ZVRS said NO to Z4 on HTC EVO!!

Dodge Trucker · 09-23-2010, 10:04 PM

Watch / Read my video!! UGH!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtAG1R0elyE

ComputerLover · 09-23-2010, 10:25 PM

I agree with this video, he's right... i don't care about zvrs or z4 not support my htc evo..

darkage · 09-23-2010, 10:48 PM

I have seen some VLOG. Few people talked about HTC EVO is not smooth video compare to iPhone 4. They made me think to stay away EVO. Of course, I like EVO but I already know what they said not great review from other people have experience with video phone.

I am not disappointed with HTC EVO and mobile VP/ZVRS

Little over 2 weeks ago, I talked with ZVRS/CSDVRS customer service. They told me that mobile Z4 still problem with HTC EVO. Easier to work on project with Samsung EPIC. I told them that both are same Android. How come EPIC is easier better than. They told me that both cell phones are not same tech.

I watched live video at 2pm. It was little late than 2pm. Finally to see live video online. The guy explained about ipod Touch and ZVRS. Then, I waited for next subject about iphone and Epic but it is off air. That's all news about iPod Touch.

I called ZVRS/CSDVRS's customer service. I complained about waste my time at workplace. Few days ago, they send email spread to everyone, "Important mobile videophone announcement from ZVRS this Thursday". They have poor info in email.

They suppose to let everyone know what is specific equipment then we will watch or not.

ubuntu · 09-24-2010, 06:15 AM

Another post containing incomplete information. People seriously need to get their facts. ZVRS is not saying "we refuse to make software for the EVO." ZVRS CAN NOT use their current software provider to make the Z4 Mobile on the HTC EVO. Why, you ask? A different VRS company has an exclusivity contract with the software maker to be the SOLE provider of VRS on the HTC EVO using that specific software.

So before you go out and bash a company, get your facts.

NOTE: I do not have a viewable source of this since it is not public information. I know this because I have very close friends that work for a VRS company. Some that are engineers and some in marketing.

Dodge Trucker · 09-24-2010, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubuntu

Another post containing incomplete information. People seriously need to get their facts. ZVRS is not saying "we refuse to make software for the EVO." ZVRS CAN NOT use their current software provider to make the Z4 Mobile on the HTC EVO. Why, you ask? A different VRS company has an exclusivity contract with the software maker to be the SOLE provider of VRS on the HTC EVO using that specific software.

So before you go out and bash a company, get your facts.

NOTE: I do not have a viewable source of this since it is not public information. I know this because I have very close friends that work for a VRS company. Some that are engineers and some in marketing.

I agree with you on this, but answer me this question for me. Why did Zvrs continually say "we're working on it " but if they knew that the software would not be able to go on the Htc, why couldnt they get ahead of the game and announce officially that they will Not do it? Why keep quiet and be misleading? I font care about the software but just why they didn't say "NO"? You understand my perspective?

lilbugsb3 · 09-24-2010, 06:32 AM

Yep, I used to work for ZVRS, that is how THEY doing like that. They like to put a high hope for the deaf then BAM. it is not out or whatever any reasons. I must clap to Sorenson, they do not tell everyone that we're work on it. Sorenson tends to make the final decision to release for any products or whatever.

a,d BTW, I will not use mainstream VRS, I think I do not trust them and they did not give more information such as address, whos ceo etc..

ubuntu · 09-24-2010, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge Trucker

I agree with you on this, but answer me this question for me. Why did Zvrs continually say "we're working on it " but if they knew that the software would not be able to go on the Htc, why couldnt they get ahead of the game and announce officially that they will Not do it? Why keep quiet and be misleading? I font care about the software but just why they didn't say "NO"? You understand my perspective?

The "we're working on it" was genuine. Working on it was, quite possibly, ZVRS trying to work with the software maker to convince them that exclusive rights would be a bad thing. However, that obviously did not happen. Unfortunately, the other VRS company got their contract and now the EVO owners will suffer for it.

This is not ZVRS' fault.

ubuntu · 09-24-2010, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lilbugsb3

*snip*and BTW, I will not use mainstream VRS, I think I do not trust them and they did not give more information such as address, whos ceo etc..

I completely agree with this comment. Not to mention...look at their website... It looks like my 13 year old cousin made it using Geocities.

