Do you consider Animal or human Sacrifice as......

**Liebling:-)))** · 04-20-2006, 12:48 PM

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Animal and Human sacrifice

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**Liebling:-)))** · 04-20-2006, 12:51 PM

Jaya sacrifices animal ban at election altar

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Chennai, Feb. 20: The Jayalalithaa regime has revoked the ban on animal sacrifices in temples in yet another pre-poll gesture before the model code of conduct kicks in.

On the chief minister’s advice, governor P.S. Ramamohan Rao today promulgated the Tamil Nadu Animals and Birds Sacrifices Prohibition (Repeal) Ordinance, 2004, that will annul a 1950 act banning animal sacrifices in temples.

The ordinance that comes into immediate effect seeks to “respect and protect” the ancient religious beliefs and practices of the people, said an official statement released here this afternoon. This should bring some cheer to the rural populace that had resented the ban.

Though the act — brought in by the then Congress government — has been around for long, its provisions were strictly enforced only from August last year following a government directive to police to prevent “crude” sacrifices. Jayalalithaa had justified the move on the grounds of hygiene and prevention of cruelty to animals.

It sparked a wave of defiance as people in several districts openly sacrificed animals to appease their “presiding deities” while the helpless police looked on.

The Opposition, too, had denounced the move, saying it interfered with the religious freedom of the most backward sections and, in particular, the Dalits, and affected the livelihood of those economically dependent on the practice.

But leading animal activists, including former Union minister Maneka Gandhi, had applauded the chief minister’s courage and determination.

Even the Kanchi Sankaracharya was against animal sacrifices, prompting Opposition leaders to accuse Jayalalithaa of trying to “sanskritise” the traditional rituals of the backwards and thus “undermining” Tamil cultural practices.

The state BJP, which in principle is against animal sacrifices, too, had felt that age-old practices should not be interfered with.

From ancient times, “grama devatas (folk deities)” in the state’s predominantly rural society have been appeased with animal sacrifices, as an act of “nethi kadan (thanksgiving)”.

Faced with a deluge of complaints that the ban was curbing religious customs, Jayalalithaa said the people had also expressed the fear of deities’ “curse visiting their families” as a consequence.

To ensure a remedial measure “for all times to come”, the chief minister said she recommended the ordinance repealing the act completely.

The Jayalalithaa regime has thus retracted several of its controversial decisions, if only to appease the electorate and blunt the Opposition attack in the run-up to the general elections.

Ten days ago, the government had reinstated nearly a thousand state employees who had struck work in July last year, and also abolished agricultural income-tax for plantation crops and slashed stamp duty.

Brickbats for bouquets

Jayalalithaa late last night urged her party cadre not to throw bouquets and garlands at her while campaigning, after she claimed to have suffered minor injuries in one such shower of affection, reports PTI.

A statement released late last night said the incident occurred while the chief minister was leaving a function in Chennai. It further said that in view of police warning that the LTTE might make an attempt on her life, the rebels might impersonate party workers and plant a bomb in a bouquet.

Jayalalithaa also urged the cadre to desist from putting up her cut-outs and, instead, donate the money spent on the extravagance to the party fund.

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**Liebling:-)))** · 04-20-2006, 12:52 PM

Yes I consider it as cruelty.

What about you?

**Liebling:-)))** · 04-20-2006, 03:08 PM

I notice that I have views and vote 3... Why can´t anyone post their opinion here?

I won´t bite you when you have different opinion as me...

netrox · 04-20-2006, 06:33 PM

I consider animal sacrifices morally degrading and vile.

Heath · 04-20-2006, 06:50 PM

Really, in Ancient times this practice of animal sacrifice was commonplace but not as common as human sarcifice was.

I am not much for animal sacrifice for religious purposes beyond when I was a kid and swung the cat's tail and splattered the cat's brains all over the cement or shot small animals with a bb gun in a very cruel way, not for hunting purposes to get some meat to eat at the dinner table or getting a needle from my mom's sewing basket and put on my hearing aid then put the needle pin in the cat to hear the cat scream.

Every boy at one time or another has at least done something cruel to animals.

I know that in Israel you will see animals being sacrificed according to the Torah and I also know that if you went to Palestine that you will see muslims doing the same thing with Halal meat and pronouncing the name of Allah.

