Do you agree that those religion are false?

I respect other religion's own, which is not my things.

How do you know worship to God in the way to be acceptance?

Like Abel and Cain's story in Genesis 4 chapter.

Do you really beleive that the church is acceptance to God?

To me, I don't. Most christans said that the church is acceptance to God and serve God.

How do you know that your religion´s bible is correct ?

I don't have any religion nor church goers. I am biblical believer only.

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XBGMER · 02-10-2008, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

Weak people need something to believe in. Weak people like to be led rather than taking their own actions. Weak people are afraid of what will happen to them afterlife. Weak people are easily brainwashed. Weak people are perfect candidate for zealots, leaders, or prophet.

So yes religion does matter.

Lumb, **nod**-Yes thats true.

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

I guess I am going to answer as best as I can.

Some people feel like their religion was a truth for them, and some of them feel need something to be faith into, which makes them to have a religion. That's my opinion..

I don't know about God's view about the wars, even God himself had war before. So I don't know about that...

They absolutely have no respect!

Yes, of course people have no respect other people's traditional, cultural, worshipping, and belief.

Well I don't know about that..

Yes, believe it or not. There are many of people (especially Islam) who believe God which are against Christinaity is because they believe that the old testament is God's final word and the New Testament are just a man making it up, which was Jesus. Please correct me if I was wrong on this one.

Islam don't believe Jesus is the God nor the son of God, thats it. I don't know why, dont ask me, then ask islam. Ha

Yea, there are. They are just the religion that people feel like whichever was right for them.

I can't change nor judge their religion, Yes its up to people to choice for their reasons.

Well accusing other religion that they are all wrong, false teaching, bullshit, etc are not really my thing..

I don't worship to God, or anyone, nor anything.

Me either, I don't worship to Jesus as the white man of idol like pictures, movie, images on wall the people created!

Well I don't know about that.. JW believe Christianity are wrong, and Christianity believe JW are wrong, Mormon believe JW are wrong, etc etc while they all use the same book so I don't know which was right.

Yes thats exactly what I thoughts!

By my own heart, but to the Dharma, not the bible

Yes I do respect you and heart to the Dharma.

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Originally Posted by Cheri

What war had happened between God and Satan? You mean Satan's War Against God and Satan's war against the people of God? Satan cannot defeat God, God has more power than Satan does, Satan is a fallen angel.

Oh God can't defeat Satan. Satan has more power than God does, did you know that?

Where it says that Satan is a "fallen angel" in the scripture?, prove me please..

**Cheri** · 02-10-2008, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PuyoPiyo

What about the dinosaurs that God destroyed?

Dinosaurs were around when Adam and Eve were around, In bible (Genesis 1:29-30) the animals God created were vegetarians. When Adam rebelled against God bringing sin into the world, they all got kicked out of the Garden of Eden. Dinosaurs die on their own, God did not kill them.

lumbingmi · 02-10-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Dinosaurs die on their own

WTF? No they die out due to asteriod impact. If Dinosaurs are still roaming on the earth, I dont think human would surivive unless God send fireball to earth to wipe out dinosaurs to allow human civilization to grow.

**Cheri** · 02-10-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XBGMER

Oh God can't defeat Satan. Satan has more power than God does, did you know that?

No Satan does not have more power than God.

God even took away some of Satan's power after Jesus died on the cross for us.

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Where it says that Satan is a "fallen angel" in the scripture?, prove me please..

No problem!! Lucifer aka Satan’s fall from heaven is described in (Isaiah 14:12)

"How art thou afallen from bheaven, O cLucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the dnations!"

GarnetTigerMom · 02-10-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

Dinosaurs were around when Adam and Eve were around, In bible (Genesis 1:29-30) the animals God created were vegetarians. When Adam rebelled against God bringing sin into the world, they all got kicked out of the Garden of Eden. Dinosaurs die on their own, God did not kill them.

Funny to mention the dinosaurs, And yeah that true the were here first on earth but they sure were not listed in the bible. But the a giant asteroid crashed into the coast of Mexico nearly 65 million years ago. That what really killed the dinosaurs. :-)

**Cheri** · 02-10-2008, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

WTF? No they die out due to asteriod impact. If Dinosaurs are still roaming on the earth, I dont think human would surivive unless God send fireball to earth to wipe out dinosaurs to allow human civilization to grow.

I don't believe Dinosaurs died from asteriod impact, It was never prove as accurate. It's a mystery on how Dinosaurs really had died.

Boult · 02-10-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Question:

What do some people beleive about religion?

How do you think God feels about what religion have done during war time?

How do you feel that many people kill each other due their different religion belief?

Did God accept people´s form of religion?

Were the religious leaders who were trying to kill Jesus worship God?

What about the hundreds of religion at present time?

Do you agree that those religion are false?

How do you know worship to God in the way to be acceptance?

Do you really beleive that the church is acceptance to God?

How do you know that your religion´s bible is correct ?

see my post;
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lumbingmi · 02-10-2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cheri

I don't believe Dinosaurs died from asteriod impact, It was never prove as accurate. It's a mystery on how Dinosaurs really had died.

Are u kidding me? How MANY huge creatures could die in one swoon fall? It take reallly mass destruction to wipe out nearly all HUGE creatures and it has been proved that dinosaurs were wiped by asteroid among scientists community. I think i ll take their words over your word.

By the way, if you believe that fossils are real then you should know that the age of dinosaurs' fossils are in same period or years.

**Cheri** · 02-10-2008, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

Are u kidding me? How MANY huge creatures could die in one swoon fall? It take reallly mass destruction to wipe out nearly all HUGE creatures and it has been proved that dinosaurs were wiped by asteroid among scientists community. I think i ll take their words over your word.

By the way, if you believe that fossils are real then you should know that the age of dinosaurs' fossils are in same period or years.

I never claimed that you should take my word for it, I'm just stating on what I believe. Ok?

And second of all anyone can make a mistake even scientists so do I trust everything scientists says? no.

***VamPyroX*** · 02-11-2008, 12:05 AM

Religion is simply a form of worship or belief that people have in a god or gods.

There's "God", "Buddha", "Allah", etc... but who is the real god?

What if there's actually more than one god? What if there is no god?

If we look at history... there are Roman gods, Greek gods, Indian gods, Mayan gods, etc.

What if they are simply forms of advanced beings from other planets, the future, or people who simply had advanced knowledge of technology.

Magic is misunderstood or unknown technology.

Suppose I go back and meet a caveman. I simply pull out a lighter and light it up. *gasps* I'm now labeled as a Fire God! A religion has been born!

**Liebling:-)))** · 02-11-2008, 07:10 AM

for post to share your interesting POV on my thread here. I am going to quote the question of my thread first before quote part of your posts later.

**Liebling:-)))** · 02-11-2008, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Question:

I already answered those question in my post #3. All for that I quoted each question to answer.

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What do some people beleive about religion?

Well, the people are being brainwashed to become kind of religion because they think one of many bibles are right and true for them. If they are happy what they are then is good for them.

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How do you think God feels about what religion have done during war time?

Why should God feel about those religion war because he has nothing do with those war but the people themselves!!!

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How do you feel that many people kill each other due their different religion belief?

Very sad - Religion is mainly blame why they kill/hate each other... .

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Did God accept people´s form of religion?

No, God has nothing do with religion but the people themselves who created form of religion.

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Were the religious leaders who were trying to kill Jesus worship God?

Yes

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What about the hundreds of religion at present time?

Unfortunlately yes, they choose kind of religion what they think is right for them and beleive their bible are true.

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Do you agree that those religion are false?

No, I don't want to agree that those religion are false but respect their choice of become religion believers.

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How do you know worship to God in the way to be acceptance?

I only know that worship God EVERYWHERE, not in the church or worship idols, etc.

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Do you really beleive that the church is acceptance to God?

Accord my bible - No.

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How do you know that your religion´s bible is correct ?

That's why I can't answer to this question because I don't know which bible of different religion is correct but collect different bibles and repsect their beleif when I beleive different as them. I beleive in reality.

Secretblend · 02-11-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GarnetTigerMom

Funny to mention the dinosaurs, And yeah that true the were here first on earth but they sure were not listed in the bible. But the a giant asteroid crashed into the coast of Mexico nearly 65 million years ago. That what really killed the dinosaurs. :-)

Number 1: Carbon dating is flawed.

THE PROBLEMS WITH CARBON-14 DATING

Number 2: Dinosaurs were mentioned in the Bible.

Are Dinosaurs in the Bible? Behemoth Dinosaur Creation Evolution

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Originally Posted by lumbingmi

Are u kidding me? How MANY huge creatures could die in one swoon fall? It take reallly mass destruction to wipe out nearly all HUGE creatures and it has been proved that dinosaurs were wiped by asteroid among scientists community. I think i ll take their words over your word.

By the way, if you believe that fossils are real then you should know that the age of dinosaurs' fossils are in same period or years.

Please provide proof that the scientist has of dinosuars being killed by asteroids.

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Liebling:-))) Sussi 7.7.86 - 18.6.09 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 31,038	Does religion really matter? Question: What do some people beleive about religion? How do you think God feels about what religion have done during war time? How do you feel that many people kill each other due their different religion belief? Did God accept people´s form of religion? Were the religious leaders who were trying to kill Jesus worship God? What about the hundreds of religion at present time? Do you agree that those religion are false? How do you know worship to God in the way to be acceptance? Do you really beleive that the church is acceptance to God? How do you know that your religion´s bible is correct ? __________________

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shel90 Let It Snow!!!! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: A place where crabs are popular Posts: 40,271 Blog Entries: 3	I was baptized Catholic and did learn about it but then I decided that religion is not for me. I cant answer why religion should matter. It means a lot to some people so they are probably better than me in answering. All I know is that I am like u Liebling...how does one know their religion is right and so on. __________________ "Wine improves with age. The older I get, the better I like it." --- Anonymous

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Liebling:-))) Sussi 7.7.86 - 18.6.09 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 31,038	Yes, that's problem is the author of different religions interpreted their bibles differently to brainwash the people when they beleive in one God, many or idols. That's why I don't have any religion to choose but netural. I cannot say anything against their beliefs because they choose to beleive in but I can say something what I know from bible story (not scriptures or verus). I guess it would be different story if we all have only one path to the one bible or many bibles with same interpretation, don´t we? The bible authors intrepeted different on same scriptures to lead people to beleive/decide which bible are right for them. Example: A christian said JW's bible is not correct but JW said that christianity's bible is not correct. Why could they say this because they feel in their heart that one of different religions is right for them thru read the bible. This is a influence. Yes, I rather to read the bible story as history like accept where we come from instead of tell you that your bible is wrong and my bible is right. I don´t bother to know what the scriptures/vereus says because I don't know either the interpretation is correct or not. All what I want to read the bible story as history instead of do what the bible says. No matter which bibles... just bible story as history... I have no problem with the people who speaks/write the bibles - I accept it as history....... but I has the problem that the people who become different religions and fight each other to tell each other that their bibles are wrong and right etc. You go hell if you do not accept God, judge each other etc. etc. etc. __________________

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lumbingmi Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,460	Weak people need something to believe in. Weak people like to be led rather than taking their own actions. Weak people are afraid of what will happen to them afterlife. Weak people are easily brainwashed. Weak people are perfect candidate for zealots, leaders, or prophet. So yes religion does matter. __________________ Picard: Seize the time, Meribor, live now. Make now always the most precious time. Now will never come again. Meribor: I love you, father. If you can read this, thank a teacher. If you can read this in English, thank a veteran.

02-10-2008, 03:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Sussi 7.7.86 - 18.6.09 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 31,038	nodding sadly I found interesting and going to type and copy what my bible wrote. All religions are good, many people say. "They are simply different roads leading to the same place." If this were true, your religion would not really matter, for it would mean that all religions are acceptable to God. But are they? When Jesus Christ walked the earth, there was a religious group known as the Pharisees. Theyhad built up a system of worship and beleived it had God´s approval. Yet, at the same time, the Pharisees were trying to kill Jesus! So Jesus told them: "You do the works of your father." In answer they said: "We have one Father, God." - John 8:41. Was God really their father? Did God accept their form of relgions? Not at all! Even though the Pharisees had the Scriptures and thought they were following them, they had been misled by the Devil. And Jesus told them so, saying: "You are from your father the Devil, and you wish to do the desires of your father. That one was a manslayer when he began, and he did not stand fast in the truth, ... he is a liar and the father of the lie." - John 8:44 Clearly, the religion of the Pharisees was false. It served the interest of the Devil, not God. So rather than viewing their religion as good, Jesus condemned it,. He said to those religious Pharisees: "You shut up the kingdom of the heavens before men; for you yourselves do not go in, neither do you permit those on their way in to go in." (Matthew 23:13) Because of their false worship, Jesus called those Pharisees hypocrites and poisonous snakes. Because of their bad course, he said that they were on the way to destruction - Matthew 23:25:33. So Jesus Christ did not teach that all religions are simply different roads leading to the same place of salvation. In his famous Sermon on the Mount, jesus said: "Go in through the narrow gate; because boroad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction and many are the ones going in through it; whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it." (Matthew 7:13, 14) Because they fail to worship God in the right way, most persons are on the road to destruction. Only a few are on the road leading to life. "A look at the way God dealt with the nation of Israel makes it clear how important it is to worship God in the way that he approves. God warned the Israelities to keep away from the false religion of the nations round about them. (Deuteronomy 7:25) ... __________________

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02-11-2008, 12:05 AM	#27 (permalink)
*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: 40.18, 58.41 Posts: 34,136	Religion is simply a form of worship or belief that people have in a god or gods. There's "God", "Buddha", "Allah", etc... but who is the real god? What if there's actually more than one god? What if there is no god? If we look at history... there are Roman gods, Greek gods, Indian gods, Mayan gods, etc. What if they are simply forms of advanced beings from other planets, the future, or people who simply had advanced knowledge of technology. Magic is misunderstood or unknown technology. Suppose I go back and meet a caveman. I simply pull out a lighter and light it up. gasps I'm now labeled as a Fire God! A religion has been born! __________________ Check out my city... C L I C K H E R E! (If you've already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

02-11-2008, 07:10 AM	#28 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Sussi 7.7.86 - 18.6.09 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 31,038	for post to share your interesting POV on my thread here. I am going to quote the question of my thread first before quote part of your posts later. __________________

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