What is Geocities?

darkage · 09-24-2010, 07:43 AM

I agree with ubuntu.

I will not agree with computerLover. He/She needs more careful to research what other EVO users have experience with EVO & VP.

over 2 weeks ago, I already know what ZVRS's customer service and tech support. Tech person and I talked something on EVO, iphone, ipod touch and EPIC. They did work on software for EVO but can't run as smooth video. All other devices are fine and not much problem.

My son still wants to have EVO. I suggest him to take EPIC instead EVO. He is stubborn stay with EVO because they have HDMI interface and bigger screen. He gave me hard time to make him change his mind.

DurableEngine · 09-24-2010, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubuntu

Another post containing incomplete information. People seriously need to get their facts. ZVRS is not saying "we refuse to make software for the EVO." ZVRS CAN NOT use their current software provider to make the Z4 Mobile on the HTC EVO. Why, you ask? A different VRS company has an exclusivity contract with the software maker to be the SOLE provider of VRS on the HTC EVO using that specific software.

So before you go out and bash a company, get your facts.

NOTE: I do not have a viewable source of this since it is not public information. I know this because I have very close friends that work for a VRS company. Some that are engineers and some in marketing.

Your information is accurate, Ubuntu. ZVRS - they do not know how to tell the truth to their customers. That's the major problem.

ubuntu · 09-24-2010, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DurableEngine

Your information is accurate, Ubuntu. ZVRS - they do not know how to tell the truth to their customers. That's the major problem.

What truth do you want? ZVRS has stated that they will not make software for the EVO. What is it that you want?

66dude · 09-24-2010, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubuntu

What truth do you want? ZVRS has stated that they will not make software for the EVO. What is it that you want?

The truth is what he wants to hear whether it's right or wrong!

On a more serious note, download the app from the other VRS provider on your HTC EVO 4G and use the app to call ZVRS. BAM! Problem solved!

ubuntu · 09-24-2010, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66dude

The truth is what he wants to hear whether it's right or wrong!

On a more serious note, download the app from the other VRS provider on your HTC EVO 4G and use the app to call ZVRS. BAM! Problem solved!

Dial around. Perfect.

ComputerLover · 09-24-2010, 10:58 AM

Quote:

darkage:
I agree with ubuntu.

I will not agree with computerLover. He/She needs more careful to research what other EVO users have experience with EVO & VP.

over 2 weeks ago, I already know what ZVRS's customer service and tech support. Tech person and I talked something on EVO, iphone, ipod touch and EPIC. They did work on software for EVO but can't run as smooth video. All other devices are fine and not much problem.

My son still wants to have EVO. I suggest him to take EPIC instead EVO. He is stubborn stay with EVO because they have HDMI interface and bigger screen. He gave me hard time to make him change his mind.

yes hdtv's hdmi ...Darkage, Let go.... your son want Htc EVO need happy than unwant-unhappy with Samsung Epic

dark · 09-24-2010, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComputerLover

yes hdtv's hdmi ...Darkage, Let go.... your son want Htc EVO need happy than unwant-unhappy with Samsung Epic

well said, sir.

Second, let him be if he doesnt care about vrs not being feature on evo yet. nothing wrong.

P.s i like Fring app than Qik due to quality and features. :]

dark · 09-24-2010, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 66dude

The truth is what he wants to hear whether it's right or wrong!

On a more serious note, download the app from the other VRS provider on your HTC EVO 4G and use the app to call ZVRS. BAM! Problem solved!

dont mind telling me whats name of that app? Im interested to checking it out.

ubuntu · 09-24-2010, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dark

dont mind telling me whats name of that app? Im interested to checking it out.

It's not in the Android Market yet.

Dodge Trucker · 09-24-2010, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubuntu

The "we're working on it" was genuine. Working on it was, quite possibly, ZVRS trying to work with the software maker to convince them that exclusive rights would be a bad thing. However, that obviously did not happen. Unfortunately, the other VRS company got their contract and now the EVO owners will suffer for it.

This is not ZVRS' fault.

ubuntu....granted...you are correct. I am all for the "working on it". Its true it was genuine..up to a point. They stated that they were working on it: meaning working on HTC. They also stated at a much later time that when Epic came around, they dropped HTC and worked on EPIC. What I am trying to get at is, they should have had a responsibility to announce to the public in a public press release or a announcement of some kind right then and there that they will no longer be working on HTC Evo and that they will be focusing on Epic.

