Purple upset FCC says 'NO' - Page 4

Mr. Averythest · 11-02-2009, 11:32 AM

Think the Canadian government will help with something like this?

Seems like to be a great business venture.

BTW - I'm on the look-out for Convo Communications.
I know the owners, so we'll see how it turns out.

qwerty123 · 11-02-2009, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deafaussie

Then why cant we have THAT FEATURE in VP200 allowing us, consumers to use it. It doesn't make sense to me.

wake up slap your face wake up wake up

point to point call aka deaf to deaf call MEANS no revenue!!! zero dollar

why stay in vrs business if all calls are deaf to deaf?

Sorenson smart move have Signmail only for vrs call

Purple dumb arse for videomail

Mr. Averythest · 11-02-2009, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty123

wake up slap your face wake up wake up

point to point call aka deaf to deaf call MEANS no revenue!!! zero dollar

why stay in vrs business if all calls are deaf to deaf?

Sorenson smart move have Signmail only for vrs call

Purple dumb arse for videomail

What did Purple do to you?

zerodog · 11-02-2009, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwerty123

wake up slap your face wake up wake up

point to point call aka deaf to deaf call MEANS no revenue!!! zero dollar

why stay in vrs business if all calls are deaf to deaf?

Sorenson smart move have Signmail only for vrs call

Purple dumb arse for videomail

that kind statement isn't necessary.

You don't get the point about Deaf to Deaf mean something not 'no revenue'. If Sorenson is doing that and they will return Sorenson favor to use their SVRS as well to keep develop as well.

The SignMail that TRS didn't pay for it. Sorenson paid the Video Center or the SignMail and get yourself spank!

qwerty123 · 11-02-2009, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerodog

The SignMail that TRS didn't pay for it. Sorenson paid the Video Center or the SignMail

this reimbursable call from FCC cuz its vrs call

IloveVP · 11-02-2009, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by posts from hell

I skipped all the E-VRS experts and am going to say this:

Directly from the Vlog purple rolled out about their disappointment - they lost a customer here.

They're morons for trying to pull that stunt and even worse so vlogging about it.

What is the E-VRS?

webexplorer · 11-02-2009, 11:42 PM

I am aware that ZVRS is "stealing" SnapVRS's customers by switching the service so that the customers would get a better feature with their newer Ojo.

(I probably won't switch the service.)

(It is just like AT&T is doing the same thing to ask the customers to join their telephone and cable.)

RedWolf · 11-03-2009, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chevy57

I agree you. If all deaf, then VRS provider can provide its own multi-video conference program for its deaf/hoh to use that and no need to use VRS? FCC said no.

Okay...let me clear this...If Sorenson did used conference calls for only team members who worked at Sorenson, then consumers not allowed to use the conference calls just because FCC said no? Geesh not fair at all...

RedWolf · 11-03-2009, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

I am aware that ZVRS is "stealing" SnapVRS's customers by switching the service so that the customers would get a better feature with their newer Ojo.

(I probably won't switch the service.)

(It is just like AT&T is doing the same thing to ask the customers to join their telephone and cable.)

I already switched to ZVRS Ojo because it has better features than Snap does. Also, I don't like the color of orange in the background that Snap has. I like blue better with ZVRS.

souggy · 11-03-2009, 12:38 AM

Wait... how is ZVRS Ojo any different than the original model 3 or 5 years ago?

Mr. Averythest · 11-03-2009, 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IloveVP

What is the E-VRS?

more of... "E-VRS Experts"

People on this thread who claims they know it all on VRS services. There's a lot of misinformation in this thread, so I skipped it all.

RedWolf · 11-03-2009, 01:36 AM

I think we are getting way off topic here. We are talking about Purple not ZVRS.

PowerWCRulez · 11-03-2009, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedWolf

I think we are getting way off topic here. We are talking about Purple not ZVRS.

Yea, I seen a few different off-topics, We're talking about Purple, pls create topic for other stuff!.

Purple have blue background, I like and see better.

qwerty123 · 11-03-2009, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zerodog

The SignMail that TRS didn't pay for it. Sorenson paid the Video Center or the SignMail and get yourself spank!

me point out again

zerodog, fcc/neca pay for true nonmanufactured relay calls.
if hearie call deaf thru vrs and leave message like signmail or videomail, fcc/neca pay the minutes therefore that good revenue for vrs providers

me think not fcc will allow purple has all deaf confrence call
not a true relay call
sorry purple upset

RedWolf · 11-03-2009, 07:17 PM

(I know we are talking about Purple but just until now I just found out new information)
Now, this is interesting....Since FCC said no deaf conference call for Purple....then why ZVRS bringing in new software called "Z4". If you can see this video at 3:45, the guy said you can use 2 or 3 people at the same time which it can be used for conference call.

Now, why ZVRS are allowed to use conference calls but Purple cannot use the conference calls? I think FCC is confused about the rules or something...That is why Purple is requesting clarification about the rules made by FCC.

Here is the video:

YouTube - Videophone Solutions: Z-Ojo, Z-150, Z4

zerodog · 11-03-2009, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedWolf

(I know we are talking about Purple but just until now I just found out new information)
Now, this is interesting....Since FCC said no deaf conference call for Purple....then why ZVRS bringing in new software called "Z4". If you can see this video at 3:45, the guy said you can use 2 or 3 people at the same time which it can be used for conference call.

Now, why ZVRS are allowed to use conference calls but Purple cannot use the conference calls? I think FCC is confused about the rules or something...That is why Purple is requesting clarification about the rules made by FCC.

The ZVRS can do this without have FCC approved this. ZVRS paid that software feature themselves to have 2 or 3 calls at same time.

Meanwhile that Purple is asking FCC to paid the feature such as have more than one caller at same time without interpreter. FCC decline because again and again.

Deaf doesn't need interpreter to Deaf unless it do with CID to person who doesn't understand sign language but home sign or gesture sign. However; no one mention or ask for one.

Again, ZVRS or another VRS have like that kind feature. It is FEATURE that not paid by TRS fund.

Chevy57 · 11-18-2009, 10:29 PM

CSDVRS filed petition on rulemaking that FCC allow external multi-party deaf-to-deaf conference calls to be a compensable form of VRS.

https://portal.neca.org/portal/serve...1117csdvrs.pdf

NAD require multi-party P2P conference calls.

Mr. Averythest · 11-20-2009, 11:48 AM

I personally disagree. Why use taxpayers money to finance deaf2deaf?

It should come from the deaf consumers theirselves. May as well let hearing people have free phone calls as well!!!

qwerty123 · 11-20-2009, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Averythest

I personally disagree. Why use taxpayers money to finance deaf2deaf?

me agree with averythest

now Nathan Chevy57 DeafAssusie why cant you wake up? tell Purple managermemt

Purple downhill real quick

Lighthouse77 · 11-20-2009, 01:24 PM

I think it is important that deaf to deaf conference should be same price as hearing to hearing conference. Deaf people should not have to pay MORE because of their disabilities. They can't help it they can't pick something cheaper because they can't hear. I got sick and tired of paying more money for cellphones for the deaf when hearing people can get their cellphone for cheap. My disability is eating away my budget.

But I don't think it should be free. Now, for deaf to hearing, well we need someone to translate what they are saying.

radioman · 11-20-2009, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lighthouse77

I think it is important that deaf to deaf conference should be same price as hearing to hearing conference. Deaf people should not have to pay MORE because of their disabilities. They can't help it they can't pick something cheaper because they can't hear. I got sick and tired of paying more money for cellphones for the deaf when hearing people can get their cellphone for cheap. My disability is eating away my budget.

But I don't think it should be free. Now, for deaf to hearing, well we need someone to translate what they are saying.

I agree. We should at least be able to get a tax deduction for buying/paying services for the deaf. Look at the blind. They get a lower tax bracket with a little box they can check at the top of 1040 form.

diehardbiker · 11-20-2009, 05:03 PM

Sure they need em for business conference, its really sad that they want to get direct money from FCC where they could use it as tax write off for business expenses instead. This argument is really moot.

I couldn't see how TRS (Telecommunication ***RELAY*** Service) related to multi-Deaf parties conference calls where there is no relay is involved. Check the bold word with 6 asteriks once again.

This is truly embarassement to Deaf community because they are acting like demanding babies who wanted everything for free PLUS more, how do you expect hearing people look at us when we demand too much?

WAKE UP! How many countries on this planet offers free, I mean FREE relay service to Deaf people assisting them bridging communication with Hearing people? I know you can answer this question, so think about it.

I, myself am very grateful that I have the ability to communicate with my hearing parties and want to continue enjoy the services (TRS) whenever I want and need to.

Anyway, I'm back and eating popcorn and drinkin coke and up to you want to continue fighting over and demanding needlessly OR be constructive and work toward bridging communication between Hearing and Deaf and allow Hearing people to be part of it instead of providing freebies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Averythest

I personally disagree. Why use taxpayers money to finance deaf2deaf?

It should come from the deaf consumers theirselves. May as well let hearing people have free phone calls as well!!!

Mr. Averythest · Yesterday, 12:55 PM

For the record, I wrote the FCC my opinion on this.

AND... That little box for the blind... That came from the NFB - National Federation of the Blind. NAD is such a pussy when it comes to these issues.

webexplorer · Yesterday, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker

This is truly embarassement to Deaf community because they are acting like demanding babies who wanted everything for free PLUS more, how do you expect hearing people look at us when we demand too much?

I, myself am very grateful that I have the ability to communicate with my hearing parties and want to continue enjoy the services (TRS) whenever I want and need to.

What do you mean about embarrassing to a deaf community? It is a common that they have three to five regular telephones in their house. Most deafies usually have one videophone. I think that two or three videophones are good enough - first one would be in living room, a 2nd one would be in the office room, and another one is in the basement in case you are working on your project or do the laundry work. Unfortunately, it is required to have a separate number for each videophone - that's really insane.

Surely, we depend on TRS for our jobs and meet our needs. Thanks to many TRS. It is just simple.

diehardbiker · Yesterday, 04:42 PM

Whats this thread is talking about?

Quote:

Originally Posted by webexplorer

What do you mean about embarrassing to a deaf community? It is a common that they have three to five regular telephones in their house. Most deafies usually have one videophone. I think that two or three videophones are good enough - first one would be in living room, a 2nd one would be in the office room, and another one is in the basement in case you are working on your project or do the laundry work. Unfortunately, it is required to have a separate number for each videophone - that's really insane.

Surely, we depend on TRS for our jobs and meet our needs. Thanks to many TRS. It is just simple.

11-02-2009, 11:32 AM	#91 (permalink)
Mr. Averythest apotheosis, paragon of Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,841	Think the Canadian government will help with something like this? Seems like to be a great business venture. BTW - I'm on the look-out for Convo Communications. I know the owners, so we'll see how it turns out. __________________ Bewb patrol here. I'd love to see your bewbs, please send them to me in PM here. Sets of bewbs sent to my pm box: 6 w00t! You guys are awesome! Keep sendin' em in! Itchy groin ASL and Deaf happy hour at Avery Brewery info (January 5th 2010)

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11-18-2009, 10:29 PM	#107 (permalink)
Chevy57 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buckeye State Posts: 5,425	CSDVRS filed petition on rulemaking that FCC allow external multi-party deaf-to-deaf conference calls to be a compensable form of VRS. https://portal.neca.org/portal/serve...1117csdvrs.pdf NAD require multi-party P2P conference calls. __________________

11-20-2009, 11:48 AM	#108 (permalink)
Mr. Averythest apotheosis, paragon of Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,841	I personally disagree. Why use taxpayers money to finance deaf2deaf? It should come from the deaf consumers theirselves. May as well let hearing people have free phone calls as well!!! __________________ Bewb patrol here. I'd love to see your bewbs, please send them to me in PM here. Sets of bewbs sent to my pm box: 6 w00t! You guys are awesome! Keep sendin' em in! Itchy groin ASL and Deaf happy hour at Avery Brewery info (January 5th 2010)

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11-02-2009, 11:42 PM	#97 (permalink)
webexplorer I'm listening to everyone Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New England Posts: 4,504	I am aware that ZVRS is "stealing" SnapVRS's customers by switching the service so that the customers would get a better feature with their newer Ojo. (I probably won't switch the service.) (It is just like AT&T is doing the same thing to ask the customers to join their telephone and cable.)

11-20-2009, 01:24 PM	#110 (permalink)
Lighthouse77 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,321	I think it is important that deaf to deaf conference should be same price as hearing to hearing conference. Deaf people should not have to pay MORE because of their disabilities. They can't help it they can't pick something cheaper because they can't hear. I got sick and tired of paying more money for cellphones for the deaf when hearing people can get their cellphone for cheap. My disability is eating away my budget. But I don't think it should be free. Now, for deaf to hearing, well we need someone to translate what they are saying. __________________ Good thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from.

Yesterday, 12:55 PM	#113 (permalink)
Mr. Averythest apotheosis, paragon of Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,841	For the record, I wrote the FCC my opinion on this. AND... That little box for the blind... That came from the NFB - National Federation of the Blind. NAD is such a pussy when it comes to these issues. __________________ Bewb patrol here. I'd love to see your bewbs, please send them to me in PM here. Sets of bewbs sent to my pm box: 6 w00t! You guys are awesome! Keep sendin' em in! Itchy groin ASL and Deaf happy hour at Avery Brewery info (January 5th 2010)

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