As for human sacrifices, that is mainly done by native tribes in South America, Africa and other third world countries.

The only time I would eat a human which is called cannablism would probably have to be something like from :

http://video.barnesandnoble.com/sear...=y&frm=0&itm=3

I don't think we need to do animal sacrifices beyond saying the Lord's Prayer at suppertime to give Thanks to the Good Almighty Lord and God who provides the food and drink needed to stay healthy. If you are going to get an animal for food then make it swift , clean and do not hurt the animal anymore than is needed. Preferably one shot should stop a deer then take the deer home and cut up, label the deer meat then put in freezer to cook for later at suppertime and say Thank you to the Lord for providing the deer meat.

**Reba** · 04-20-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

I notice that I have views and vote 3... Why can´t anyone post their opinion here?

I won´t bite you when you have different opinion as me...

I can't vote because the way you worded the choices. You combined animal AND human sacrifice together, and you didn't specify the method of animal sacrifice, and you didn't specify if you mean currently practiced or historically practiced, etc. That is, none of your choices applied.

IMO there is no need for human OR animal sacrifice now. God required specific animal sacrifice until Jesus was the final sacrifice. So I say no sacrifice, human or animal, is necessary now. Animal sacrifice, done following the rules that God established, was necessary until Jesus was sacrificed. All other sacrifice--no.

Rose Immortal · 04-20-2006, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Heath

I am not much for animal sacrifice for religious purposes beyond when I was a kid and swung the cat's tail and splattered the cat's brains all over the cement or shot small animals with a bb gun in a very cruel way, not for hunting purposes to get some meat to eat at the dinner table or getting a needle from my mom's sewing basket and put on my hearing aid then put the needle pin in the cat to hear the cat scream.

Every boy at one time or another has at least done something cruel to animals.

Nice try--every boy has NOT done something cruel to animals. Some have, but others have not. Nor does it justify your behavior; you had no right to do those things. It doesn't matter if you were a child. If you were big enough to do the things you describe in such a deliberate, cold manner, YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE--and frankly, I do not even wish to speak to you anymore on ANY topic.

netrox · 04-20-2006, 11:06 PM

When I was a kid... and I tell you.. a KID... I was cruel to pets *unintentionally* a few times. I was not aware of how much pain I inflicted on them. Now, just the thought of what I did to them makes me feel sick. I really feel remorseful for what I did. Even when I was just a "kid", to this day, I still feel pangs of guilt.

And that is why I find animal abuse detestable and should not be tolerated at all. It's morally and ethically degrading.

Rose Immortal · 04-20-2006, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by netrox

When I was a kid... and I tell you.. a KID... I was cruel to pets *unintentionally* a few times. I was not aware of how much pain I inflicted on them. Now, just the thought of what I did to them makes me feel sick. I really feel remorseful for what I did. Even when I was just a "kid", to this day, I still feel pangs of guilt.

I can't blame you for feeling that. Even old things like that stick around in the mind.

While it's not animal abuse, would you believe that I still feel guilty for cheating on part of a state test at age 5 or 6? Even though I was very, very little, I had been told that cheating was wrong, and I believe I had the capacity to choose not to do it. Now, as it has turned out over the years, I have performed well many, many, many times on exams without ever having had to cheat. Yet I still feel bad about that one from when I was so little.

JeepGirl · 04-20-2006, 11:44 PM

voted as cruelty

I am an animal lover. I don't see how I could do that to animals nor humans. If I have a pet that died, I'd bury it right away. Not go sacrificing the animals.

**Reba** · 04-21-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Heath

I am not much for animal sacrifice for religious purposes beyond when I was a kid and swung the cat's tail and splattered the cat's brains all over the cement or shot small animals with a bb gun in a very cruel way, not for hunting purposes to get some meat to eat at the dinner table or getting a needle from my mom's sewing basket and put on my hearing aid then put the needle pin in the cat to hear the cat scream.

Every boy at one time or another has at least done something cruel to animals. ..

No, it is NOT normal for children to intentionally abuse animals.

Heath, I hope you now realize how wrong it was for you to torture those animals. I didn't read that in your post. Do you know understand that what you did was very bad? Have you repented of that sin? If you are sorry about what you did, you really shouldn't post those examples in a way that sounds like bragging or pleasure. Please think about that.