They stringed us along until they started mumbling about using EPIC only.

My whole point to this conversation is, they should have been responsible and respectful enough to not let HTC EVO presume they're still working on it..meaning HTC.

XBGMER · 09-26-2010, 08:41 PM

I am neutral.. Mmm.. my cellphone had no FFC feature, but this is very interesting topic!

ubuntu · 09-27-2010, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge Trucker

ubuntu....granted...you are correct. I am all for the "working on it". Its true it was genuine..up to a point. They stated that they were working on it: meaning working on HTC. They also stated at a much later time that when Epic came around, they dropped HTC and worked on EPIC. What I am trying to get at is, they should have had a responsibility to announce to the public in a public press release or a announcement of some kind right then and there that they will no longer be working on HTC Evo and that they will be focusing on Epic.

They stringed us along until they started mumbling about using EPIC only.

My whole point to this conversation is, they should have been responsible and respectful enough to not let HTC EVO presume they're still working on it..meaning HTC.

I humbly disagree. Not every company that stops working on something does or needs to announce it to the whole world. ZVRS did what they could, and when it was no longer feasible they changed directions to the next best (actually better IMHO) thing. Also, to my knowledge, ZVRS never sent out any press release or emails stating that it would happen. Yes, a few times on Facebook and maybe a call or two to Customer Service would have showed some people saying that it was being worked on, but there were no big announcements that I saw. If there was, I would like to see it.

MacFreak · 09-27-2010, 09:16 AM

I think they are busy focus on Epic since it working good compared to EVO. That's my gut.

MacFreak · 10-29-2010, 08:39 AM

I learned that EPIC have DLAN able to use HDTV buildin DLAN without using HDMI. Thats awesome! I dont understand people stuck with EVO because with HDMI. They didnt realized that have DLAN wireless hook up to HDTV

darkage · 10-29-2010, 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacFreak

I learned that EPIC have DLAN able to use HDTV buildin DLAN without using HDMI. Thats awesome! I dont understand people stuck with EVO because with HDMI. They didnt realized that have DLAN wireless hook up to HDTV

Not many HDTVs have built in DLAN. Most people already have HDTV without DLAN. Most of us do not want to buy other HDTV.

Most new model 2011 have built-in DLAN.

I already have 4 HDTVs at home and give 1 HDTV to my parents. Not many people have more than 2 or 3 HDTV at home.

I agree with MacFreak said, "I don't understand people stuck with EVO because......" I know they forget about HDMI does not support Closed Caption!!

DeafWarrior · 10-30-2010, 02:04 PM

LMAO!!! I can not help but to see the pattern here. The facts are simply that most of you have fallen under the VRS providers trap and now you are like a drug user looking for your next fix. Once you all realize that ALL VRS PROVIDERS are nothing but businesses you will realize how ignorant you sound. Can you truly state that using the mobile application for whatever cell phone you use is an advantage? One of my friends call me using her phone and I told her to throw it in the garbage, it is not truly practical, it is , like many of the "developments" from all these useless providers, another way to get you routed to their services so they can bill more minutes and generate revenues and profits for them. More retreats in some sunny place with plenty of drinks and bad mouthing the deaf and hoh. No mobile phone will ever be able to compare to the clarity and connectivity of a real VP. Quit bashing the providers (they are all managed by greedy, spineless and hypocritical people) and get on with real life issues.

posts from hell · 10-31-2010, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafWarrior

LMAO!!! I can not help but to see the pattern here. The facts are simply that most of you have fallen under the VRS providers trap and now you are like a drug user looking for your next fix. Once you all realize that ALL VRS PROVIDERS are nothing but businesses you will realize how ignorant you sound. Can you truly state that using the mobile application for whatever cell phone you use is an advantage? One of my friends call me using her phone and I told her to throw it in the garbage, it is not truly practical, it is , like many of the "developments" from all these useless providers, another way to get you routed to their services so they can bill more minutes and generate revenues and profits for them. More retreats in some sunny place with plenty of drinks and bad mouthing the deaf and hoh. No mobile phone will ever be able to compare to the clarity and connectivity of a real VP. Quit bashing the providers (they are all managed by greedy, spineless and hypocritical people) and get on with real life issues.

who peed in your wheaties?

