Old Testament vs New Testament

**Liebling:-)))** · 05-03-2007, 07:02 AM

Can you explain the difference between the Old and New Testanment?

Why they are different?

Come and discuss...

**Liebling:-)))** · 05-03-2007, 07:21 AM

Why Did God Change His Mind? Old Testament versus New Testament.

ATHEIST: It says in Deuteronomy that nonbelievers and fags should be
killed.

CHRISTIAN: Jesus invalidated the Old Testament.

ATHEIST: Why do you still use it if it's obsolete?

CHRISTIAN: Well, it has historical importance.

ATHEIST: Well, it _influenced_ history...but that doesn't mean what
happened in it is true, does it?

CHRISTIAN: It's true.

ATHEIST: Evidence?

CHRISTIAN: The Bible. Faith. The flood thing.

ATHEIST: Um, that isn't evidence. None of that is evidence. The Bible
is assertions, religious faith is a substitute for evidence and the
alleged evidence of the flood thing has been refuted repeatedly.

CHRISTIAN: Well, as a Christian I follow Christ's teachings anyway.

ATHEIST: Didn't Christ say in Matthew 5 that he didn't intend to
devalue the laws of the prophets?

CHRISTIAN: Yes, "until it is finished". When he died, his last words
were "it is finished".

ATHEIST: Well...Matthew 27 says: And about the ninth hour Jesus cried
with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to
say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he
cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost." And Luke 23:46
says: And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father,
unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up
the ghost. And John 19:30 says: When Jesus therefore had received the
vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up
the ghost.

CHRISTIAN: Well, they were standing at different distances from the
cross so they heard different things.

ATHEIST: Maybe, but damn--Christ sure seems to have some mixed
sentiments there. Anyway, let's assume that God did want the laws
changed from the Old Testament.

CHRISTIAN: Thank you.

ATHEIST: Very welcome. It's not like you have a chance without a
handicap anyway. My question to you is: why did God change His mind?

CHRISTIAN: Because the world changed.

ATHEIST: So God's nature is influenced by the world?

CHRISTIAN: Um, um...sure. Yes, I mean no, I mean yes.

ATHEIST: So how has His nature changed since the New Testament?

CHRISTIAN: It hasn't.

ATHEIST: Why not?

CHRISTIAN: Because the world hasn't changed in the past two millenia.

ATHEIST: Okaaay. Well, isn't the God of the Old Testament a hypocrite
anyway--with the genocide and the not killing people and all that?

CHRISTIAN: God's a nice guy now. He just burns people forever anyway
because that's what you do when someone you love disagrees with you.

Why Did God Change His Mind? Old Testament versus New Testament. - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups

**Cheri** · 05-03-2007, 08:15 AM

Eh? God did not change his mind about anything, in fact in the Old Testament, Ever since the fall in the Garden of Eden, humankind has been less than it was created to be. We are under a curse in result of death and need of a Savior to save us, In the Old Testament God talked about his promise, about a Messiah. You have an Old Testament of people who disobey God from the begin he created Adam and Eve, to the end before Jesus arrives to earth. God showed patience

Then You have new Testament where The birth, life and death of the Lord Jesus changed everything, Jesus was crucified for our sins, the Savior to save us. The day when Jesus will return, as the Lord, In judgment, he will condemn all the nations of the world for their sin. God’s holy nature does not change. He is the same God in the Old Testament as He is in the New Testament, the only thing is different is we are allow to repent our sins, before we weren't allow to, because there was no blood of a sinless person to clean our sins.

DreamSlayer · 05-03-2007, 08:16 AM

Hebrews 10:1The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship.

Matthew 5:17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

There are a few questions that need to be answered, so I will be back later.
However, Jesus didn't 'erase' the Law. Christians believe he fulfilled it, meaning that, Humans break the Law, and need to pay the consequence. Jesus paid that consequence for us, but the Law is still relevant.

christlovedeaf · 05-03-2007, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Why Did God Change His Mind? Old Testament versus New Testament.

ATHEIST: It says in Deuteronomy that nonbelievers and fags should be
killed.