Opal · 04-21-2006, 09:44 AM

Doctors/Psych/researchers tried to pinpointed why and how the so-called infamous murderers such as Jeff Dahmner, Ted Bundy, David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz, Albert "Boston Strangler" DeSalvo, they'd started it from their childhood to become cruel to their animals before they hurting people!!

http://www.dubelu.com/articles/Scien...iley-Lloyd.php

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer...kidsandcruelty

Parents should focus on their children and show kindness to animals, as they are their first teacher to observed their children's feelings/understand and emotion, as its known as the "Triad of warning signs in childhood".

Opal · 04-21-2006, 09:48 AM

Is it only happen before Jesus' time (O.T) to animal sacrifice for religious purposes?

**Angel** · 04-21-2006, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Heath

Really, in Ancient times this practice of animal sacrifice was commonplace but not as common as human sarcifice was.

I am not much for animal sacrifice for religious purposes beyond when I was a kid and swung the cat's tail and splattered the cat's brains all over the cement or shot small animals with a bb gun in a very cruel way, not for hunting purposes to get some meat to eat at the dinner table or getting a needle from my mom's sewing basket and put on my hearing aid then put the needle pin in the cat to hear the cat scream.

Every boy at one time or another has at least done something cruel to animals.

My three boys could NEVER do something like you did to this poor cat, I don't care how little you were, a child should know better than that, and beside your post makes me sick to the point that I can not read it anymore, please do think before you make a comment like this, this is the most cruel act you have done to a cat....

**Cheri** · 04-21-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Heath

I am not much for animal sacrifice for religious purposes beyond when I was a kid and swung the cat's tail and splattered the cat's brains all over the cement or shot small animals with a bb gun in a very cruel way, not for hunting purposes to get some meat to eat at the dinner table or getting a needle from my mom's sewing basket and put on my hearing aid then put the needle pin in the cat to hear the cat scream.

You had some serious pyschological problems when you were a kid. Your story sounds horrible the same time very sad, I never read something this violence from a member of AD before.

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Every boy at one time or another has at least done something cruel to animals.

Now that is not true at all, There are children out there who have very good parents, who would educational them. Not all abuse and neglect children would go their way and do cruelly to animals.

**TweetyBird** · 04-21-2006, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Heath

Really, in Ancient times this practice of animal sacrifice was commonplace but not as common as human sarcifice was.

I am not much for animal sacrifice for religious purposes beyond when I was a kid and swung the cat's tail and splattered the cat's brains all over the cement or shot small animals with a bb gun in a very cruel way, not for hunting purposes to get some meat to eat at the dinner table or getting a needle from my mom's sewing basket and put on my hearing aid then put the needle pin in the cat to hear the cat scream.

Every boy at one time or another has at least done something cruel to animals.

I know that in Israel you will see animals being sacrificed according to the Torah and I also know that if you went to Palestine that you will see muslims doing the same thing with Halal meat and pronouncing the name of Allah.

As for human sacrifices, that is mainly done by native tribes in South America, Africa and other third world countries.

The only time I would eat a human which is called cannablism would probably have to be something like from :

http://video.barnesandnoble.com/sear...=y&frm=0&itm=3

I don't think we need to do animal sacrifices beyond saying the Lord's Prayer at suppertime to give Thanks to the Good Almighty Lord and God who provides the food and drink needed to stay healthy. If you are going to get an animal for food then make it swift , clean and do not hurt the animal anymore than is needed. Preferably one shot should stop a deer then take the deer home and cut up, label the deer meat then put in freezer to cook for later at suppertime and say Thank you to the Lord for providing the deer meat.

*GASP* that sooo AWFUL! gee! u dont have a soft heart.. sowwy to say that

Roadrunner · 04-21-2006, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Rose Immortal

Nice try--every boy has NOT done something cruel to animals. Some have, but others have not. Nor does it justify your behavior; you had no right to do those things. It doesn't matter if you were a child. If you were big enough to do the things you describe in such a deliberate, cold manner, YOU ARE ACCOUNTABLE--and frankly, I do not even wish to speak to you anymore on ANY topic.

This pretty much sums up with what the majority would think and feel about the way you Heath carried out cruel, meaningless acts against animals when you were younger.

When I was a boy, growing up, I NEVER, EVER carried out cruel acts against any animal whatsoever. I was taught to be kind, caring and gentle around animals/pets....

Also, to describe this in the matter you (Heath) did here and it's really deplorable and sounds more of bragging or showing how 'tough' you were, but in all sense, it's really sickening to know or read about.

It's been said that some of these certain types of 'kids' who manipulate animals for pleasure or whatnots will usually grow up carrying out these types of idiotic ways on bigger things like human beings.

I could say more...but I'll leave it at that...but if you continue to post such vile acts about what you've done to animals in the past, I'll simply remove them for I believe nobody would want to read such things here in AD.

IslandGal · 04-21-2006, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Heath

I am not much for animal sacrifice for religious purposes beyond when I was a kid and swung the cat's tail and splattered the cat's brains all over the cement or shot small animals with a bb gun in a very cruel way, not for hunting purposes to get some meat to eat at the dinner table or getting a needle from my mom's sewing basket and put on my hearing aid then put the needle pin in the cat to hear the cat scream.

Every boy at one time or another has at least done something cruel to animals.

*shudders*

That was really horrible of you to do that to the cat. It is not true that every boy would do the same as what you did. I have 4 nephews and none of them have been cruel to their pet dog and birds.

IslandGal · 04-21-2006, 10:51 AM

And by the way, Liebling, I voted cruelty.

JeepGirl · 04-21-2006, 11:53 AM

My ex husband told me once when he was a kid... he went "cat" fishing. he got a fishing pole and put food on the hook.. he swung the pole and there was a cat coming toward the hook and the cat ate some.. My ex husband jerked the pole and the hook got hooked into the cat's mouth..the cat went wild and kept flipping, running back and forth while ex hubby was reeling in. as soon as the cat came closer.. he held on to him and took the hook out of its mouth and buried the cat alive.

Was that horrible!? I didn't like it when he told me that. I was really pissed at him and told him that turned me off. He kept telling me he was young and he didn't like cats. He certainly wasn't an animal lover it was hard for me to have animals around him.

Heath · 04-21-2006, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

No, it is NOT normal for children to intentionally abuse animals.

Heath, I hope you now realize how wrong it was for you to torture those animals. I didn't read that in your post. Do you know understand that what you did was very bad? Have you repented of that sin? If you are sorry about what you did, you really shouldn't post those examples in a way that sounds like bragging or pleasure. Please think about that.

Hi Reba,

I was not bragging or doing it for pleasure.

I made some mistakes as a kid and would not do them again as an adult.

I guess people got the wrong idea because I was just telling it like it is from when I was a kid.

I know many guys who did that too when they were a kid. Most boys have had swung a cat at one time or another and I always find it hard to believe when a guy says he never hurt a cat when he was a kid.

If he kept hurting animals well into adulthood then something is seriously wrong there because that is usually what boys do at that age and are curious then swing a cat around.

**Liebling:-)))** · 04-21-2006, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reba

I can't vote because the way you worded the choices. You combined animal AND human sacrifice together, and you didn't specify the method of animal sacrifice, and you didn't specify if you mean currently practiced or historically practiced, etc. That is, none of your choices applied.

IMO there is no need for human OR animal sacrifice now. God required specific animal sacrifice until Jesus was the final sacrifice. So I say no sacrifice, human or animal, is necessary now. Animal sacrifice, done following the rules that God established, was necessary until Jesus was sacrificed. All other sacrifice--no.

I consider animal and human equal that´s why I put "or" which mean is "either", not "AND".

It look like animal sacrifice is okay for you. You would of vote animal sacrifice as belief reasons or not cruelty if I did not add human on the poll. Correct?

**Cheri** · 04-21-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Heath

I know many guys who did that too when they were a kid. Most boys have had swung a cat at one time or another and I always find it hard to believe when a guy says he never hurt a cat when he was a kid.

Well believe it, Not every guy or child was like you, Heath.

**Liebling:-)))** · 04-21-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamara

Doctors/Psych/researchers tried to pinpointed why and how the so-called infamous murderers such as Jeff Dahmner, Ted Bundy, David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz, Albert "Boston Strangler" DeSalvo, they'd started it from their childhood to become cruel to their animals before they hurting people!!

http://www.dubelu.com/articles/Scien...iley-Lloyd.php

http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer...kidsandcruelty

Parents should focus on their children and show kindness to animals, as they are their first teacher to observed their children's feelings/understand and emotion, as its known as the "Triad of warning signs in childhood".

and thank you for links... I save this links.

Yes, it´s an exactly what I often said in my previous posts to focus children´s feeling and show positive things to children. That´s exactly why I beleive in psychology.

**Liebling:-)))** · 04-21-2006, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Heath

I am not much for animal sacrifice for religious purposes beyond when I was a kid and swung the cat's tail and splattered the cat's brains all over the cement or shot small animals with a bb gun in a very cruel way, not for hunting purposes to get some meat to eat at the dinner table or getting a needle from my mom's sewing basket and put on my hearing aid then put the needle pin in the cat to hear the cat scream.

*goose bump* I would be total mad if I see my boys do that like what you did... I feel bad for cat... Why you do that? Is it just because of curiously out of boring? Right? I thought you were well raised by strong christian parents?

That´s what you said
How To Raise A Thinking Child...

No wonder why I don´t follow what the bible says. I bet you would of be good boy if your parents don´t worship the bible and command you something what you don´t like...

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Every boy at one time or another has at least done something cruel to animals.

No true, not EVERY... My sons are animal lover and respect for not touch Kim´s 4 kitten... They treat our cats as our family. My boy lecture their friends to not touch kittens when they come to visit to see Kim´s 4 kitten... They love to watch animals on TV... they are very mad if someone cruel animals.

I already have 2 cats and will keep 2 of 4 kittens because we all are cat lover.

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I know that in Israel you will see animals being sacrificed according to the Torah and I also know that if you went to Palestine that you will see muslims doing the same thing with Halal meat and pronouncing the name of Allah.

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As for human sacrifices, that is mainly done by native tribes in South America, Africa and other third world countries.

Yes, that´s correct.

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I don't think we need to do animal sacrifices beyond saying the Lord's Prayer at suppertime to give Thanks to the Good Almighty Lord and God who provides the food and drink needed to stay healthy. If you are going to get an animal for food then make it swift , clean and do not hurt the animal anymore than is needed. Preferably one shot should stop a deer then take the deer home and cut up, label the deer meat then put in freezer to cook for later at suppertime and say Thank you to the Lord for providing the deer meat.

I see no problem if you hunt animalsl for FOODS, not animal sacrifices...

Heath · 04-21-2006, 02:37 PM

Hi Liebling,

My mom yelled at me and she was very mad at me when the neighbors found me doing that to the cat and I did get punished for that.

**Liebling:-)))** · 04-21-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Heath

Hi Reba,

I was not bragging or doing it for pleasure.

I made some mistakes as a kid and would not do them again as an adult.

I guess people got the wrong idea because I was just telling it like it is from when I was a kid.

I know many guys who did that too when they were a kid. Most boys have had swung a cat at one time or another and I always find it hard to believe when a guy says he never hurt a cat when he was a kid.

If he kept hurting animals well into adulthood then something is seriously wrong there because that is usually what boys do at that age and are curious then swing a cat around.

Yes I can understand that you as kids made mistakes like everyone but what you do with cat is too extreme. Perhaps it´s something do with your unhappy childhood due strict parents?

I´m sorry when you find it hard to beleive that not all boys do like this but it´s true. My sons are animal lover and NEVER do that to hurt animals. We visit to Zoo every year because my both sons want it.

**Liebling:-)))** · 04-21-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Heath

Hi Liebling,

My mom yelled at me and she was very mad at me when the neighbors found me doing that to the cat and I did get punished for that.

You got me curiously. What kind of punishment your mother made after learn that what you did with cat? I hope you don´t mind me to ask you question.

**Angel** · 04-21-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

Yes I can understand that you as kids made mistakes like everyone

Are you kidding me Liebling?, what he did to those animals was just a simple mistake?