+1 for crab theory.

ubuntu · 11-01-2010, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafWarrior

LMAO!!! I can not help but to see the pattern here. The facts are simply that most of you have fallen under the VRS providers trap and now you are like a drug user looking for your next fix. Once you all realize that ALL VRS PROVIDERS are nothing but businesses you will realize how ignorant you sound. Can you truly state that using the mobile application for whatever cell phone you use is an advantage? One of my friends call me using her phone and I told her to throw it in the garbage, it is not truly practical, it is , like many of the "developments" from all these useless providers, another way to get you routed to their services so they can bill more minutes and generate revenues and profits for them. More retreats in some sunny place with plenty of drinks and bad mouthing the deaf and hoh. No mobile phone will ever be able to compare to the clarity and connectivity of a real VP. Quit bashing the providers (they are all managed by greedy, spineless and hypocritical people) and get on with real life issues.

I'm sure a lot of people said that about cell phones for hearing people. Mobile is the future and it's not going away.

MacFreak · 02-22-2011, 12:40 PM

Not anymore...

YouTube - Z4 Mobile for EVO Coming March 1

snallga · 02-22-2011, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacFreak

Not anymore...

YouTube - Z4 Mobile for EVO Coming March 1

I bet HTC EVO users wipes tear and get relief to use Z4 mobile on it. I am sure they are very happy about it.

purplecatty · 02-22-2011, 07:42 PM

To all the first to nearly last posting about ZVRS, It's not ZVRS's fault. I just learned that Mainstream VRS grabbed the contract with Mirial for Miroid software for HTC EVO. Sprint and ZVRS was sooo upset and Mirial apologized for screw ups. Actually ZVRS were planning to have Z4 for EVO but Mainstream VRS refuse to modify and share contract.

Finally now, Z4 for EVO!!

It have NOTHING to do with video quality. I've tested with MainstreamVRS VP software on my EVO. It works smoothly on 4G or Wifi. It's same software that Z4 have.

This is why ZVRS at first decide to go for Sammy Epic cuz it's available and up to grab so ZVRS be the first to grab.

Now that I can have Z4 on my EVO!!

and expel the MainstreamVRS software!!!

Catty

lilbugsb3 · 02-23-2011, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purplecatty

To all the first to nearly last posting about ZVRS, It's not ZVRS's fault. I just learned that Mainstream VRS grabbed the contract with Mirial for Miroid software for HTC EVO. Sprint and ZVRS was sooo upset and Mirial apologized for screw ups. Actually ZVRS were planning to have Z4 for EVO but Mainstream VRS refuse to modify and share contract.

Finally now, Z4 for EVO!!

It have NOTHING to do with video quality. I've tested with MainstreamVRS VP software on my EVO. It works smoothly on 4G or Wifi. It's same software that Z4 have.

This is why ZVRS at first decide to go for Sammy Epic cuz it's available and up to grab so ZVRS be the first to grab.

Now that I can have Z4 on my EVO!!

and expel the MainstreamVRS software!!!

Catty

I have a new EVO with me. I compared to Mainstream and Ntouch Mobile, I think ntouch mobile features toooooo much for any VRS so I rather ntouch mobile than Z4 because Z4 and sprint under same company which is not good while Sorenson do it in the house itself

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09-23-2010, 10:25 PM	#2 (permalink)
ComputerLover Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 484	I agree with this video, he's right... i don't care about zvrs or z4 not support my htc evo..

09-23-2010, 10:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
darkage Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,717	I have seen some VLOG. Few people talked about HTC EVO is not smooth video compare to iPhone 4. They made me think to stay away EVO. Of course, I like EVO but I already know what they said not great review from other people have experience with video phone. I am not disappointed with HTC EVO and mobile VP/ZVRS Little over 2 weeks ago, I talked with ZVRS/CSDVRS customer service. They told me that mobile Z4 still problem with HTC EVO. Easier to work on project with Samsung EPIC. I told them that both are same Android. How come EPIC is easier better than. They told me that both cell phones are not same tech. I watched live video at 2pm. It was little late than 2pm. Finally to see live video online. The guy explained about ipod Touch and ZVRS. Then, I waited for next subject about iphone and Epic but it is off air. That's all news about iPod Touch. I called ZVRS/CSDVRS's customer service. I complained about waste my time at workplace. Few days ago, they send email spread to everyone, "Important mobile videophone announcement from ZVRS this Thursday". They have poor info in email. They suppose to let everyone know what is specific equipment then we will watch or not.

