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Old 06-17-2009, 05:56 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Update: FCC Extended Deadline

FCC extended the deadline from June 30, 2009 to November 12, 2009

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People who use video relay service (VRS) or Internet Protocol relay (IP Relay) must have real 10-digit local phone numbers – by November 12, 2009 – to make non-emergency calls.
The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) extended the deadline (previously set for June 30, 2009) to give people more time to get their 10-digit local phone numbers.
Fake or “proxy” videophone (VP) numbers cannot be used after November 12, 2009.
VRS and IP Relay calls will not be connected without a real 10-digit local number after November 12, 2009.
Emergency 911 calls – without a 10-digit number – cannot be connected automatically (but will be connected as quickly as possible) to the nearest 911 emergency service center.
Benefits of 10-digit local phone numbers:
Your 911 emergency call can be sent automatically to the 911 emergency center that serves the location associated with your 10-digit number;Telephone users can dial your 10-digit number and be connected automatically to you through your VRS or IP Relay provider; andYou can connect with other VRS or IP Relay users by dialing a 10-digit number.The National Association of the Deaf (NAD) urges all VP, VRS, and IP Relay users to contact a VRS or IP Relay provider to get your 10-digit local phone number today.
For more information, please see the FCC factsheets and American Sign Language (ASL) videos available at Telecommunications Relay Services.

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Old 06-17-2009, 08:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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How does Sorenson sucks? I don't see any word about Sorenson in paragraph.
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:49 AM   #3 (permalink)
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How does Sorenson sucks? I don't see any word about Sorenson in paragraph.
They make delay because lots of Sorenson users do not get new 10-digital numbers yet. Waste time
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FUCK YOU FCC. Why all the fucking delay, just move forward.
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Old 06-17-2009, 10:09 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Because FCC is a delay eating commission and we can't do anything. They postponed 3 or 4 times with the analog over the air shutdown and now it's finally shut down.
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FCC extended the deadline from June 30, 2009 to November 12, 2009
Where did your word quote "Sorenson sucks" go?
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Where did your word quote "Sorenson sucks" go?
I m sorry to make mistake. i had edited it. LOL

Sorenson still cried and asked for making delay. BS!
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They make delay because lots of Sorenson users do not get new 10-digital numbers yet. Waste time
How? I don't buy your story since Sorenson does alert anyone to get 10 digit number, even I got email from them about 10 digit phone number as well.

It was FCC decision, not Sorenson.
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Someone is just trying to find excuses to make Sorenson look bad cuz he works for Purple, so I ain't surprised.
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Someone is just trying to find excuses to make Sorenson look bad cuz he works for Purple, so I ain't surprised.
Yup, that's true, man.
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I ain't susprise either. Does my excuses count since I work for Purple?
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Old 06-18-2009, 12:17 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Well it more information... it not just base on Sorenson fault. It say include Purple too. So mean that Purple did actually ask for delay in order for you guy ensure that Customer is attraction and say, I love it!

Meanwhile there are two that I think those service are top overall... It Sorenson and Viable...

Now narrow to the FCC issue...

Even I post about FCC... it include from VRSCA about the FCC.

What I found interesting those VRS sound concerned expect the Purple doesn't explain...

VRSCA
The Federal Communications Commission (FCC) May Take Action That Will Hurt VRS - Latest News - VRSCA


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..... where the website that explain about FCC....


Beside you point to Sorenson that cause delay? No... can't you figure how many people who current us Sorenson product, I know some of you use Sorenson and even you still have Purple. Beside that... some Purple team didn't like the MVP that much... due the quality video issue is primary to us. Anyway... so my point the way you point point point point to Sorenson. Don't forget that Sorenson have spend money for us to get VP200 then final SNAP and then Viable and so on the VRS have grow that FCC's purpose do that but now its shake from tree out the VRS's product and think that wasteful to them while Deaf community felt that needed!
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FCC extended the deadline from June 30, 2009 to November 12, 2009
wtf?! Right now, yo and Qwerty need to find the place anywhere that y'all can against each other, tho!! I love Sorenson and Purple!!! Lame on yo (0.o)
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zerodog is right. All of the VRS is deeply concerned about the rate that was about to be cut. But, as for the delay, I think the letter to Sorenson is speaking on behalf of all of VRS including Purple, Viable, and SnapVRS; asking for delay that they wanted to ensure that everyone get their 10 digit-numbers handy. I am sure that all VRS is concerned and there are many more people that still need 10 digit numbers. Another reason that VRS is concerned about is the rate will be cut. FCC is the one made the decision and they listened to VRS about the 10 digit numbers.

I wasn't too happy about the delay but we have to accept the decision made by FCC. I noticed many other did explained about the FCC but one VRS did not do is Purple. Where is the message from Purple?? Why didn't they inform us?? No clue but maybe Purple is up to something and maybe disagreed with FCC ruling? What Purple is doing??? When Purple update MVP? When, when, when Purple??? All they say is, "Soon." Soon?? Gosh, I hate this darn word "soon" already...geesh...

Oh, when Sorenson will update the VP200? They haven't update VP200 in longgggggggggg time. Get moving Sorenson!! UPDATE!!!!! Another "soon"? geesh.....
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Go hovrs !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hovrs isn't any more. It's called Purple Communication, Inc.

So, just said Go Purple-o!

Otherwise, it's Obama's fault for not pay attention, and leave someone to take care of it. bwhaha

Oh yeah, it's during bad economy, govt want to save some $$$ for themselves, who know? I understand interpreter are frickin expensive and they're become greedy without know deaf culture but want money, too.
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zerodog is right. All of the VRS is deeply concerned about the rate that was about to be cut. But, as for the delay, I think the letter to Sorenson is speaking on behalf of all of VRS including Purple, Viable, and SnapVRS; asking for delay that they wanted to ensure that everyone get their 10 digit-numbers handy. I am sure that all VRS is concerned and there are many more people that still need 10 digit numbers. Another reason that VRS is concerned about is the rate will be cut. FCC is the one made the decision and they listened to VRS about the 10 digit numbers.

I wasn't too happy about the delay but we have to accept the decision made by FCC. I noticed many other did explained about the FCC but one VRS did not do is Purple. Where is the message from Purple?? Why didn't they inform us?? No clue but maybe Purple is up to something and maybe disagreed with FCC ruling? What Purple is doing??? When Purple update MVP? When, when, when Purple??? All they say is, "Soon." Soon?? Gosh, I hate this darn word "soon" already...geesh...

Oh, when Sorenson will update the VP200? They haven't update VP200 in longgggggggggg time. Get moving Sorenson!! UPDATE!!!!! Another "soon"? geesh.....

What do you mean update the VP200? I have all digit numbers a ready..


About Purple, we want hear from Purple's concerns what could have impact too? So far, about the delay. Purple is also Goamerica, it has statement all VRS on listing.


... believe it or.not...

person doesn't want the real number, prefer the fake number due police or government can't find where they are.

I told that person, what about e911. Person think phone line is good enough... It example that VRS felt that many Deaf people in communty all around USA may have misunderstanding. I am not speak about you, just want be clarify if I say something

It parts... that VRSCA need research face to face around Deaf people. Like ask them,

' do you understand what FCC has statement about real number as VRS provide say about 10 digits number repeat?'

'do you know how E911 from videophone equipment (clarify not just VP200)'

and stuff that show standard failure of educational that blame school for not provide enough. So it would good benefit to push for public school to start explain how to use 911 when they are kid. Remember if your teacher asked you what is your home address, what is your phone number and how do you call 911? Same thing VRSCA is doing this right now...