I think I'm going to get sick

View Poll Results: Do you consider Animal or human sacrifice
as cruelty?	20	80.00%
as not cruelty?	1	4.00%
as normal accord belief?	1	4.00%
as other reasons?	3	12.00%
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Liebling:-))) Sussi 7.7.86 - 18.6.09 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 31,038	Yes I consider it as cruelty. What about you? __________________

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Liebling:-))) Sussi 7.7.86 - 18.6.09 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Germany Posts: 31,038	I notice that I have views and vote 3... Why can´t anyone post their opinion here? I won´t bite you when you have different opinion as me... __________________

04-20-2006, 11:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
JeepGirl Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In the South Posts: 6,364	voted as cruelty I am an animal lover. I don't see how I could do that to animals nor humans. If I have a pet that died, I'd bury it right away. Not go sacrificing the animals. __________________ ""When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us""

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04-20-2006, 06:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
netrox Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,780	I consider animal sacrifices morally degrading and vile.

04-20-2006, 06:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
Heath Banned Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8,088	Really, in Ancient times this practice of animal sacrifice was commonplace but not as common as human sarcifice was. I am not much for animal sacrifice for religious purposes beyond when I was a kid and swung the cat's tail and splattered the cat's brains all over the cement or shot small animals with a bb gun in a very cruel way, not for hunting purposes to get some meat to eat at the dinner table or getting a needle from my mom's sewing basket and put on my hearing aid then put the needle pin in the cat to hear the cat scream. Every boy at one time or another has at least done something cruel to animals. I know that in Israel you will see animals being sacrificed according to the Torah and I also know that if you went to Palestine that you will see muslims doing the same thing with Halal meat and pronouncing the name of Allah. As for human sacrifices, that is mainly done by native tribes in South America, Africa and other third world countries. The only time I would eat a human which is called cannablism would probably have to be something like from : http://video.barnesandnoble.com/sear...=y&frm=0&itm=3 I don't think we need to do animal sacrifices beyond saying the Lord's Prayer at suppertime to give Thanks to the Good Almighty Lord and God who provides the food and drink needed to stay healthy. If you are going to get an animal for food then make it swift , clean and do not hurt the animal anymore than is needed. Preferably one shot should stop a deer then take the deer home and cut up, label the deer meat then put in freezer to cook for later at suppertime and say Thank you to the Lord for providing the deer meat.

04-20-2006, 11:06 PM	#9 (permalink)
netrox Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,780	When I was a kid... and I tell you.. a KID... I was cruel to pets unintentionally a few times. I was not aware of how much pain I inflicted on them. Now, just the thought of what I did to them makes me feel sick. I really feel remorseful for what I did. Even when I was just a "kid", to this day, I still feel pangs of guilt. And that is why I find animal abuse detestable and should not be tolerated at all. It's morally and ethically degrading.

04-21-2006, 09:44 AM	#13 (permalink)
Opal Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,763 Blog Entries: 1	Doctors/Psych/researchers tried to pinpointed why and how the so-called infamous murderers such as Jeff Dahmner, Ted Bundy, David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz, Albert "Boston Strangler" DeSalvo, they'd started it from their childhood to become cruel to their animals before they hurting people!! http://www.dubelu.com/articles/Scien...iley-Lloyd.php http://www.aspca.org/site/PageServer...kidsandcruelty Parents should focus on their children and show kindness to animals, as they are their first teacher to observed their children's feelings/understand and emotion, as its known as the "Triad of warning signs in childhood".

04-21-2006, 09:48 AM	#14 (permalink)
Opal Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 3,763 Blog Entries: 1	Is it only happen before Jesus' time (O.T) to animal sacrifice for religious purposes?

04-21-2006, 10:51 AM	#20 (permalink)
IslandGal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 4,322	And by the way, Liebling, I voted cruelty.

04-21-2006, 11:53 AM	#21 (permalink)
JeepGirl Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: In the South Posts: 6,364	My ex husband told me once when he was a kid... he went "cat" fishing. he got a fishing pole and put food on the hook.. he swung the pole and there was a cat coming toward the hook and the cat ate some.. My ex husband jerked the pole and the hook got hooked into the cat's mouth..the cat went wild and kept flipping, running back and forth while ex hubby was reeling in. as soon as the cat came closer.. he held on to him and took the hook out of its mouth and buried the cat alive. Was that horrible!? I didn't like it when he told me that. I was really pissed at him and told him that turned me off. He kept telling me he was young and he didn't like cats. He certainly wasn't an animal lover it was hard for me to have animals around him. __________________ ""When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us""

04-21-2006, 02:37 PM	#27 (permalink)
Heath Banned Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8,088	Hi Liebling, My mom yelled at me and she was very mad at me when the neighbors found me doing that to the cat and I did get punished for that.

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