09-24-2010, 06:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
ubuntu Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 181	Another post containing incomplete information. People seriously need to get their facts. ZVRS is not saying "we refuse to make software for the EVO." ZVRS CAN NOT use their current software provider to make the Z4 Mobile on the HTC EVO. Why, you ask? A different VRS company has an exclusivity contract with the software maker to be the SOLE provider of VRS on the HTC EVO using that specific software. So before you go out and bash a company, get your facts. NOTE: I do not have a viewable source of this since it is not public information. I know this because I have very close friends that work for a VRS company. Some that are engineers and some in marketing.

09-24-2010, 06:32 AM	#6 (permalink)
lilbugsb3 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Huntington, West Virginia Posts: 175	Yep, I used to work for ZVRS, that is how THEY doing like that. They like to put a high hope for the deaf then BAM. it is not out or whatever any reasons. I must clap to Sorenson, they do not tell everyone that we're work on it. Sorenson tends to make the final decision to release for any products or whatever. a,d BTW, I will not use mainstream VRS, I think I do not trust them and they did not give more information such as address, whos ceo etc..

09-24-2010, 07:43 AM	#9 (permalink)
darkage Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,717	I agree with ubuntu. I will not agree with computerLover. He/She needs more careful to research what other EVO users have experience with EVO & VP. over 2 weeks ago, I already know what ZVRS's customer service and tech support. Tech person and I talked something on EVO, iphone, ipod touch and EPIC. They did work on software for EVO but can't run as smooth video. All other devices are fine and not much problem. My son still wants to have EVO. I suggest him to take EPIC instead EVO. He is stubborn stay with EVO because they have HDMI interface and bigger screen. He gave me hard time to make him change his mind.

09-26-2010, 08:41 PM	#19 (permalink)
XBGMER Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 4,451	I am neutral.. Mmm.. my cellphone had no FFC feature, but this is very interesting topic!

09-27-2010, 09:16 AM	#21 (permalink)
MacFreak Registered User Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 366	I think they are busy focus on Epic since it working good compared to EVO. That's my gut.

10-30-2010, 02:04 PM	#24 (permalink)
DeafWarrior Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 22 Blog Entries: 1	LMAO!!! I can not help but to see the pattern here. The facts are simply that most of you have fallen under the VRS providers trap and now you are like a drug user looking for your next fix. Once you all realize that ALL VRS PROVIDERS are nothing but businesses you will realize how ignorant you sound. Can you truly state that using the mobile application for whatever cell phone you use is an advantage? One of my friends call me using her phone and I told her to throw it in the garbage, it is not truly practical, it is , like many of the "developments" from all these useless providers, another way to get you routed to their services so they can bill more minutes and generate revenues and profits for them. More retreats in some sunny place with plenty of drinks and bad mouthing the deaf and hoh. No mobile phone will ever be able to compare to the clarity and connectivity of a real VP. Quit bashing the providers (they are all managed by greedy, spineless and hypocritical people) and get on with real life issues.

02-22-2011, 07:42 PM	#29 (permalink)
purplecatty Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Center of the USA Posts: 3,609	To all the first to nearly last posting about ZVRS, It's not ZVRS's fault. I just learned that Mainstream VRS grabbed the contract with Mirial for Miroid software for HTC EVO. Sprint and ZVRS was sooo upset and Mirial apologized for screw ups. Actually ZVRS were planning to have Z4 for EVO but Mainstream VRS refuse to modify and share contract. Finally now, Z4 for EVO!! It have NOTHING to do with video quality. I've tested with MainstreamVRS VP software on my EVO. It works smoothly on 4G or Wifi. It's same software that Z4 have. This is why ZVRS at first decide to go for Sammy Epic cuz it's available and up to grab so ZVRS be the first to grab. Now that I can have Z4 on my EVO!! and expel the MainstreamVRS software!!! Catty