Heath

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060105/...bertson_sharon

Minister Pat Robertson spoke the truth.

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Banjo

Pat Robertson is a disgrace to Christianity.

Heath

No, Banjo you are wrong.

Pat Robertson is not a disgrace to Christianity.

You are forgetting a very clear warning from God himself said in

The Word of God says... " Leave Israel Alone Do Not Touch My Holy Land and it was the Jewish homeland for them, a gift from God and Salvation is for the whole world through Jesus Christ that means you me, Deaf , The jew or gentile, or arabic or ANYONE can ask to have Jesus Christ come into their heart and lives. That is a gift to the world from God through Jesus Christ. The Messiah.

Banjo

That's just your opinion. Sorry you don't feel that way.

Pat Robertson is mentally unstable. He keep spewing all sort of crap once in a while.

apathrev

Hey, anyone remember when Pat Robertson called upon the US to assassinate Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez, saying it would be cheaper and easier? Oh, that silly Pat.

Heath

President Bush said....

" Pat Robertson is a private citizen of the U.S.A. Pat can say anything. You know, private citizens say alots of different things all time. That does not mean it is the Official United States Goverment Policy. "

apathrev

That's irrelevant to your statement of "Pat Robertson is not a disgrace to Christianity."

IslandGal

Yes I do remember that. I was like huh Pat is supposed to be a "Christian" and why would he say something like that??

apathrev

Why would he say something like that?

Endymion

With so much turmoil in the world, God decided to pay a visit
to earth to check things out. He strolled into a Burger King and
approached the first man he saw. "If you believe in me enough to
give me $50," God said, "I will grant you eternal life."

"Sorry, I'm a secular humanist and my parents were atheist,"
the fellow replied, "and have never believed in God."

God walked up to another man and made the same offer. "Well,
I'm Unitarian and not really sure if I believe in you or not,"
the second man said, "but here's 50 bucks, just in case.

As the Lord turned away, a third man ran up to him. "I'm Pat
Robertson and I don't really care whether you're God or not," he
said excitedly. "Just teach me the trick you did with that
Unitarian and I'll and I'll give you $100."

Askjo

Genesis 12:3 (KJV)

"And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."

If anyone curse Israel, God will curse them. If anyone bless Israel, God will bless them.

Endymion

What does that mean for Yassir Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas?

Dennis

Ooh. Good one. So true, this situation could be, in the real world.

Heath, you must be losing your mind. Pat Robertson isn't quoting the bible. He's twisting words to interpret various bible quotes into meaning, "You delay what I think is gonna mean the end of the world, I'm gonna kick your ass!"

There's nothing biblical supporting Israel's current size and location with the second coming.

Heath

Which one is better ?

500 million soldiers on both sides dead or just one evil man dead?

That is what Pat Robertson meant in post # 5

Endymion

Banjo,

Is that a picture of you in your avatar?

Banjo

Yes, I'm both of the guys featured in my avatar. ;-)

apathrev

500 million soldiers? Good lord, you're an idiot. Please just shut up. Cool?

Endymion

Wow, that's an excellent photoshopping job. I like the expression on your faces!

Endymion

Heath,

Why is Hugo Chavez evil? Is it his populist/socialist tendencies? Is it his Robin Hood attitude (take oil from the rich, give to the poor in Venezuela), or what?

apathrev

Yeah. How dare he offer the United States discounted oil prices after Hurricane Katrina.

Reba

Arafat has already found out.

chirowife03

This is a perfect example of a man NOT being called of God. Pat is NOT a prophet of god. He is a man called of himself. He has no right to say such things...

Wanna see a real prophet, he doesn't say things like that.

lds.org

Penni

Reba

There are no prophets today. No one knows the future beyond what God has revealed in the Holy Bible.

Rose Immortal

Um...then what's being talked about in Romans 12 here? Something different?

Romans 12 in its entirety: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...ontext=chapter

Reba

Yes.

I should have written, "no prophets today like the O.T. prophets who foretold future events from a direct revelation of God." Sorry for the "quick" post that wasn't clear.

As the word "prophecy" is used in this verse, it does not mean a future prediction; it means telling forth the message of God.

As Matthew Henry's Commentary explains:
"Prophecy. Whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith. It is not meant of the extraordinary gifts of foretelling things to come, but the ordinary office of preaching the word: so prophesying is taken, 1 Co. 14:1 endash 3, etc.; 11:4; 1 Th. 5:20. The work of the Old-Testament prophets was not only to foretel future things, but to warn the people concerning sin and duty, and to be their remembrancers concerning that which they knew before. And thus gospel preachers are prophets, and do indeed, as far as the revelation of the word goes, foretel things to come. Preaching refers to the eternal condition of the children of men, points directly at a future state."

So it means preaching God's Word as it is already in the Bible; it doesn't mean predicting events that are not in the Bible.

For example, a preacher can preach on the prophesies of Daniel or the future events of Revelation because those are recorded in the Bible. A preacher can NOT predict a future event (like the next US Presidential election) or details (like the human name of the Anti-Christ, or the date of the Rapture) that aren't included in the Bible.

Also, Vine's Expository Dictionary of NT Words states:
"Though much of O.T. prophecy was purely predictive, prophecy is not necessarily, nor even primarily, fore-telling. . . With the completion of the canon of Scripture prophecy apparently passed away . . . the teacher has taken the place of the prophet . . . The difference is that, whereas the message of the prophet was a direct revelation of the mind of God for the occasion, the message of the teacher is gathered from the completed revelation contained in the Scriptures."

Rose Immortal

Ah, OK...that definitely clears it up.