Ip-relay on Sidekick

TheXandieBoy · 01-02-2004, 11:38 AM

Go to http://globalrelay.mci.com/wireless.htm

***VamPyroX*** · 01-02-2004, 03:10 PM

Whoa... this could really put those mini-TTYs out of business! I think this is neat!

Dennis · 01-02-2004, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Whoa... this could really put those mini-TTYs out of business! I think this is neat!

Doesn't this only help whenever someone wants to talk to a hearing person, though? May there still be a strong need for TTY's for deaf to deaf communication?

What PDA phones really need is the ability to emulate a TTY, not needing an external plugin or be "TTY compatible."

***VamPyroX*** · 01-02-2004, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis

Doesn't this only help whenever someone wants to talk to a hearing person, though? May there still be a strong need for TTY's for deaf to deaf communication?

What PDA phones really need is the ability to emulate a TTY, not needing an external plugin or be "TTY compatible."

Well, phones are becoming obsolute. People depend on pagers now. It's very likely that another person will have a pager... especially a Sidekick pager. In that case, what's the point of having a TTY & TTY on both ends? Trust me... phones are becoming obsolute. I read that cell phones are starting to outnumber home phones. Also, more and more cell phones come with text messaging so the need to communicate with a deaf person is becoming less troublesome.

Dennis · 01-03-2004, 08:22 AM

What's your source of information that Hard of Hearing cellular phone/pager/2-way users are starting to even come close to the number the landline users with TTY's?

Hearing people now have fewer reasons to actually have a landline, this is true; with wireless number portability, the increase in cell phone towers and access areas in the world, and plans that allow free mobile-to-mobile calls are excellent reasons to get rid of that pesky wall phone.

Deaf to hearing service (and vice versa) is getting better and better, with relay services being able to be accessed without TTY's or Instant Messenger. Indeed, it is great to be a hearing person with deaf friends now!

I contend that the 28 million hard of hearing people in the U.S. (http://www.goamerica.com/company_info/) still cannot fully benefit from a cell phone. Text messaging has only recently become "popular" and instant messaging is not available on most phones in all areas of the U.S.

If I can ever find Wyndtell's subscriber numbers (2 years ago they had 100,000 subscribers) then we can have a better idea just how many people really believe "the phone is obsolete." and what the real chances are of your friends having a pager of any sort.

rushabh · 01-04-2004, 10:31 PM

Is this instant TTY like what you get on Java TTY?

Also is Sidekick a pager that can receive pages?

I would be using it exclusively for calling hearing people. Thanks.

Kai Onca · 01-06-2004, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis

What's your source of information that Hard of Hearing cellular phone/pager/2-way users are starting to even come close to the number the landline users with TTY's?

Hearing people now have fewer reasons to actually have a landline, this is true; with wireless number portability, the increase in cell phone towers and access areas in the world, and plans that allow free mobile-to-mobile calls are excellent reasons to get rid of that pesky wall phone.

Deaf to hearing service (and vice versa) is getting better and better, with relay services being able to be accessed without TTY's or Instant Messenger. Indeed, it is great to be a hearing person with deaf friends now!

I contend that the 28 million hard of hearing people in the U.S. (http://www.goamerica.com/company_info/) still cannot fully benefit from a cell phone. Text messaging has only recently become "popular" and instant messaging is not available on most phones in all areas of the U.S.

If I can ever find Wyndtell's subscriber numbers (2 years ago they had 100,000 subscribers) then we can have a better idea just how many people really believe "the phone is obsolete." and what the real chances are of your friends having a pager of any sort.

actually- vampyro is right.. even the government is encouraging people to use SMS beacuse its more merely convient and does not take up the airwaves or something related to that-

in a case of terrorist attack, when the communication lines are cut the pirority would go to the government officals using the cell phone waves and the civvies can use the SMS to communicate with one other....