CHRISTIAN: Jesus invalidated the Old Testament.

ATHEIST: Why do you still use it if it's obsolete?

CHRISTIAN: Well, it has historical importance.

ATHEIST: Well, it _influenced_ history...but that doesn't mean what
happened in it is true, does it?

CHRISTIAN: It's true.

ATHEIST: Evidence?

CHRISTIAN: The Bible. Faith. The flood thing.

ATHEIST: Um, that isn't evidence. None of that is evidence. The Bible
is assertions, religious faith is a substitute for evidence and the
alleged evidence of the flood thing has been refuted repeatedly.

CHRISTIAN: Well, as a Christian I follow Christ's teachings anyway.

ATHEIST: Didn't Christ say in Matthew 5 that he didn't intend to
devalue the laws of the prophets?

CHRISTIAN: Yes, "until it is finished". When he died, his last words
were "it is finished".

ATHEIST: Well...Matthew 27 says: And about the ninth hour Jesus cried
with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to
say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he
cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost." And Luke 23:46
says: And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father,
unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up
the ghost. And John 19:30 says: When Jesus therefore had received the
vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up
the ghost.

CHRISTIAN: Well, they were standing at different distances from the
cross so they heard different things.

ATHEIST: Maybe, but damn--Christ sure seems to have some mixed
sentiments there. Anyway, let's assume that God did want the laws
changed from the Old Testament.

CHRISTIAN: Thank you.

ATHEIST: Very welcome. It's not like you have a chance without a
handicap anyway. My question to you is: why did God change His mind?

CHRISTIAN: Because the world changed.

ATHEIST: So God's nature is influenced by the world?

CHRISTIAN: Um, um...sure. Yes, I mean no, I mean yes.

ATHEIST: So how has His nature changed since the New Testament?

CHRISTIAN: It hasn't.

ATHEIST: Why not?

CHRISTIAN: Because the world hasn't changed in the past two millenia.

ATHEIST: Okaaay. Well, isn't the God of the Old Testament a hypocrite
anyway--with the genocide and the not killing people and all that?

CHRISTIAN: God's a nice guy now. He just burns people forever anyway
because that's what you do when someone you love disagrees with you.

Why Did God Change His Mind? Old Testament versus New Testament. - Atheism vs Christianity | Google Groups

I agree with dreamslayer, and yet will bring out more. In book of Isaiah where God mentioned, that propeshied will have New Covenant. what is the New Covenant? That's described of Jesus. Mentioned on the cross. The reason Jesus cried out is bec all of our sins, past, present and future were in Christ Himself, and become sin for us, and Father forsook Jesus, bec sin in Jesus, that is our sins in Him. And that's where Jesus get His glory back after He was rose again. There are lot of evidences in Red Sea, crucifixion, Ark and etc. Many try to manipulate what has happen in histories. But as a comment and using how christian respond isn't so or may coming from babe in Christ. Like this more like as of assumption and huge missing point of the Bible and christians belief.

Throwstones · 05-03-2007, 11:13 AM

I personally believe that Old Testament and New Testament are shown the fulfillment of prophecy of Messiah Jesus which is required a match the bible we all believe in. Also, God is true GOD and author of the Bible. Show you the comparison of Old and New Testament:

"My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?" Psalms 22:1 (Old Testament)

"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli Eli, lama sabachthani? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Matthew27:46 (New Testament)

You see that Old and New Testament are true messages of prophecies. Now if no one believes in New Testament or Old Testament; therefore there is no good as it considers to be VOID!

Old Testament is revealing future prophecy of Jesus' coming and Revelation. New Testament is revealing the past prophecy and future prophecy of Revelation.

***VamPyroX*** · 05-03-2007, 12:41 PM

Old Testament: God is supposedly around.

New Testament: God supposedly disappeared.

**Maria** · 05-03-2007, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Old Testament: God is supposedly around.

New Testament: God supposedly disappeared.

Old Testament : God was around for years until.....

In the New Testament : God was born in the flesh named " Jesus " ( Immanuel : " God with us " ).

Hwy99 · 05-03-2007, 01:28 PM

Old testament was used by Islamic, Muslim, and Judaism, and those religions rejected New Testament and don't believe that Jesus was a saviour. New Testament was used by Christianity and its root, also still use the old testament too. That's all I know about the difference about old and new.

Tousi · 05-03-2007, 01:59 PM

Dunno why Leibling started this thread because I thought she was happy as a Satanist.....

**Maria** · 05-03-2007, 02:03 PM

Very funny, Tousi !!

**Cheri** · 05-03-2007, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria

Old Testament : God was around for years until.....

In the New Testament : God was born in the flesh named " Jesus " ( Immanuel : " God with us " ).

You read my mind, that what I was gonna say.

XBGMER · 05-03-2007, 04:39 PM

Let me tell you, there is no different thru between old and new testment. then why old and new testment story in bible talk specify about israel's land, egypt's land on and on.. nothing different from old and new testment.

Old and New testmant had the same idenity itself.. Like elisha rise little child from dead and jesus rise lazarus from dead.. there is no different between..

Remember Jesus told leader jews, he wasnt come to destory old, all prophets. he proved them that old of prophets fuliflled and can't broken.

Cane Corso · 05-03-2007, 05:17 PM

There was never a god. Yes, that will make me an atheist. No wonder why Christians refused to teach or take a class on evolution. I do not care much about the Old and New Testaments, they are just a story.

xentar · 05-03-2007, 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cane Corso

There was never a god. Yes, that will make me an atheist. No wonder why Christians refused to teach or take a class on evolution. I do not care much about the Old and New Testaments, they are just a story.

People should just convert to Spaghetti Monsterism. Tates great and less filling.

**Cheri** · 05-03-2007, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cane Corso

There was never a god. Yes, that will make me an atheist. No wonder why Christians refused to teach or take a class on evolution. I do not care much about the Old and New Testaments, they are just a story.

Where did it say if there's a God or not? Look at the title of this thread, It says "Old Testament vs New Testament". I don't understand why members can't read anything, but open their mouth and say whatever they want. If you don't care for Old and New Testaments then why are you here?

**Reba** · 05-03-2007, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cane Corso

... No wonder why Christians refused to teach or take a class on evolution. ...

I'm a Christian, and I've had lots of classes about evolution, read books about it, etc., especially during my public school and college years. Most Christians don't refuse teaching or learning about evolution; we just want it taught as a theory, and to give equal time to Creationism.

But we're getting

xentar · 05-03-2007, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheri

Where did it say if there's a God or not? Look at the title of this thread, It says "Old Testament vs New Testament". I don't understand why members can't read anything, but open their mouth and say whatever they want. If you don't care for Old and New Testaments then why are you here?

Try reading other member's posts in here. Some of them are claiming that God is the true God and the author. Others chimed in about God as well. She came in to tell us there is no God, thus invalidating the old/new testaments in one fell swoop.

Really, it isn't that hard.

**Reba** · 05-03-2007, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tousi

Dunno why Leibling started this thread because I thought she was happy as a Satanist.....

Interesting point.

Funny thing; Satan never denied that God existed, nor did he deny the deity of Christ. Satan and his demons knew that Jesus was God. That's why they try so hard to destroy Christ's reputation in the world.

**Cheri** · 05-03-2007, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xentar

Try reading other member's posts in here. Some of them are claiming that God is the true God and the author.

The evidence of authority:The Bible claims to be the word of God, a true revelation of the Creator for the people of this planet to hear, believe and obey. In the bible, it shows the evidence of historical verification, The evidence of predictive prophecy, The evidence of textual accuracy, and the evidence of objectivity.

Cane Corso thinks it just a story taler, It's not a "story" There are many other reasons why the Bible can be trusted, and we trusted it.

I don't need someone to come in here without knowledge of the bible to claim that there's no God.

xentar · 05-03-2007, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reba

I'm a Christian, and I've had lots of classes about evolution, read books about it, etc., especially during my public school and college years. Most Christians don't refuse teaching or learning about evolution; we just want it taught as a theory, and to give equal time to Creationism.

But we're getting

I feel like I have to repeat myself here, I've mentioned this in an earlier thread.

