MilitaryGirl83

I am wondering what kind of Jewish are you? I am going to convert to Messianic Judaism and I am so happy I found that religion. I have so much faith.

Deafness

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Reba

What are you converting from?

Messianic Jews are usually Jews who have accepted Jesus as Messiah. Do you mean that you were already a Jew (Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, etc.), and then accepted Jesus?

I'm a little confused because people usually don't say, "I am going to convert".

MilitaryGirl83

No I am not jewish but I am going to convert to the Messianic Jew religion.. I am happy with it and the religion. The convert mean turn from one religion to another

Reba

What religion were you before?

I'm sorry, I'm still confused. I thought that Messianic Jews were people who were born Jews, and then accepted Jesus as Messiah (Savior). If you were a Gentile and accepted Jesus as Savior, then that would make you a Christian, not a Messianic Jew.

Gemtun

That is what I thought too. Ive dated a few Jewish men and have a few very close girlfriends who are Jewish. If they believe in Jesus, it means they accepted Jesus, becoming Messianic Jews.

I have not heard of a Christian converting into Messianic Jew-but rather Christians converting into Reform Jews. I almost converted to Judaism and took courses at University of Judaism in Los Angeles but did not complete the process.

Teresh

You're missing a number of movements in the poll, such as Reconstructionist and Liberal movements. Judaism isn't cleanly divided into Orthodox, Conservative and Reform--Those three are not the only denominations. That and really no one considers "Messianic Jews" to actually be Jews, so they're not really a denomination--They're Christians and don't belong on this poll.

Anyone who accepts that Yeshua is (or was) the Messiah is a Christian... "Messianic Jew" is just a silly term a few Jews that converted to Christianity came up with in a vain attempt to be connected with their heritage after disowning themselves from it. You'd have a tremendous amount of trouble finding anyone who is Jewish who considers "Messianic Jews" to actually be legitimate Jews... If you're going to completely give up your religion and your heritage, you can't go back and say it's yours--You can't have both ways. "Messianic Jews" are an illustration of this disparity--People who want to be connected with a heritage they've personally rejected.

ayala920

Orthodox, Conservative, Reform and Reconstructionist are the sects of Judaism recognized, at least in the US. I don't know about other countries.

As for Messianic Jews and "Jews for Jesus"... Neither are recognized as Jews within any of the Jewish movements. As far as Jews are concerned, if you believe that Jesus is the Messiah, you're not Jewish. Period.

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"Most English-speaking people...will admit that cellar door is 'beautiful', especially if dissociated from its sense (and from its spelling). More beautiful than, say, sky, and far more beautiful than beautiful. Well then, in Welsh for me cellar doors are extraordinarily frequent, and moving to the higher dimension, the words in which there is pleasure in the contemplation of the association of form and sense are abundant."

Audiofuzzy

ya know I don't believe in religions but if I were to choose I would choose Judaism...
I would even put up with circumcision..

Fuzzy

Throwstones

I am jewish since birth from my both jewish parents. I raised up in a jewish home and had been seek for the truth of Messiah [COLOR=DarkRed]Y'shua[/COLOR] till I was 17 years old and spoke to a deaf pastor about Y'shua (a jewish way to say JESUS). I considered where I was going after i die? I know in my heart that I do not believe in Y'shua and go to hell without HIm. I made a choice to have Y'shua in my heart as My personal Savior while I prayed to God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob. I knew in my heart that I can go to Heave through Y'shua[/COLOR] when I will die. I have full of joyful in my heart! Now I am 41 years old and want to tell you that God already called me to be missionary to the deaf jews when I was 18 years at senior high school because I have burden for any deaf jews for [B[COLOR=DarkRed]]Y'shua.[/B] Now I am offically missionary to the Deaf Jews since 1982. By the way I am truly Messianic Jew myself.

Second, I tell you what means "MESSIANIC" to you? It means christians. Messianic is a hebrew word for Christian. Jewish and Gentile people can be Messianic as Christian.

Shalom in Messiah

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pek1

Messianic here! And I belong to the Tribe of Judah!

ayala920

One of the fundamental beliefs of Judaism is that the messiah has not yet come to earth. Therefore, I don't understand how those of you who follow Jesus as your savior, and as the messiah, can call yourself Jewish. You're disregarding one of the most basic and well-known aspects of Judaism,

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"Most English-speaking people...will admit that cellar door is 'beautiful', especially if dissociated from its sense (and from its spelling). More beautiful than, say, sky, and far more beautiful than beautiful. Well then, in Welsh for me cellar doors are extraordinarily frequent, and moving to the higher dimension, the words in which there is pleasure in the contemplation of the association of form and sense are abundant."

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FONT=Tahoma]I used to work with Jews for Jesus in past as missionary to the deaf Jews. Once you are jewish to believe in Jesus as The Jewish Messiah, you are still Jewish. How can a jewish person remove the blood from his/her body and replace Gentile"s blood? IMPOSSIBLE!

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ayala920

Jewish is a religion and culture, but not a race/nationality.

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"Most English-speaking people...will admit that cellar door is 'beautiful', especially if dissociated from its sense (and from its spelling). More beautiful than, say, sky, and far more beautiful than beautiful. Well then, in Welsh for me cellar doors are extraordinarily frequent, and moving to the higher dimension, the words in which there is pleasure in the contemplation of the association of form and sense are abundant."

Throwstones

I mean anyone say if you believe in Jesus, you are not jewish but it is impossible. You know that Abraham did believe in Jesus the Messiah, King David did believe in Jesus the Messiah, Joseph did believe in Jesus the Messiah therefore they are jewish no matter what.

hottiedeafboi

PRAISE THE LORD, throwstones. That's a beautiful way of you shared the truth. Yes, all thru the old testaments, prophesied that Jesus (Y'shua) is a Messiah. May God use you to share the Truth of the Gospel. Smile

Heath

Yes Ayala920, Jewish people are both a race and a religion. Look throughout your Torah for frequent examples of race-mixing when God warned the jews not to race-mix and look what is happening today with the jews in Hollywood and mass media in high positions of government function are pushing for race-mixing really hard on the American people and the American people are starting to wake up and say no more to race-mixing and garbage movies and turning off the t.v. or not paying to go to the theatres to see race-mixed movies and garbage movies made and inspired by jewish Hollywood as these movies really brainwash and train people subconsiciously to submit to jewish control and authority and the American people really resent that. More and more Americans are not going to destroy themselves through what the jews force upon America.

When the Gentile Americans had control of Hollywood, they made many good movies with good moral values and not like what we see and get today from jewish inspired Hollywood made movies.

Jews always deny they are of a different race but jewish people will say they are of a religion but they never will say they are of a different race because the jews do not want you to know the real truth behind their jewish agenda.

I caught that right there. I am not afraid to name the jew.

How is it that jews refuse to race-mix but will heavily force it on the American people en masse when Americans deep down inside do not want to race-mix and the weaker ones submit to race-mixing then wake up and see what the jewish Hollywood and mass media are trying to do then they reject race-mixing because their eyes have been opened. I ask you ?

Understand one thing .....

I am not against jews themselves, no but what I am against are the behaviors of the jews that are trying to destroy the U.S.A. through various means, politically, through action and behaviors that not acceptable to the American people and the American people are starting to resent and rebel against that for many reasons and are starting to see right through the jewish smokescreen the state of Israel has set up for and forced upon America and now the Americans are starting to smarten up and say no more.

EagleCherokee63

AMEN!! SMILE YOU GOOD TESTIOMENY!!!

EagleCherokee63

If they believe in Jesus and KJV Bible say here, John 3:16.
I love studied Old Testament in Bible. I interested and met deaf jew lady. I learned her lot story life and history. We always dicussed Old Testament.

Teresh

Can you name a Rabbi of any major movement that would support your claim to being a Jew? Unless you can, then no, you're not a Jew anymore.

Part of being a Jew is not leaving the community--Converting to Christianity counts as leaving the community by pretty much any logical metric.

...Abraham didn't believe Yeshua was the Messiah. King David didn't either. Part of the problem of living an dying long before someone else is going to be born is you'd never get to meet them. Nonetheless, there is no mention of a Messiah in Genesis at all, so I don't see how it could even be *possible* for Abraham to have believed Yeshua was said Messiah when the *idea* of a Messiah didn't even exist yet in his time.

It's all well and good that you're a Anti-Semitic. Have you any other irrational complaints to go with your hate? Just remember, that Anti-Semitism is Anti-Jesus, because Jesus was a Jew.

Heath

Actually, Jews rejected and disrespected Jesus Christ so that would make me Pro-Jesus Christ plus Jesus Christ knew how to handle the jews and Jesus Christ excelled at this because Jesus Christ was a jew himself. Jesus Christ healed Deaf people, the blind and the jews hated him so much for that and in Leviticus 19:14 KJV Holy Bible, God had to come down and tell the jews to leave Deaf people alone and the jews today do not obey that. Look at the Deaf schools funds being cut if Deaf schools do not teach politically correct subjects and then the jewish controlled U.S. Dept. of Education will refuse to grant Deaf schools or universities money that are much needed for a solid Deaf education without anything else attached to the educational needs.

JeepGirl

I don't know anything about Jewish Religions, I'm sorry.. I couldn't vote .. can I have some Popcorn, please??

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Angel

Hey girl, pass the popcorn, I didn't vote since I dunno anything about Jewish Religions either

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JeepGirl

Here's your At least this is interested in reading about this kind of religion.

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""When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long and so regretfully upon the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us""

Angel

:nods in agreement: Interesting

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Teresh

...That doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever. O_o

...The DOE is controlled by Jews? Since when? Considering the largest movement of Judaism in the US is Reform and Reform has specifically stated in its theology that Deaf people need to be advanced in social standing to the same as hearing people, I find your statement kind of absurd.

Jews not responsible for your being a hateful, bigotted individual who does not understand your own religion, let alone that of other people. The only one responsible for that is you.

Jews have as much right to be in this country as you do. Deal.

Throwstones

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Yeah Right TODAH (a jewish way to say THANK YOU)!

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Can you feed me Gentile's blood into my blood? since you say to me, "You are not jewish because you are believing in JESUS. Go ahead to feed me blood transfusion! SMILE WINK! I am complete jewish and believe in Jesus who is a jewish. Remember that Jesus was a rabbi!

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[QUOTE]Jesus made me KOSHER! Because Jesus died on the cross for my sins and washed my sins away by HIS BLOOD. Jesus is a Lamb of GOD who never had a sinning in his life because He is KOSHER HOLY and GOD! Praise the LORD! Everyone (deaf Jews and Gentiles) bow and say "JESUS IS LORD" to JESUS.

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