DeafSCUBA98 · 01-06-2004, 01:53 AM

well cell phones can inference the techology.. in hosiptals it inference the monitor system.. and other high tech in hosiptals, airport, security system..

that's the reason hosiptal banned cell phone inside the building cuz the air waves interference the heart monitor systems and other high techs.

and.. saddly but true.. some people have this techology.. is capture the other person's cell phone air waves and listen to their conservation.. and be nosy what they're talking about..

cricket- i agree with you about the terriost issue.. but one problem.. in case the satelite system crashed or exploded.. then people can't use cell phone at all.. till they fix the satelite system or orbiter in space..

this had happened last year.. ten of thousand people can't use cellphone for serveral days..
also could u explain to me what's SMS?

Mizzou · 01-06-2004, 10:54 AM

will it work with that link www.relaycall.com ??

Kai Onca · 01-06-2004, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeafSCUBA98

well cell phones can inference the techology.. in hosiptals it inference the monitor system.. and other high tech in hosiptals, airport, security system..

that's the reason hosiptal banned cell phone inside the building cuz the air waves interference the heart monitor systems and other high techs.

and.. saddly but true.. some people have this techology.. is capture the other person's cell phone air waves and listen to their conservation.. and be nosy what they're talking about..

cricket- i agree with you about the terriost issue.. but one problem.. in case the satelite system crashed or exploded.. then people can't use cell phone at all.. till they fix the satelite system or orbiter in space..

this had happened last year.. ten of thousand people can't use cellphone for serveral days..
also could u explain to me what's SMS?

SMS - Short Message Service: available on digital GSM networks allowing text messages of up to 160 characters to be sent and received via the network operator's message center to your mobile phone, or from the Internet, using a so-called "SMS gateway" website. If the phone is powered off or out of range, messages are stored in the network and are delivered at the next opportunity-

illustrator · 01-06-2004, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Whoa... this could really put those mini-TTYs out of business! I think this is neat!

hold your horse, how will we answer the incoming call on sidekick? That's biggest problem!

illustrator · 01-06-2004, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VamPyroX

Well, phones are becoming obsolute. People depend on pagers now. It's very likely that another person will have a pager... especially a Sidekick pager. In that case, what's the point of having a TTY & TTY on both ends? Trust me... phones are becoming obsolute. I read that cell phones are starting to outnumber home phones. Also, more and more cell phones come with text messaging so the need to communicate with a deaf person is becoming less troublesome.

you may be right, but there are many bad solution happen with text message. Depend which company to use. it would delay from 1 minutes to a hour or 2 hours to received from different company to different company. That's major problem.

illustrator · 01-06-2004, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cricket

SMS - Short Message Service: available on digital GSM networks allowing text messages of up to 160 characters to be sent and received via the network operator's message center to your mobile phone, or from the Internet, using a so-called "SMS gateway" website. If the phone is powered off or out of range, messages are stored in the network and are delivered at the next opportunity-

Actually, SMS stand for Short Message Sent.

Kai Onca · 01-07-2004, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by illustrator

Actually, SMS stand for Short Message Sent.

no its short message service, i'm pretty sure anyone else help us out with this disagreement?

my definition for SMS was from www.hyperdictionary.com

ideafspy · 01-07-2004, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rushabh

Is this instant TTY like what you get on Java TTY?

Also is Sidekick a pager that can receive pages?

I would be using it exclusively for calling hearing people. Thanks.

It not a JAVA or anything. Its Sidekick type of format software. It will download from wireless that provided for sidekick. You will need to see for yourself but they are not ready. I hope its coming out soon.

Guy, do you agree that provide free long distance and etc? I disagree because it need to made profit to able improve for tty communicate on that sidekick or anything that be worked.

illustrator · 01-08-2004, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cricket

no its short message service, i'm pretty sure anyone else help us out with this disagreement?

my definition for SMS was from www.hyperdictionary.com

AT&T, http://mobile.yahoo.com and Cingular said SMS stand for Short Message Sent.

Take a look by yourself.

Kai Onca · 01-09-2004, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illustrator

AT&T, http://mobile.yahoo.com and Cingular said SMS stand for Short Message Sent.

