"The Cross and the Switchblade" - My step-father

**Maria** · 12-08-2005, 06:02 PM

Thank you for explainin' what your strongly belief is.

Yes, I understand about respectin' people for their different beliefs, but I still feel that it's my duty to spread the gospel when Jesus commanded us to do. It doesn't mean that I shove the bible down in their throats like for some people would think. It's just that I like to tell it until they tell me that they don't want to hear about it...then, I will stop and move on to elsewhere. ( You sow what you reap - that's another famous quote ). If, they like to discuss and learn, then I will continue to share and discuss together. I don't want them to think about ME, sayin' like my "religion" is better than theirs or whatever their religion is. All I want them to think about JESUS and how HE died for them and that HE loves them so much. He would love to have relationship with them personally. That's all there's to it - and, have them to chose their own church whichever is more comfortable for them to attend.

I grew up in Catholic church with my biological parents - in New York City where I was born from. From there, I attended a private school ( Catholic ) for a few years until my parents divorced ... I was like probably about 5 years old. And, after that we moved to Fresno, California - changed to different church after my mother remarried to my step-father. Protestant. I grew up attendin' to that church with my family for 8 years. My step-father WAS President of Mau Maus Gang in New York City and God changed his life after he was slammed in prision for manslaughter. His sentence was reduced after he accepted Jesus Christ as his personal Saviour. God moved in his life. My step-father became a minister after he got out of jail. David Wilkerson was the one who won my step-father's soul to Christ. Nicky Cruz was my step-father's best pal and he was Vice President. Nicky Cruz still preached and worked on helpin' with troubled teens in North Carolina state. The book called "The Cross and the Switchblade" - both of my step-father and Nicky Cruz were in that book to tell their story. My step-father wrote a book "Second Chance" - my siblings and I were in that book ( small details ).

I would love to tell more, but I am afraid it will go off topic since Vampy said to stick with the topic what Lieblin' want all of us to discuss about "self-esteem/low self-esteem" ... Gee - Lieblin', I apologized again. *smh at myself* lol I just want to share it with Cookie Monster and for her to get to know me a little bit...and errr umm YOU, too.

CM ! You have a great day and stay your true love to Chris.

( Understandin' this, this is NOT On-topic debates )

pek1 · 12-08-2005, 06:48 PM

Nicky Cruz still in the ministry? Wow, that's a testimony, but, I hope he has moved beyond the gangs and tells of all God has done for him. Remember, we need to keep pointing people to the Saviour. What's Nicky's website?

Y · 12-08-2005, 06:55 PM

Nicky Cruz website:
http://www.nickycruz.org/

Very interesting true story about Nicky Cruz and David Wilkerson...
http://www.davidwilkerson.org/hislif...itchblade.html

Nancy · 12-08-2005, 07:08 PM

I saw the movie "The Cross and the Switchblade" years ago....actor Erik Estrada (he played Ponch on TV's "CHiPs" in the 1980s) was one of the stars on that movie, and I think he played Nicky Cruz, the leader of the gang. It was a really good movie.

**Maria** · 12-08-2005, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pek1

Nicky Cruz still in the ministry? Wow, that's a testimony, but, I hope he has moved beyond the gangs and tells of all God has done for him. Remember, we need to keep pointing people to the Saviour. What's Nicky's website?

Yes, he is still in the ministry. Surprised ? He is still in the ministry for over 40 years. I met his wife in 1970's. His wife named Gloria. They have their own children - all girls, no boys.

Safari · 12-08-2005, 07:42 PM

I don't mind off-topic though. :-) You've a remarkable testimony about your stepfather. Thank Lord for saving him and still ministry to the teens. Teens need Christ in their lives. Your stepfather wrote the book "Second Chance" seems kind of familiar from what I heard.

12-08-2005, 09:21 PM

Thanks CR for sharing your personal experiences in this thread with fellow ADers. It is quite nice to have someone related out of the "Cross and the Switchblade" share personal experiences and answer questions.

12-08-2005, 10:10 PM

Hi CyberRed

I've been wanting to say something to you earlier today but many times something came up here in my computer and over there around my house. I failed to plan to post here. So, finally all here is quiet. Here is what I want to tell you.....

WOW!!!!!! Thanks so much for sharing your very personal experiences with us!! I can imagine that it must be very hard on you and your family!! Jesus wanted you to share with us all as you taught us so much!! What your step-father had been thru and became a strong christian is so powerful!!!! God is so AMAZING and so WONDERFUL!!!!

God bless you and your family!!!!

Warm Regards,
Momoftwo

**Maria** · 12-08-2005, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cookie Monster

Thanks CR for sharing your personal experiences in this thread with fellow ADers. It is quite nice to have someone related out of the "Cross and the Switchblade" share personal experiences and answer questions.

You are welcome.

Nicky Cruz and his family are now resided in New York City. From the last time I heard he was in North Carolina to help with troubled teens and shared his "gang" experience with them and how he found Christ in his life. He traveled in many places.

My step-father is Israel. He is still in the ministry. He resided in West Coast. He remarried and had 3 sons ... 2 daughters from previous marriage ( my mother ). I will explain about my mother's situation a little bit in Lieblin's thread. It related to "self-esteem".

Here's the link I would like to share with you and other fellow ADers.

Nicky Cruz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Cruz

**Maria** · 12-08-2005, 10:54 PM

Fellow ADers,

Here's the link:

Nicky Cruz: Salvation in the Jungles of New York
http://www.cbn.com/700club/Guests/In...Cruz112105.asp

That's his testimony !

Peachy Lady · 12-08-2005, 10:54 PM

I wonder if your step-father became christian, quit gang and then later married your mother? Or was it during your mother's marriage to him? I will want to watch the movie "The Cross and the Switchblade." Does Blockbuster carry those movies?

**Maria** · 12-08-2005, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peachy Lady

I wonder if your step-father became christian, quit gang and then later married your mother? Or was it during your mother's marriage to him? I will want to watch the movie "The Cross and the Switchblade." Does Blockbuster carry those movies?

You will see the link above that I provided to Cookie Monster - look for my step-father's name in there, click it and read in there.

The movie "The Cross and the Switchblade" do not carry C.C. You don't mind to buy it without C.C. ? lol

( I can't live without C.C.

)

IslandGal · 12-08-2005, 11:14 PM

It is really very interesting to read stories about Nick Cruz and Israel Narvaez (CyberRed's stepfather). I would like to watch the movie "The Cross and the Switchblade". Looking forward to read more of your stories, CyberRed

Peachy Lady · 12-08-2005, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberRed

You will see the link above that I provided to Cookie Monster - look for my step-father's name in there, click it and read in there.

The movie "The Cross and the Switchblade" do not carry C.C. You don't mind to buy it without C.C. ? lol

( I can't live without C.C.

)

I can't live w/o CC either! oh well....

I really enjoyed reading story that you told us. Tell us more if you have some.

Opal · 12-08-2005, 11:35 PM

sorry it's off topic here about other thread since I want to tell you about the bible's authors, I think Jesus chose his 12 apostles, and told them to write books about him after his death, half of them like Peter, Luke, Matthew, Mark kept their promised.

Jesus chose them to become his biography authors!!

whoops

here!!

**Maria** · 12-08-2005, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamara

sorry it's off topic here about other thread since I want to tell you about the bible's authors, I think Jesus chose his 12 apostles, and told them to write books about him after his death, half of them like Peter, Luke, Matthew, Mark kept their promised.

Jesus chose them to become his biography authors!!

whoops

here!!

Why don't you say it in your post in other thread ? You make me laugh.

It would be nice to hear this directly from you.

Go ahead and post it in there.

**Maria** · 12-08-2005, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peachy Lady

I can't live w/o CC either! oh well....

I really enjoyed reading story that you told us. Tell us more if you have some.

I will. I promise. Probably not tonight, but tomorrow - for sure.

It's almost midnight here.

**Liebling:-)))** · 12-09-2005, 02:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamara

sorry it's off topic here about other thread since I want to tell you about the bible's authors, I think Jesus chose his 12 apostles, and told them to write books about him after his death, half of them like Peter, Luke, Matthew, Mark kept their promised.

Jesus chose them to become his biography authors!!

whoops

here!!

It's scriptures, Jesus's choose his 12 apostles to write, not image words what the authors translate from scriptures.

Sorry

**Liebling:-)))** · 12-09-2005, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberRed

Why don't you say it in your post in other thread ? You make me laugh.

It would be nice to hear this directly from you.

Go ahead and post it in there.

Post at my thread to make more

?

Here or any relignon threads.

Back to topic..

Thank you for share your interesting posts here. I enjoy myself to read your post here. I am going to read your links and will be back for further question later after finish read links, CyberRed.

**Maria** · 12-09-2005, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liebling:-)))

It's scriptures, Jesus's choose his 12 apostles to write, not image words what the authors translate from scriptures.

Sorry

I think she means someone else's thread, not your thread. I think the thread is "Where does God come from originally ?" That's where I mentioned about apostles/disciples in there.

XBGMER · 12-09-2005, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamara

sorry it's off topic here about other thread since I want to tell you about the bible's authors, I think Jesus chose his 12 apostles, and told them to write books about him after his death, half of them like Peter, Luke, Matthew, Mark kept their promised.

Jesus chose them to become his biography authors!!

whoops

here!!

Tamara, There in mind without doubt, I am completely agree with your comments!

everyone, sorry "off-topic" around... Let you people go back on cyberred's topic!

enjoy stay in forums.......

**Maria** · 12-09-2005, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peachy Lady

I can't live w/o CC either! oh well....

I really enjoyed reading story that you told us. Tell us more if you have some.

I just found it. I hope it has CC in that movie. Wonderin' if "Subtitles" will work for CC, right ?

Here's the link to check for CC ( Subtitles ):

The Cross and the Switchblade - DVD
http://www.visionvideo.com/374-98819...983_3086.vhtml

DVD Features:
Languages: English, Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian, German and Polish language tracks with or without English
Subtitles: English
Viewing Format: Widescreen
Audio:
Bonus Material:
Director's Commentary
Producer's Commentary
-Biographical information on actors, director’s commentary, testimony by Nicky Cruz, and a look back on the making of the film and its impact
-Chapter titles for easy scene access

Time: 1 hr 45 min
Production Year: 1972

dkf747 · 12-09-2005, 08:31 AM

I met Nicky Cruz back in 1991, IIRC. He preached in Detroit, in the Clark Park area (SW Detroit). I ate lunch with him, my Pastor and several others. I'm not sure if his wife was there. He preached good!

IslandGal · 12-09-2005, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberRed

I just found it. I hope it has CC in that movie. Wonderin' if "Subtitles" will work for CC, right ?

Here's the link to check for CC ( Subtitles ):

The Cross and the Switchblade - DVD
http://www.visionvideo.com/374-98819...983_3086.vhtml

DVD Features:
Languages: English, Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian, German and Polish language tracks with or without English
Subtitles: English
Viewing Format: Widescreen
Audio:
Bonus Material:
Director's Commentary
Producer's Commentary
-Biographical information on actors, director’s commentary, testimony by Nicky Cruz, and a look back on the making of the film and its impact
-Chapter titles for easy scene access

Time: 1 hr 45 min
Production Year: 1972

Thanks for the link! I will order the DVD one day soon. I am also thinking of buying the book "Second Chance: The Israel Navarez Story".

**Maria** · 12-09-2005, 01:02 PM

Great ! Hope you will enjoy it. That movie is very impactin' and powerful tool.

I plan to order that movie as well - to show my bf.

**Maria** · 12-09-2005, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkf747

I met Nicky Cruz back in 1991, IIRC. He preached in Detroit, in the Clark Park area (SW Detroit). I ate lunch with him, my Pastor and several others. I'm not sure if his wife was there. He preached good!

I met him several times while growin' up. I also met his wife, Gloria. He can speak fluently in 2 different languages: Spanish and English.

pek1 · 12-09-2005, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y

Nicky Cruz website:
http://www.nickycruz.org/

Very interesting true story about Nicky Cruz and David Wilkerson...
http://www.davidwilkerson.org/hislif...itchblade.html

Thanks, Y,

I heard a number of years ago that David Wilkerson felt he was losing the ministry and noticed how materialistic he was getting and sold off all his antique car collection and moved right back into NYC itself. CyberRed, is this true?

Also, didn't know Nicky was in Nigeria a few days ago. If I had known, would have told my fiancee' there to go hear him, as that's where she lives.

Also, does Nicky Cruz allow volunteers to accompany him to foreign countries?

Askjo · 12-09-2005, 08:59 PM

CyberRed, I watched a movie, and it was a good story. Awesome emotion!

**Maria** · 12-09-2005, 09:37 PM

I heard a number of years ago that David Wilkerson felt he was losing the ministry and noticed how materialistic he was getting and sold off all his antique car collection and moved right back into NYC itself. CyberRed, is this true?
I have no clue honestly. I don't really pay attention to David Wilkerson about what happened to him. I wish I knew.

Also, didn't know Nicky was in Nigeria a few days ago. If I had known, would have told my fiancee' there to go hear him, as that's where she lives.

Also, does Nicky Cruz allow volunteers to accompany him to foreign countries?

Where did you find that information about foreign countries ? All I know that he preached all different states in the USA - but to foreign countries ?

**Maria** · 12-09-2005, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Askjo

CyberRed, I watched a movie, and it was a good story. Awesome emotion!

Yep, it was a good story - very impacted tool !

12-08-2005, 06:02 PM	#1 (permalink)
Maria Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 10,309	"The Cross and the Switchblade" - My step-father Thank you for explainin' what your strongly belief is. Yes, I understand about respectin' people for their different beliefs, but I still feel that it's my duty to spread the gospel when Jesus commanded us to do. It doesn't mean that I shove the bible down in their throats like for some people would think. It's just that I like to tell it until they tell me that they don't want to hear about it...then, I will stop and move on to elsewhere. ( You sow what you reap - that's another famous quote ). If, they like to discuss and learn, then I will continue to share and discuss together. I don't want them to think about ME, sayin' like my "religion" is better than theirs or whatever their religion is. All I want them to think about JESUS and how HE died for them and that HE loves them so much. He would love to have relationship with them personally. That's all there's to it - and, have them to chose their own church whichever is more comfortable for them to attend. I grew up in Catholic church with my biological parents - in New York City where I was born from. From there, I attended a private school ( Catholic ) for a few years until my parents divorced ... I was like probably about 5 years old. And, after that we moved to Fresno, California - changed to different church after my mother remarried to my step-father. Protestant. I grew up attendin' to that church with my family for 8 years. My step-father WAS President of Mau Maus Gang in New York City and God changed his life after he was slammed in prision for manslaughter. His sentence was reduced after he accepted Jesus Christ as his personal Saviour. God moved in his life. My step-father became a minister after he got out of jail. David Wilkerson was the one who won my step-father's soul to Christ. Nicky Cruz was my step-father's best pal and he was Vice President. Nicky Cruz still preached and worked on helpin' with troubled teens in North Carolina state. The book called "The Cross and the Switchblade" - both of my step-father and Nicky Cruz were in that book to tell their story. My step-father wrote a book "Second Chance" - my siblings and I were in that book ( small details ). I would love to tell more, but I am afraid it will go off topic since Vampy said to stick with the topic what Lieblin' want all of us to discuss about "self-esteem/low self-esteem" ... Gee - Lieblin', I apologized again. smh at myself lol I just want to share it with Cookie Monster and for her to get to know me a little bit...and errr umm YOU, too. CM ! You have a great day and stay your true love to Chris. ( Understandin' this, this is NOT On-topic debates )

12-08-2005, 06:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
pek1 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: When I survey the wondrous Cross . . . Posts: 3,996	Nicky Cruz still in the ministry? Wow, that's a testimony, but, I hope he has moved beyond the gangs and tells of all God has done for him. Remember, we need to keep pointing people to the Saviour. What's Nicky's website? __________________ Pete

12-08-2005, 06:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Y Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,113	Nicky Cruz website: http://www.nickycruz.org/ Very interesting true story about Nicky Cruz and David Wilkerson... http://www.davidwilkerson.org/hislif...itchblade.html __________________

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Peachy Lady Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,176	I wonder if your step-father became christian, quit gang and then later married your mother? Or was it during your mother's marriage to him? I will want to watch the movie "The Cross and the Switchblade." Does Blockbuster carry those movies? __________________

12-08-2005, 11:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
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12-08-2005, 07:08 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nancy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Central FL Posts: 2,288	I saw the movie "The Cross and the Switchblade" years ago....actor Erik Estrada (he played Ponch on TV's "CHiPs" in the 1980s) was one of the stars on that movie, and I think he played Nicky Cruz, the leader of the gang. It was a really good movie.

12-08-2005, 07:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
Safari Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 162	I don't mind off-topic though. :-) You've a remarkable testimony about your stepfather. Thank Lord for saving him and still ministry to the teens. Teens need Christ in their lives. Your stepfather wrote the book "Second Chance" seems kind of familiar from what I heard.

12-08-2005, 09:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
Cookie Monster Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks CR for sharing your personal experiences in this thread with fellow ADers. It is quite nice to have someone related out of the "Cross and the Switchblade" share personal experiences and answer questions.

12-08-2005, 10:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
Momoftwo Guest Posts: n/a	Hi CyberRed I've been wanting to say something to you earlier today but many times something came up here in my computer and over there around my house. I failed to plan to post here. So, finally all here is quiet. Here is what I want to tell you..... WOW!!!!!! Thanks so much for sharing your very personal experiences with us!! I can imagine that it must be very hard on you and your family!! Jesus wanted you to share with us all as you taught us so much!! What your step-father had been thru and became a strong christian is so powerful!!!! God is so AMAZING and so WONDERFUL!!!! God bless you and your family!!!! Warm Regards, Momoftwo

12-08-2005, 10:54 PM	#10 (permalink)
Maria Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 10,309	Fellow ADers, Here's the link: Nicky Cruz: Salvation in the Jungles of New York http://www.cbn.com/700club/Guests/In...Cruz112105.asp That's his testimony !

12-08-2005, 11:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
IslandGal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Sunshine State Posts: 4,322	It is really very interesting to read stories about Nick Cruz and Israel Narvaez (CyberRed's stepfather). I would like to watch the movie "The Cross and the Switchblade". Looking forward to read more of your stories, CyberRed

12-09-2005, 08:31 AM	#23 (permalink)
dkf747 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: DC Area Posts: 916	I met Nicky Cruz back in 1991, IIRC. He preached in Detroit, in the Clark Park area (SW Detroit). I ate lunch with him, my Pastor and several others. I'm not sure if his wife was there. He preached good!

12-09-2005, 01:02 PM	#25 (permalink)
Maria Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 10,309	Great ! Hope you will enjoy it. That movie is very impactin' and powerful tool. I plan to order that movie as well - to show my bf.

12-09-2005, 08:59 PM	#28 (permalink)
Askjo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 722	CyberRed, I watched a movie, and it was a good story. Awesome emotion!

12-09-2005, 09:37 PM	#29 (permalink)
Maria Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: WISCONSIN Posts: 10,309	I heard a number of years ago that David Wilkerson felt he was losing the ministry and noticed how materialistic he was getting and sold off all his antique car collection and moved right back into NYC itself. CyberRed, is this true? I have no clue honestly. I don't really pay attention to David Wilkerson about what happened to him. I wish I knew. Also, didn't know Nicky was in Nigeria a few days ago. If I had known, would have told my fiancee' there to go hear him, as that's where she lives. Also, does Nicky Cruz allow volunteers to accompany him to foreign countries? Where did you find that information about foreign countries ? All I know that he preached all different states in the USA - but to foreign countries ?

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