However, VRSCA need more people to volunteer about FCC and their rights and what happen in future and stuff where they can review with FCC website instead blame with our point finger to VRS.
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DAMN! Why delay the deadline 3 times?! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! What a retard that FCC or whoever wants to delay the deadline is DUMBASS! I can't stand FCC GEEZ!
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AND also my friend had to 'borrow' 940 instead of 903 because the 903 Area code is out. So she have no choice but to use 940 instead. Since I heard or not know if it's true or not that Sorenson is getting powerful and won most of cases that other VRS sue Sorenson. Also I heard that Sorenson complain over stupid issues. I think that Sorenson need to BACK OFF and leave other VRS alone. I also heard that Sorenson have 'Lobbist' with U.S. Congresses which is 'against' Federal Law which Obamaizes order it to HALT. No wonder one of my friends used to work for Sorenson but quit and never look back. =)
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DAMN! Why delay the deadline 3 times?! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! What a retard that FCC or whoever wants to delay the deadline is DUMBASS! I can't stand FCC GEEZ!
If you can't stand what FCC is doing, want start pay monthly to use VRS service?

How many people do you met person who understand how that VRS benefit to them and what VRS is try to provide them.

Speaking about Sorenson as powerful, its not true but the large numbers, Yes it true. Your friend who quit and not look behind back because that friend can't handle that issue or to improve expecting. Look at that where your friend standing right now.

I don't let that Sorenson or any VRS stand me back off.
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What do you mean update the VP200? I have all digit numbers a ready..


About Purple, we want hear from Purple's concerns what could have impact too? So far, about the delay. Purple is also Goamerica, it has statement all VRS on listing.


... believe it or.not...

person doesn't want the real number, prefer the fake number due police or government can't find where they are.

I told that person, what about e911. Person think phone line is good enough... It example that VRS felt that many Deaf people in communty all around USA may have misunderstanding. I am not speak about you, just want be clarify if I say something

It parts... that VRSCA need research face to face around Deaf people. Like ask them,

' do you understand what FCC has statement about real number as VRS provide say about 10 digits number repeat?'

'do you know how E911 from videophone equipment (clarify not just VP200)'

and stuff that show standard failure of educational that blame school for not provide enough. So it would good benefit to push for public school to start explain how to use 911 when they are kid. Remember if your teacher asked you what is your home address, what is your phone number and how do you call 911? Same thing VRSCA is doing this right now...

However, VRSCA need more people to volunteer about FCC and their rights and what happen in future and stuff where they can review with FCC website instead blame with our point finger to VRS.
Dude, what about this issue when someone calls via VP200 to a MVP, and Sorenson can not see the PurpleMail if someone didnt answer the phone? That's another issue sorenson needs to fix.
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If you can't stand what FCC is doing, want start pay monthly to use VRS service?

How many people do you met person who understand how that VRS benefit to them and what VRS is try to provide them.

Speaking about Sorenson as powerful, its not true but the large numbers, Yes it true. Your friend who quit and not look behind back because that friend can't handle that issue or to improve expecting. Look at that where your friend standing right now.

I don't let that Sorenson or any VRS stand me back off.
Well one who quit Sorenson VRS told me that he quit Sorenson because they are full of politics. So yes that is true that Sorenson is powerful company. He is happy working with other VRS. The matter of fact is that Sorenson forbid any of their interpreters whose quit Sorenson from work for other VRS within one year AFTER they quit or wrongful terminate.

But I believe that Sorenson pay good wages for installer and Technical Support even for Interpreter. Sorenson Communication owned by the Medical Corporation that create equipments for Medical needs.
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I find interesting that FCC have broke the contract after make agree by about year ago to not cut the fund on VRS until the new admin of FCC decide to break and cut. Possible end VRS business.

We will see many interpreter and installer lose their job. Or even say good bye to the benefit or express on gas mileage.

Maybe we will see VRS tell us to pay monthly without loss.
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I find interesting that FCC have broke the contract after make agree by about year ago to not cut the fund on VRS until the new admin of FCC decide to break and cut. Possible end VRS business.

We will see many interpreter and installer lose their job. Or even say good bye to the benefit or express on gas mileage.

Maybe we will see VRS tell us to pay monthly without loss.
How so? FCC is one of the wealthest company in the world.
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How so? FCC is one of the wealthest company in the world.
are you the bank teller that you can look at FCC account number? If yes, I bet it 0.00 that they couldn't afford VRS? heh

I wonder how much money they have in their jar
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I find interesting that FCC have broke the contract after make agree by about year ago to not cut the fund on VRS until the new admin of FCC decide to break and cut. Possible end VRS business.

We will see many interpreter and installer lose their job. Or even say good bye to the benefit or express on gas mileage.

Maybe we will see VRS tell us to pay monthly without loss.
It was congress that's responsible to funds on FCC.
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WTF? FCC is part of government and it's really not wealthiest company.
I think Foxrac should say Sorenson is the wealthiest VRS provider company instead, probably.

FCC... no way since it's not a company like you said!
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Ok i signed up for this, i wanted to express the thoughts and opinions on Sorenson and Purple.

FCC is delaying the deadline due to many phone providers (ATT, Verizon, Tmobile, Comcast, etc) including those VRS providers. I read the FCC requirmenets it is open to all phone companies who are required to have portability number so that way they can transfer, from Sorenson to Purple using the same number. So many of them are asking for the postponement so Sorenson is not the only one out there. There are many are screaming for help porting and etc. I also read that FCC wants them to meet customers' need to port from one company to other in a day instead of more than 2 days. That is one of the difficult situation where companies will have to shell out the money to hire more employees in order to meet FCC's requirement to port over in a day.


Sorenson already followed FCC's requirements to have e911 and real number ready for people to obtain. Also to port over to different Providers that i've seen on youtube where they ported one customer and losing all features because that customer wants other VRS provider to be the default provider.

My understanding that Purple did not have them ready so they were the one who asked for the postponement due to their e911/porting/number incompatibility. Also the MVP log in screen is one of the bad idea to do because what if they need to dial 911 and have to log into the MVP in order to call 911. Also for that person who stated VP200 to MVP, it sounds like it is a 3rd party provider problem with the number that is not currently communicating with the MVP from the VP200. I know for a fact that you would need to call using the local number instead of the DirectVP number since the local numbers are registered via an 3rd party where all providers have access to call thru the local numbers in order to connect to one other.

They were running out of money so they decided to buy the netbooks in order to sell. They bought it 139.99 per unit and sell it for more to make a profit in order to update their MVP issues and order more MVP units. I have a friend who told me that Dell and Purple are in legal trouble due to the making profit and de-branding Dell's name on the laptop in order to advertise Purple brand on the laptop. So people, please hear the facts before you assume then type. Sorenson is following every requirements from FCC that gave all the VRS providers to do so.

I like the MVP for its wireless purpose but for the video quality that needs to be fixed on their end. A lot of people are using SVRS.TV on MVP to call Sorenson interpreters because their video quality is clean and crisp while calling Purple interpreters, the quality is not that great. I think this is funny since Purple has been using their hovrs.tv on most VP100/VP200, karma strikes back and it hurts to have SVRS.TV onto their MVP which is hilarious.

As for Sorenson installers/trainers, they are doing their job beautifully because they are highly trained to troubleshoot and fix it the right way. I've noticed some customers who has MVP and VP200 installed, most of them went back to using VP200 because the quality is great and has so much features to use while the MVP is not really great at being deaf-friendly where you will have to hold one hand then use the other to sign if you are walking. But it is nice to have a stand to talk with both. I think they are doing a good job with those features for the installers/trainers to learn and use their skills with the customers being "wowed".

So please do not bash all companies, they are working on the features in order to follow FCC's requirements. I know Purple and Sorenson are working their butts off in order to meet FCC's requirements.
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No No... That is very very old news. The investment company from Chicago owns Sorenson. Way back in 2005 or 2006.
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