Take a look by yourself.

http://sms.mobile.yahoo.com/sms/sendsms.php?mcb=

What is SMS?
SMS stands for short message service, a convenient way to send brief text messages directly to a friend's wireless telephone. A SMS message has a maximum length of 140 characters, or about 20 words. SMS is a convenient way to keep in touch with friends and family!

mmmm and i dont think its Short message SENT...

I think it COULD be short message SYSTEM

illustrator · 01-09-2004, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cricket

http://sms.mobile.yahoo.com/sms/sendsms.php?mcb=

What is SMS?
SMS stands for short message service, a convenient way to send brief text messages directly to a friend's wireless telephone. A SMS message has a maximum length of 140 characters, or about 20 words. SMS is a convenient way to keep in touch with friends and family!

mmmm and i dont think its Short message SENT...

I think it COULD be short message SYSTEM

I am dead meat.

Josta · 01-20-2004, 10:52 AM

After a few emails back and forth with TMobile, I was just informed that IP-RELAY is not yet supported for Sidekick, that it is still in the "development stages" and that it has not yet been released.

BUMMER! Any other relay services that we can use with Sidekick?

John

J-SIN · 01-20-2004, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cricket

http://sms.mobile.yahoo.com/sms/sendsms.php?mcb=

What is SMS?
SMS stands for short message service, a convenient way to send brief text messages directly to a friend's wireless telephone. A SMS message has a maximum length of 140 characters, or about 20 words. SMS is a convenient way to keep in touch with friends and family!

mmmm and i dont think its Short message SENT...

I think it COULD be short message SYSTEM

actually its 160 characters.

nozobo · 01-23-2004, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josta

After a few emails back and forth with TMobile, I was just informed that IP-RELAY is not yet supported for Sidekick, that it is still in the "development stages" and that it has not yet been released.

BUMMER! Any other relay services that we can use with Sidekick?

John

I don't know about IP-relay but there is a relay for Sidekick... check www.fusewireless.com

I'm gonna order that within few days after researching on what companies will provide for sidekick and service and rebates and all of that shit...

gnarlydorkette · 01-23-2004, 05:46 PM

WTF, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT... ARGH! I hate SIDEKICK ALREADY [throwing her brand new Sidekick]

Josta · 01-23-2004, 07:30 PM

I've since learned that http://www.lormarlogic.com has a link to a free relay service using the AIM feature on our Sidekick. If you WANT TTY capabilities it is $5 or so a month. I've used them once before and it works well.

Also would like to know in what way do you find it the best way to carry the SK? I have their leather case but can't always pick up the vibrations too well.

John

nozobo · 01-25-2004, 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnarlydorkette

WTF, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT... ARGH! I hate SIDEKICK ALREADY [throwing her brand new Sidekick]

you know nowadays the technology are improving and as the same time there's a price you gotta pay... everything isn't free...

dbarovian · 03-08-2004, 09:12 PM

Good news for all SK users!
There will not see any IP Relay icon in the catalog but we able to use terminial icon to use IP relay as hosting which fastest than AIM relay!!!!

Now try to follow the instruction:

Go to catalog and select application then ALL

Select Terminial and purchase it and install!

When it is installed, you will see a small icon that looks like computer. Then open it and follow the name and host number.

Name: IP-Relay

Host: 199.249.21.66:2510

Protocol: RAW

Then it will normal as TTY to Relay! Good luck to all!

