250 Million Christians Will Be Persecuted in 2007 - Page 2

EagleCherokee63 · 01-14-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by XBGMER

I ain't surprise you always bring your flame here around.... anyway.. Am I ? Ahh interesting.... it entitle your opinion... I am not here to make no sense any post to all..

If I taught my kids about anti-christians.. it would make no sense to me as for me teach them hate christians...

My step childern are whites.. I don't have problem with them about their skins.. I admire them for who they are.. they just are kids, respects and smarts.. I am glad that kids get their educations and family valves what I teaching as unlike you..

I tell you, i dont care how much of hate in your heart to me.. I don't mind you hate me with your heart 's full of crap.. You asked somebody pity you but your heart of rotten..

don't bring your flame here around me in Cyberred's thread and ruin her thread.. let save her thread that people have chance to make posts here without lock up.. thanks..

let people stick on this topic..

If you die tomorrow? You know where you will going? Ready be yourself wake up! You will be biggest sorry someday! I don't interesting people or kids are smart. It very important is count Jesus Christ Saviour PERIOD..

EagleCherokee63 · 01-14-2007, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalista

Yeah he made no sense.

I am agreed with you!

XBGMER · 01-14-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleCherokee63

If you die tomorrow? You know where you will going? Ready be yourself wake up! You will be biggest sorry someday! I don't interesting people or kids are smart. It very important is count Jesus Christ Saviour PERIOD..

Honestly, I don't even know what you talk about as you dont even know what you talk about.. You judge me about die.. Your death-wish list that I die on tomorrow, don't you??

I tell you full truth, I ain't fear to face between the death and life which one i choice... I am ready to face the death.. because I knew I will reincarnate of human flesh again when I come back to the flesh baby come from the human parent..I aware about THE DEATH AND THE LIFE made me that way.. I am ready, not JOKE!

I notice more and more christians kill their husbands or wifes or members of church...christians will become cult follwers like muslim kill another mulims..

Dark-Half · 01-14-2007, 06:47 PM

I think you guys need to chill. Especially XBGM3R. You've made it painfully obvious about your stance, but you're kinda dragging a dead horse on dude. You're making this a personal crusade to well... preach how much you hate christians.

**Maria** · 01-14-2007, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark-Half

I think you guys need to chill. Especially XBGM3R. You've made it painfully obvious about your stance, but you're kinda dragging a dead horse on dude. You're making this a personal crusade to well... preach how much you hate christians.

Thank you.

To answer to your question in your previous post :

Matthew 16:25-26

" For whosoever would save his life shall lose it: and whosoever shall lose his life for my sake shall find it.
For what shall a man be profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and forfeit his life? or what shall a man give in exchange for his life? "

Think about it, Dark-Half. Which one you prefer ?

**Foxrac** · 01-14-2007, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

As for people who are agnostics - they are unbelievers, freethinkers and doubters. They are very much the same as Muslims and other foreigners such as Buddahists, Shams, and other false gods who don't believe in Jesus who is God.

Agnostic is means that person who nothing to believe on everything but Muslim and other religions that who believe in other person and different belief.

**Foxrac** · 01-14-2007, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

The question is : Are you goin' to kill Christians & Jews, if you are agnostic ?

What? That's looks stupid question to me but agnostic means nothing to believe on everything and freedom from religion, such as does not follow on belief.

XBGMER · 01-14-2007, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark-Half

I think you guys need to chill. Especially XBGM3R. You've made it painfully obvious about your stance, but you're kinda dragging a dead horse on dude. You're making this a personal crusade to well... preach how much you hate christians.

Ah well.. why you worry and concern about me being hate christians.. Whatever you think I preach christians with my hatred words.. I don't have to say "APOLOGIZE" to christians what the hatred comments I made for whole rest of lifetime..

Most christians got angry with me about my post comments.. they need to go and pick the apply and fill the apply out for angry managements class you attend..

I know you hate somebody that you can't deny the facts, Then don't put your fingerpoint at me being hating christians..

BTW: In previously I was used to be christian and I judged others about their sinners what the comments I was against.. because I did not read bible at all.. I kept to judge others who sin what I make comments against as like you and even christians judge against others and against (other) christians what the way i can see .. it is so harsh words.. till I read the scripture very deep through the words of wisdom.. the scripture of the word changed my mind of this entire life.

One of mine friend who is christian, is still do on drugs. that how person preach others that is okay for christian who use on drugs and etcs.. person ruined the being reputational christian in public.. Pastor put others down and even put me down whatever pastor wanted.. They made me stopped being christian as like you christians still do judge and critize against others. that why you christians made me turne against you all christians with my very hatred words.. therefore you can't change my heart or mind period..

I wont to make the comments in this thread for events.. Good luck with this thread..

Stay enjoy in forums..

deafdyke · 01-14-2007, 08:07 PM

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They seem to regard it as their religious duty to force Christians and non-Muslims to convert to Islam.

and yet Christians don't see anything wrong with brainwashing people to convert to Christianity?

**deafskeptic** · 01-14-2007, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

and yet Christians don't see anything wrong with brainwashing people to convert to Christianity?

LOL. That's a very good answer!

guido · 01-14-2007, 08:43 PM

LOL at this thread.

Oh, the poor persecuted Christian majority.

It's this kind of bullshit that makes me feel like tearing up a Bible.

**Reba** · 01-14-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

and yet Christians don't see anything wrong with brainwashing people to convert to Christianity?

The key word in that quote was "force". No one can be forced to accept Jesus Christ as Savior. Also, no one can be brainwashed to accept Jesus Christ as Savior. A sinner must surrender voluntarily to Jesus Christ.

There are some churches and denominations that call themselves "Christian", and they might use coercive techniques to convert people to their groups. That is WRONG! True acceptance of Jesus Christ as Savior is a one-on-one experience. It has nothing to do with joining a church or religion.

EagleCherokee63 · 01-14-2007, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

The key word in that quote was "force". No one can be forced to accept Jesus Christ as Savior. Also, no one can be brainwashed to accept Jesus Christ as Savior. A sinner must surrender voluntarily to Jesus Christ.

There are some churches and denominations that call themselves "Christian", and they might use coercive techniques to convert people to their groups. That is WRONG! True acceptance of Jesus Christ as Savior is a one-on-one experience. It has nothing to do with joining a church or religion.

Amen! Jesus give your choose You want serve devil or Jesus Christ?

Matthew 6:24

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

EagleCherokee63 · 01-14-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by guido

LOL at this thread.

Oh, the poor persecuted Christian majority.

It's this kind of bullshit that makes me feel like tearing up a Bible.

You are against God!! It not BULLSHIT!! It not very very NICE of you!

**Reba** · 01-14-2007, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by XBGMER

...One of mine friend who is christian, is still do on drugs. that how person preach others that is okay for christian who use on drugs and etcs.. person ruined the being reputational christian in public.. Pastor put others down and even put me down whatever pastor wanted.. They made me stopped being christian as like you christians still do judge and critize against others. that why you christians made me turne against you all christians with my very hatred words.. therefore you can't change my heart or mind period....

I agree that "Christians" who live a bad testimony probably do more damage to the cause of Christ than the Devil himself.
Your friend is very wrong to say that it's OK for a Christian to abuse drugs. It is NOT OK. He is wrong to abuse drugs, and he is even more wrong to lead other people astray by saying that it's OK.

If you don't want to be a Christian that's your choice. I just want you to understand one point. No one can be forced to accept Christ--but also, no one can be forced to reject Christ. Whether you accept Christ or reject Christ, that is your decision. No one forced that decision on you.

If you had really been a Christian before, you would still be one now. Remember:

Romans 8
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Jesus said:

John 10
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Your friend and pastor were wrong influences; I'm not excusing them. But you are still responsible for your own decisions.

Nesmuth · 01-14-2007, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleCherokee63

You are against God!! It not BULLSHIT!! It not very very NICE of you!

I'm a secular and others are seculars too.

Try my lovely thread.

Nesmuth's "Baby J"

Have a sweet week!

Richard

EagleCherokee63 · 01-14-2007, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I agree that "Christians" who live a bad testimony probably do more damage to the cause of Christ than the Devil himself.
Your friend is very wrong to say that it's OK for a Christian to abuse drugs. It is NOT OK. He is wrong to abuse drugs, and he is even more wrong to lead other people astray by saying that it's OK.

If you don't want to be a Christian that's your choice. I just want you to understand one point. No one can be forced to accept Christ--but also, no one can be forced to reject Christ. Whether you accept Christ or reject Christ, that is your decision. No one forced that decision on you.

If you had really been a Christian before, you would still be one now. Remember:

Romans 8
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Jesus said:

John 10
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: 28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. 29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

Your friend and pastor were wrong influences; I'm not excusing them. But you are still responsible for your own decisions.

That is a fact!!! My former husband said that before!! I did not agreed with my former husband since he was on drugs. I talked with my former pastor about it. My former pastor told me it is a very common story what you shared it in here.

guido · 01-15-2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by EagleCherokee63

You are against God!! It not BULLSHIT!! It not very very NICE of you!

If that's the case, then HAIL SATAN!

EagleCherokee63 · 01-15-2007, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by guido

If that's the case, then HAIL SATAN!

KJV Bible said here,

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.

Proverbs 10:14 Wise [men] lay up knowledge: but the mouth of the foolish [is] near destruction.

guido · 01-15-2007, 01:05 AM

You know my favorite bible verse? The one thay says "blah blah blah."

EagleCherokee63 · 01-15-2007, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by guido

You know my favorite bible verse? The one thay says "blah blah blah."

God will take care with you! Pray for you! Jesus Christ died on the cross for your sin. Keep avoid big time Judgment Day!

**Maria** · 01-15-2007, 03:29 AM

Guido,

Be nice and stick to this topic. If, you don't have anythin' to say - please, do not post here.

**Reba** · 01-15-2007, 05:27 PM

An example of Muslim attitude towards Christians:

Will Saudis Ban the Letter ‘X'?

BY YOUSSEF IBRAHIM
January 15, 2007
URL: Will Saudis Ban the Letter ‘X'? - January 15, 2007 - The New York Sun

The letter "X" soon may be banned in Saudi Arabia because it resembles the mother of all banned religious symbols in the oil kingdom: the cross.

The new development came with the issuing of another mind-bending fatwa, or religious edict, by the infamous Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice — the group of senior Islamic clergy that reigns supreme on all legal, civil, and governance matters in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

The commission's damning of the letter "X" came in response to a Ministry of Trade query about whether it should grant trademark protection to a Saudi businessman for a new service carrying the English name "Explorer."

"No! Nein! Nyet!" was the commission's categorical answer.

Why?

Well, never mind that none of the so-called scholars manning the upper ranks of the religious outfit can speak or read a word of English. But their experts who examined the English word "explorer" were struck by how suspicious that "X" appeared. In a kingdom where Friday preachers routinely refer to Christians as pigs and infidel crusaders, even a twisted cross ranks as an abomination.

So after waiting a year, the Saudi businessman, Amru Mohammad Faisal, got his answer: No. But, like so many other Saudi businessmen who suffer from the travesties of the commission, he seemed more baffled than angry. He wrote letters to Saudi newspapers to criticize the cockamamie logic. An article he wrote appeared with his photograph on some Arabian Web sites. It sarcastically invited the commission to expand its edict to the "plus" sign in mathematics and accounting, in order "to prevent filthy Christian conspiracies from infiltrating our thoughts, our beliefs, and our feelings."

**Maria** · 01-15-2007, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

An example of Muslim attitude towards Christians:

Will Saudis Ban the Letter ‘X'?

BY YOUSSEF IBRAHIM
January 15, 2007
URL: Will Saudis Ban the Letter ‘X'? - January 15, 2007 - The New York Sun

The letter "X" soon may be banned in Saudi Arabia because it resembles the mother of all banned religious symbols in the oil kingdom: the cross.

The new development came with the issuing of another mind-bending fatwa, or religious edict, by the infamous Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice — the group of senior Islamic clergy that reigns supreme on all legal, civil, and governance matters in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

The commission's damning of the letter "X" came in response to a Ministry of Trade query about whether it should grant trademark protection to a Saudi businessman for a new service carrying the English name "Explorer."

"No! Nein! Nyet!" was the commission's categorical answer.

Why?

Well, never mind that none of the so-called scholars manning the upper ranks of the religious outfit can speak or read a word of English. But their experts who examined the English word "explorer" were struck by how suspicious that "X" appeared. In a kingdom where Friday preachers routinely refer to Christians as pigs and infidel crusaders, even a twisted cross ranks as an abomination.

So after waiting a year, the Saudi businessman, Amru Mohammad Faisal, got his answer: No. But, like so many other Saudi businessmen who suffer from the travesties of the commission, he seemed more baffled than angry. He wrote letters to Saudi newspapers to criticize the cockamamie logic. An article he wrote appeared with his photograph on some Arabian Web sites. It sarcastically invited the commission to expand its edict to the "plus" sign in mathematics and accounting, in order "to prevent filthy Christian conspiracies from infiltrating our thoughts, our beliefs, and our feelings."

Care to explain what " cockamamie logic " means ? I am tryin' to understand what it means.

**Reba** · 01-15-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberRed

Care to explain what " cockamamie logic " means ? I am tryin' to understand what it means.

It means a totally foolish way of thinking; nonsense, ridiculous.

**Maria** · 01-15-2007, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

It means a totally foolish way of thinking; nonsense, ridiculous.

Got it and thanks.

**shel90** · 01-15-2007, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

and yet Christians don't see anything wrong with brainwashing people to convert to Christianity?

Good one!

**Maria** · 01-15-2007, 09:16 PM

I believe that when they persecuted Christians like this, the Christians are provin' them that God is the Truth - because, of persecution and, that Jesus said it was because, of Him. His Name.

In fact, it wasn't Allah's name to prove anythin', because they KILL the Christians.

**shel90** · 01-15-2007, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by EagleCherokee63

Amen! Jesus give your choose You want serve devil or Jesus Christ?

Matthew 6:24

No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

It seems that in your mind that whoever doesnt believe in Jesus must believe in the devil. What if it is just neither?

**Maria** · 01-15-2007, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by deafdyke

and yet Christians don't see anything wrong with brainwashing people to convert to Christianity?

Let's see what Jesus says :

Mark 16:15

" And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to the whole creation. "

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Dark-Half Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Idaho. Posts: 852	I think you guys need to chill. Especially XBGM3R. You've made it painfully obvious about your stance, but you're kinda dragging a dead horse on dude. You're making this a personal crusade to well... preach how much you hate christians. __________________ The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.

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01-14-2007, 08:43 PM	#41 (permalink)
guido Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,119	LOL at this thread. Oh, the poor persecuted Christian majority. It's this kind of bullshit that makes me feel like tearing up a Bible.

01-15-2007, 01:05 AM	#50 (permalink)
guido Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,119	You know my favorite bible verse? The one thay says "blah blah blah."

01-15-2007, 03:29 AM	#52 (permalink)
Maria Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 10,309	Guido, Be nice and stick to this topic. If, you don't have anythin' to say - please, do not post here.

01-15-2007, 05:27 PM	#53 (permalink)
Reba Granny Terp Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: South Carolina Posts: 39,161	An example of Muslim attitude towards Christians: Will Saudis Ban the Letter ‘X'? BY YOUSSEF IBRAHIM January 15, 2007 URL: Will Saudis Ban the Letter ‘X'? - January 15, 2007 - The New York Sun The letter "X" soon may be banned in Saudi Arabia because it resembles the mother of all banned religious symbols in the oil kingdom: the cross. The new development came with the issuing of another mind-bending fatwa, or religious edict, by the infamous Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice — the group of senior Islamic clergy that reigns supreme on all legal, civil, and governance matters in the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. The commission's damning of the letter "X" came in response to a Ministry of Trade query about whether it should grant trademark protection to a Saudi businessman for a new service carrying the English name "Explorer." "No! Nein! Nyet!" was the commission's categorical answer. Why? Well, never mind that none of the so-called scholars manning the upper ranks of the religious outfit can speak or read a word of English. But their experts who examined the English word "explorer" were struck by how suspicious that "X" appeared. In a kingdom where Friday preachers routinely refer to Christians as pigs and infidel crusaders, even a twisted cross ranks as an abomination. So after waiting a year, the Saudi businessman, Amru Mohammad Faisal, got his answer: No. But, like so many other Saudi businessmen who suffer from the travesties of the commission, he seemed more baffled than angry. He wrote letters to Saudi newspapers to criticize the cockamamie logic. An article he wrote appeared with his photograph on some Arabian Web sites. It sarcastically invited the commission to expand its edict to the "plus" sign in mathematics and accounting, in order "to prevent filthy Christian conspiracies from infiltrating our thoughts, our beliefs, and our feelings."

01-15-2007, 09:16 PM	#58 (permalink)
Maria Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 10,309	I believe that when they persecuted Christians like this, the Christians are provin' them that God is the Truth - because, of persecution and, that Jesus said it was because, of Him. His Name. In fact, it wasn't Allah's name to prove anythin', because they KILL the Christians.