I sincerely hope you know what a theory is in a scientific context.

Theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In scientific usage, a theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it often does in other contexts. A theory is a logically self-consistent model or framework for describing the behavior of a related set of natural or social phenomena..."

As creationism is based on religious axioms rather than empirical research, it falls outside of the mainstream scope of scholarly science. As science does not attempt to address issues of supernatural intervention in natural phenomena, the consensus of most scientists is to reject any teaching of creationism a science.

Someone should start a thread on evolution vs creationism.

xentar · 05-03-2007, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheri

The evidence of authority:The Bible claims to be the word of God, a true revelation of the Creator for the people of this planet to hear, believe and obey. In the bible, it shows the evidence of historical verification, The evidence of predictive prophecy, The evidence of textual accuracy, and the evidence of objectivity.

Lots of claims of evidence....but no evident provided. Face it, it's all about faith here. You didn't turn to God because of evidence, but because of faith and hope.

Predictive prophecy?
"Show me a BIBLICAL prophecy that failed and I'll shut up."

The #1 Rule for Effective Prophecy Writing: Never set a date. That way, you can never be wrong.

Show me a Biblical prophecy that *can* fail, because... as written... they can't.

Textual accuracy?
I can spend all day listing out the inaccuracies and contradictions founded in the bible.

Objectivity?
....objectivity?!?! The bible and its authors are neutral? Not bias at all? Well that's a new one for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheri

Cane Corso thinks it just a story taler, It's not a "story" There are many other reasons why the Bible can be trusted, and we trusted it.

There are also many reasons why the bible cannot be trusted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheri

I don't need someone to come in here without knowledge of the bible to claim that there's no God.

There is no god.

**Maria** · 05-03-2007, 07:24 PM

Would you care to start a new thread on Evolution vs Creationism, Xentar ?

**Cheri** · 05-03-2007, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xentar

Lots of claims of evidence....but no evident provided. Face it, it's all about faith here. You didn't turn to God because of evidence, but because of faith and hope.

I'm sorry, But, You're wrong. It's not only by faith, but also by evidence that showed me that the bible is the truth.

What do you say about how the world is today? God explained the "sin" It's the behavior, attitudes and motives that are ever present in the human condition. Whole person, what he thinks, what she says and what he does. Our soul, body, heart, mind, and strength, are corrupted by sin. Even mention that in the bible. Also God talked about "A Messiah was coming" Jesus came. That's enough to prove to me that the bible is true, and the word of God.

There are lots of religions, philosophies, and ideas out there, They all claim to know the reality and the truth. What do you know? Were you there? People are trying to be their own kings, running their own lives think they know everything but they don't.

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There are also many reasons why the bible cannot be trusted. There is no god.

That's your opinion, Like I said before, You trying to act like a "king" running your own life thinking you got all the answers for everything. Whatever floats your boat.

**Maria** · 05-03-2007, 08:53 PM

Oh, yeah... God is not interested in people's intelligence up there in the head *pointin' the head* but, inside the heart, God is very much interested.

xentar · 05-03-2007, 09:21 PM

"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."

This is all anyone really needs to know to figure out the mainstream religions...

Hwy99 · 05-03-2007, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria

Would you care to start a new thread on Evolution vs Creationism, Xentar ?

I was going to say the same thing! lol. Please, Xentar?

While my religion is athesit too

(Theravada Buddhism, if you want to know which)

EagleCherokee63 · 05-03-2007, 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria

Oh, yeah... God is not interested in people's intelligence up there in the head *pointin' the head* but, inside the heart, God is very much interested.

Amen!

Boult · 05-04-2007, 01:30 AM

See my post here...