Christo · 03-08-2004, 09:42 PM

I wondering why my friend got ip-relay upgraded to his pager but why didnt I get it? why my friend got it first place? :?:

01-02-2004, 11:38 AM	#1 (permalink)
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DeafSCUBA98 my cute fish of the year! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: land of 10,000 lakes and living by one of them Posts: 4,627	well cell phones can inference the techology.. in hosiptals it inference the monitor system.. and other high tech in hosiptals, airport, security system.. that's the reason hosiptal banned cell phone inside the building cuz the air waves interference the heart monitor systems and other high techs. and.. saddly but true.. some people have this techology.. is capture the other person's cell phone air waves and listen to their conservation.. and be nosy what they're talking about.. cricket- i agree with you about the terriost issue.. but one problem.. in case the satelite system crashed or exploded.. then people can't use cell phone at all.. till they fix the satelite system or orbiter in space.. this had happened last year.. ten of thousand people can't use cellphone for serveral days.. also could u explain to me what's SMS? __________________ Nucleus Freedom 04/18/05 activiated 05/16/05

01-20-2004, 10:52 AM	#19 (permalink)
Josta Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Big Bear & Palm Springs, California Posts: 7	Ip-relay Is Not Available For Sidekick!!! After a few emails back and forth with TMobile, I was just informed that IP-RELAY is not yet supported for Sidekick, that it is still in the "development stages" and that it has not yet been released. BUMMER! Any other relay services that we can use with Sidekick? John

03-08-2004, 09:12 PM	#25 (permalink)
dbarovian Favorite SUV Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 672	Hey it is working now for IP Relay!!! Good news for all SK users! There will not see any IP Relay icon in the catalog but we able to use terminial icon to use IP relay as hosting which fastest than AIM relay!!!! Now try to follow the instruction: Go to catalog and select application then ALL Select Terminial and purchase it and install! When it is installed, you will see a small icon that looks like computer. Then open it and follow the name and host number. Name: IP-Relay Host: 199.249.21.66:2510 Protocol: RAW Then it will normal as TTY to Relay! Good luck to all!

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01-03-2004, 08:22 AM	#5 (permalink)
Dennis \/ It's a computer patch. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Death Star HQ Posts: 1,733	What's your source of information that Hard of Hearing cellular phone/pager/2-way users are starting to even come close to the number the landline users with TTY's? Hearing people now have fewer reasons to actually have a landline, this is true; with wireless number portability, the increase in cell phone towers and access areas in the world, and plans that allow free mobile-to-mobile calls are excellent reasons to get rid of that pesky wall phone. Deaf to hearing service (and vice versa) is getting better and better, with relay services being able to be accessed without TTY's or Instant Messenger. Indeed, it is great to be a hearing person with deaf friends now! I contend that the 28 million hard of hearing people in the U.S. (http://www.goamerica.com/company_info/) still cannot fully benefit from a cell phone. Text messaging has only recently become "popular" and instant messaging is not available on most phones in all areas of the U.S. If I can ever find Wyndtell's subscriber numbers (2 years ago they had 100,000 subscribers) then we can have a better idea just how many people really believe "the phone is obsolete." and what the real chances are of your friends having a pager of any sort.

01-04-2004, 10:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
rushabh Registered User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 45	Is this instant TTY like what you get on Java TTY? Also is Sidekick a pager that can receive pages? I would be using it exclusively for calling hearing people. Thanks.

01-06-2004, 10:54 AM	#9 (permalink)
Mizzou Where is my car ? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: somewhere in Missouri Posts: 2,574	will it work with that link www.relaycall.com ??

01-23-2004, 05:46 PM	#22 (permalink)
gnarlydorkette is leaving for good. Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Sunny Diego in Califunny Posts: 1,764	WTF, YOU HAVE TO PAY FOR IT... ARGH! I hate SIDEKICK ALREADY [throwing her brand new Sidekick]

01-23-2004, 07:30 PM	#23 (permalink)
Josta Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Big Bear & Palm Springs, California Posts: 7	I've since learned that http://www.lormarlogic.com has a link to a free relay service using the AIM feature on our Sidekick. If you WANT TTY capabilities it is $5 or so a month. I've used them once before and it works well. Also would like to know in what way do you find it the best way to carry the SK? I have their leather case but can't always pick up the vibrations too well. John

03-08-2004, 09:42 PM	#26 (permalink)
Christo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Hoosier Pride Posts: 476	I wondering why my friend got ip-relay upgraded to his pager but why didnt I get it? why my friend got it first place? :?: