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Unread 02-08-2008, 12:30 PM   #241 (permalink)
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Even the world's top scientists can't prove the existence of God. Science for years has tried to prove there is no God, and they couldn't come up with that prove, I find that to be quite funny. Only in death you will know the truth, and the question is, will it be too late for some people. I supposed we have to find out won't we, I'm not worried, because I have my faith with God.
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Unread 02-08-2008, 12:32 PM   #242 (permalink)
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Your friend had a lot of AD members who were able to think critically...makes for interesting reading. Maybe I should merge this thread with your thread? What do you think?
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Unread 02-08-2008, 12:33 PM   #243 (permalink)
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Even the world's top scientists can't prove the existence of God. Science for years has tried to prove there is no God, and they couldn't come up with that prove, I find that to be quite funny. Only in death you will know the truth, and the question is, will it be too late for some people. I supposed we have to find out won't we, I'm not worried, because I have my faith with God.
Niether sides could prove that there is a God or that there is no God.
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Unread 02-08-2008, 12:43 PM   #244 (permalink)
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Niether sides could prove that there is a God or that there is no God.
The first verse of the Bible starts off with: "In the beginning" The Bible explains the beginning of everything expect God. That's because God never had a beginning. He always existed. There has to be a reason for all the things that been created, it doesn't created on it's own. That's why people don't use their logic and try to figured out how the world was created because it sure cannot be created itself.
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Unread 02-08-2008, 01:01 PM   #245 (permalink)
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Wow, that's pretty interesting.. I'd better to check it out that links. for this. -curiousity on my eyes- > . >
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Unread 02-08-2008, 02:19 PM   #246 (permalink)
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Your friend had a lot of AD members who were able to think critically...makes for interesting reading. Maybe I should merge this thread with your thread? What do you think?
Why not

I see why not if you like moderator to merge your thread to my thread if you think it´s good and interesting.





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Unread 02-08-2008, 02:47 PM   #247 (permalink)
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Mods: can u merge this thread with Liebling's thread "How people become Athiest" ?

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Unread 02-08-2008, 05:56 PM   #250 (permalink)
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Defee, I already explained and also answered Rebaīs post why I beleive God and Jesus, not bible... I already told Reba that I know her answer because I know itīs not sense when I said I beleive only God and Jesus, not Bible.
Yes it does not make no sense, If you don't believe in the bible which is the word of God, then you do not believe in God or Jesus. You can't have it one way. It doesn't work that way. no offended.
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LOL, I've always been an athiest since birth. I've never involved in any religon, just respect their religon like celebrating jewish which my dads mom is. I've never became athiest. not everyone will become one but born and raised that way.
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Unread 02-08-2008, 06:12 PM   #252 (permalink)
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Unread 02-08-2008, 06:16 PM   #253 (permalink)
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Why do you care if someone is an Atheist or not?
I don't. I dunno why it's a big deal either.
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just respect their religon like celebrating jewish which my dads mom is. I've never became athiest. not everyone will become one but born and raised that way.
I agree that and thats true for who born and raised that way!

No one can change my own skin with their magical! my skin born and raise that way from parents!

I never become atheist, because I had say " there is no God in heaven nor satan in hell ". is that make me atheist? No! its me that way.
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Yes it does not make no sense, If you don't believe in the bible which is the word of God, then you do not believe in God or Jesus. You can't have it one way. It doesn't work that way. no offended.
My posts was 2 years old until I posted yesterday explain that Audiofuzzy convinced me that I am an AGNOSTIC..


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Exactly. And add to atheists the agnostics. They don't say God doesn't exist, they simply say that scientific evidence has not supported the existence of a God.
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I'm atheist for about few years, replaced from confused on agnostic and catholic. I'm not believe in God, Bible, Jesus or general of religion, including with satan. It's about my personal reason, plus I had been born and raised in catholic but it wasn't my decision, just grandma and parent made it. I feel more comfortable to be atheist, reason about issue with muslim, catholic, christianity, jews, buddhism and other more. to make more confused and conflict.

I'm proud to be freedom from religion, of course.

I do respect everyone's religion since when it's not debate or some people who are force me into religion, that's turn me off.
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Unread 02-09-2008, 08:43 AM   #259 (permalink)
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I wonder why people want to use material scientific methods for proving or disproving the existence of God? God is spirit, so how can you prove or disprove something spiritual with measurements and methods that are material? Can you measure or prove "love" in a material way? No. You can observe and experience the effects of love but you can't measure or prove love.
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I'm atheist for about few years, replaced from confused on agnostic and catholic. I'm not believe in God, Bible, Jesus or general of religion, including with satan. It's about my personal reason, plus I had been born and raised in catholic but it wasn't my decision, just grandma and parent made it. I feel more comfortable to be atheist, reason about issue with muslim, catholic, christianity, jews, buddhism and other more. to make more confused and conflict.

I'm proud to be freedom from religion, of course.

I do respect everyone's religion since when it's not debate or some people who are force me into religion, that's turn me off.
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If you believe in God and/or Jesus then you are AGNOSTIC..
How can you be able to believe in God if one doesn't believe in God's existence, it does not make no sense.

If you believe in God, You believe everything about God including God's existence, the word of God.

Being an Agnostic does not mean they do not believe in God's existence, they cannot know for certain wheather they believe or not. They are more in the middle between yes and no.
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How can you be able to believe in God if one doesn't believe in God's existence, it does not make no sense.

If you believe in God, You believe everything about God including God's existence, the word of God.

Being an Agnostic does not mean they do not believe in God's existence, they cannot know for certain wheather they believe or not. They are more in the middle between yes and no.
If you don't beleive in God which mean that you are an athesits.

If you doubt God's existence which mean that you are an Agnostic.


Fuzzy is correct that I doubt God's existence.

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If you don't beleive in God which mean that you are an athesits.

If you doubt God's existence which mean that you are an Agnostic.


Fuzzy is correct that I doubt God's existence.

You are correct. An agnostic does not say that God doesn't exist, they simply say that the evidence does not support his existence.
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You are correct. An agnostic does not say that God doesn't exist, they simply say that the evidence does not support his existence.
for agree my post.

Exactly, that's why I created this thread here to find out myself either I am atheist nor agnostic until I found out that I am really an agnostic.
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You are correct. An agnostic does not say that God doesn't exist, they simply say that the evidence does not support his existence.
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OK, on to agnostic. A - Anti. Gnostic - logical belief in God. This person claims to say "well I don't believe, but I don't disbelieve either. I don't have proof either way." But let's look at that logically. They do NOT believe
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Well, a client's mother become an Athiest because she feels that God punish her when she had her daughter born abnormal. She is jewish but still athiest any of those regilious. She doesnt believe, where the bodies will be going in heaven or hell. Just body will flesh into the ground. She is so furious with God for abnormal daughter.
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agnostic


agnosticism

Want more?? Check your fact first before posting the wrong information.
See the example of authentic´s post is agnositc which mean is beleive for see the proof.

Those links, you provided to support Jillos, Fuzzy & my claim that Agnositc mean is doubt God´s existence and want to see the proof. It´s something like that we want to see reality.


Athiest - never beleive God´s existence 100% and know for the sure 100% that God is not exist.

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Want more?? Check your fact first before posting the wrong information.
Thank you for the links, but if you will check the post I made on the description of an agnostic, you will find that your links are saying exactly the same thing I did. So I was not posting incorrect information.
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Those links, you provided to support Jillos, Fuzzy & my claim that Agnositc mean is doubt Godīs existence and want to see the proof. Itīs something like that we want to see reality.
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