Bible contradictions: a philosopher and a historian <-- regarding "Banned from the Bible"

Those 27 books in Holy Bible have been chosen by Bishops from various countries that such voting occurred in Niecea, Bithynia in a country which is now Iznik, Turkey which this such "First Council" has been initiated by Roman Emperor Constantine. See this: First Council of Nicaea - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia(<-in this link, go to bottom of the page and check out the link "The Council of Nicaea and the Bible")

Quote:

The Council of Nicaea was historically significant because it was the first effort to attain consensus in the church through an assembly representing all of Christendom.[2] "It was the first occasion for the development of technical Christology."[2] Further, "Constantine in convoking and presiding over the council signaled a measure of imperial control over the church."[2] With the creation of the Nicene Creed, a precedent was established for subsequent general councils to create a statement of belief and canons which were intended to become guidelines for doctrinal orthodoxy and a source of unity for the whole of Christendom — a momentous event in the history of the Church and subsequent history of Europe.

Very important quote^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

There were 300 Bishops deciding which books to go into Holy Bible!

Quote:

Approximately 300 bishops attended, from every region of the Empire except Britain.

Few days ago I watched a documentary about William Tyndale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia called "Battle for The Bible"( SECRETS OF THE DEAD . Battle for the Bible | PBS ) on "Secrets of the Dead" show on PBS He was inspired by Martin Luther( Martin Luther - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ) for his translating from Greek to German and William knows several languages so he's gifted linguist. he translated the bible into King James Version which included "vulgar language" (ie: everyday language or street language) But he didn't get to live his full life but caught and burned at the stake!

example of common language from Luther Bible (German Bible translated from Greek Bible);
Luther Bible - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Look at the chart: english literal translation and english meaning.

you see that "Holy Bible" was put together a 27 books approved by 300 Bishops but that Bible was in Greek! then someone try to translate bible into readable english bible for use in England.

Think about it. Do you really want to believe in the Holy Book that was put together by 300+ Bishops from various countries except Britain?

**Foxrac** · 05-04-2007, 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cane Corso

There was never a god. Yes, that will make me an atheist. No wonder why Christians refused to teach or take a class on evolution. I do not care much about the Old and New Testaments, they are just a story.

Hell Yea!!! I agree with you, also I believe in evolution.

05-03-2007, 07:02 AM	#1 (permalink)
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05-03-2007, 07:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
Liebling:-))) Sussi 7.7.86 - 18.6.09 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 31,038	Why Did God Change His Mind? Old Testament versus New Testament Why Did God Change His Mind? Old Testament versus New Testament. ATHEIST: It says in Deuteronomy that nonbelievers and fags should be killed. CHRISTIAN: Jesus invalidated the Old Testament. ATHEIST: Why do you still use it if it's obsolete? CHRISTIAN: Well, it has historical importance. ATHEIST: Well, it _influenced_ history...but that doesn't mean what happened in it is true, does it? CHRISTIAN: It's true. ATHEIST: Evidence? CHRISTIAN: The Bible. Faith. The flood thing. ATHEIST: Um, that isn't evidence. None of that is evidence. The Bible is assertions, religious faith is a substitute for evidence and the alleged evidence of the flood thing has been refuted repeatedly. CHRISTIAN: Well, as a Christian I follow Christ's teachings anyway. ATHEIST: Didn't Christ say in Matthew 5 that he didn't intend to devalue the laws of the prophets? CHRISTIAN: Yes, "until it is finished". When he died, his last words were "it is finished". ATHEIST: Well...Matthew 27 says: And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, "Eli, eli, lama sabachthani?" that is to say, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" ...Jesus, when he cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost." And Luke 23:46 says: And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, "Father, unto thy hands I commend my spirit:" and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. And John 19:30 says: When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, "It is finished:" and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost. CHRISTIAN: Well, they were standing at different distances from the cross so they heard different things. ATHEIST: Maybe, but damn--Christ sure seems to have some mixed sentiments there. Anyway, let's assume that God did want the laws changed from the Old Testament. CHRISTIAN: Thank you. ATHEIST: Very welcome. It's not like you have a chance without a handicap anyway. My question to you is: why did God change His mind? CHRISTIAN: Because the world changed. ATHEIST: So God's nature is influenced by the world? CHRISTIAN: Um, um...sure. Yes, I mean no, I mean yes. ATHEIST: So how has His nature changed since the New Testament? CHRISTIAN: It hasn't. ATHEIST: Why not? CHRISTIAN: Because the world hasn't changed in the past two millenia. ATHEIST: Okaaay. Well, isn't the God of the Old Testament a hypocrite anyway--with the genocide and the not killing people and all that? CHRISTIAN: God's a nice guy now. He just burns people forever anyway because that's what you do when someone you love disagrees with you. Why Did God Change His Mind? Old Testament versus New Testament. - Atheism vs Christianity \| Google Groups __________________

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Cheri Prayers for my dad. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 22,819	Eh? God did not change his mind about anything, in fact in the Old Testament, Ever since the fall in the Garden of Eden, humankind has been less than it was created to be. We are under a curse in result of death and need of a Savior to save us, In the Old Testament God talked about his promise, about a Messiah. You have an Old Testament of people who disobey God from the begin he created Adam and Eve, to the end before Jesus arrives to earth. God showed patience Then You have new Testament where The birth, life and death of the Lord Jesus changed everything, Jesus was crucified for our sins, the Savior to save us. The day when Jesus will return, as the Lord, In judgment, he will condemn all the nations of the world for their sin. God’s holy nature does not change. He is the same God in the Old Testament as He is in the New Testament, the only thing is different is we are allow to repent our sins, before we weren't allow to, because there was no blood of a sinless person to clean our sins. __________________ Avoid being a victim of a stroke, a stroke can happen to anyone at anytime. You will never know how devastating this could be until you had live through it. It affects everybody. So Support Stroke Awareness to find a cure and hope.

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Throwstones Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 548	I personally believe that Old Testament and New Testament are shown the fulfillment of prophecy of Messiah Jesus which is required a match the bible we all believe in. Also, God is true GOD and author of the Bible. Show you the comparison of Old and New Testament: "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring?" Psalms 22:1 (Old Testament) "And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli Eli, lama sabachthani? That is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Matthew27:46 (New Testament) You see that Old and New Testament are true messages of prophecies. Now if no one believes in New Testament or Old Testament; therefore there is no good as it considers to be VOID! Old Testament is revealing future prophecy of Jesus' coming and Revelation. New Testament is revealing the past prophecy and future prophecy of Revelation. __________________ Sen. Hillary Clinton for President 2008!

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DreamSlayer Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Ontario Posts: 129	Hebrews 10:1The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship. Matthew 5:17"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. There are a few questions that need to be answered, so I will be back later. However, Jesus didn't 'erase' the Law. Christians believe he fulfilled it, meaning that, Humans break the Law, and need to pay the consequence. Jesus paid that consequence for us, but the Law is still relevant.

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Hwy99 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: A town in middle of the rolling hills Posts: 6,141	Old testament was used by Islamic, Muslim, and Judaism, and those religions rejected New Testament and don't believe that Jesus was a saviour. New Testament was used by Christianity and its root, also still use the old testament too. That's all I know about the difference about old and new.

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Tousi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 15,733	Dunno why Leibling started this thread because I thought she was happy as a Satanist.....

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Maria Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 10,309	Very funny, Tousi !!

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XBGMER Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,451	Let me tell you, there is no different thru between old and new testment. then why old and new testment story in bible talk specify about israel's land, egypt's land on and on.. nothing different from old and new testment. Old and New testmant had the same idenity itself.. Like elisha rise little child from dead and jesus rise lazarus from dead.. there is no different between.. Remember Jesus told leader jews, he wasnt come to destory old, all prophets. he proved them that old of prophets fuliflled and can't broken. __________________

05-03-2007, 05:17 PM	#14 (permalink)
Cane Corso Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 703	There was never a god. Yes, that will make me an atheist. No wonder why Christians refused to teach or take a class on evolution. I do not care much about the Old and New Testaments, they are just a story.

05-03-2007, 07:24 PM	#23 (permalink)
Maria Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 10,309	Would you care to start a new thread on Evolution vs Creationism, Xentar ?

05-03-2007, 08:53 PM	#25 (permalink)
Maria Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 10,309	Oh, yeah... God is not interested in people's intelligence up there in the head pointin' the head but, inside the heart, God is very much interested.

05-03-2007, 09:21 PM	#26 (permalink)
xentar Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 275	"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." This is all anyone really needs to know to figure out the mainstream religions...

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