FCC's not allowing Canadian to use VRS.

Chevy57 · 10-27-2008, 10:22 PM

Any Video Relay Service Company will not provide to Deaf Canadian people anymore this week. Sad News for Deaf Canadian people.

Banjo, what are you doing about it?

***Brian*** · 10-27-2008, 10:48 PM

If this is for real, then deaf people in the United Kingdom, Australia, etc., are affected by this?

JClarke · 10-27-2008, 10:57 PM

Yes, Brian, unfortunately. Unless, I hope that Viable can still let the aussies use their server to use the device to call the other people in australian soils, but we do not need their VRS services. Lets hope it is NOT too bad to be affected by us. If it is way beyond than we think, we'll have to protest FCC.

Tousi · 10-27-2008, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob

Yes, Brian, unfortunately. Unless, I hope that Viable can still let the aussies use their server to use the device to call the other people in australian soils, but we do not need their VRS services. Lets hope it is NOT too bad to be affected by us. If it is way beyond than we think, we'll have to protest FCC.

That will not happen the way you suggest.

Banjo · 10-27-2008, 11:36 PM

The problem is, VRS is funded by American taxpayers' money. So yes, it will be intended for Americans' uses only.

PowerON · 10-27-2008, 11:50 PM

I believe it's right thing because I would hate to see other countries are use US's money on service for nothing but lose to wrong "customer from region".

Other country need to do their own money for disability people. Shame on them.

***Brian*** · 10-28-2008, 12:38 AM

Perhaps the deaf in the United Kingdom, Australia, etc, etc., could try to convince their federal regulators (similar to our FCC) to fund such for the deaf community. But I don't see how the federal regulators would be willing to fund for international calls from their countries. Sorenson and other VP providers could try entering international markets. Didn't Sorenson and other VP providers make VPs made available for the deaf attendants at the uh....Deaflympics event in Melbourne (VIC.)?

Royale · 10-28-2008, 09:53 AM

I am sorry to tell you that the guy in vlog is misinformed or misunderstood.

Canadians are allowed to call the VRS providers as long as they plan to contact their relatives, customer services and companies in the U.S. I am very familiar with the VRS issues in Canada and that is why I have seen some Deaf Canadians got misinformed about the VRS.

PowerON · 10-28-2008, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Perhaps the deaf in the United Kingdom, Australia, etc, etc., could try to convince their federal regulators (similar to our FCC) to fund such for the deaf community. But I don't see how the federal regulators would be willing to fund for international calls from their countries. Sorenson and other VP providers could try entering international markets. Didn't Sorenson and other VP providers make VPs made available for the deaf attendants at the uh....Deaflympics event in Melbourne (VIC.)?

DENIED! Actual, it's only a sponsor as several VP support US players would able to get their fund by coming to Australia.

I have know when I asked question with HOVRS and Sorenson installer saying they cannot install for outside country because it's US's fund period.

Royale · 10-28-2008, 10:32 PM

Tonight I made two VP calls to two different VRS providers and I had no problems.

qwerty123 · 10-28-2008, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royale

Tonight I made two VP calls to two different VRS providers and I had no problems.

Chevy57 take class on VRS Basic 101

***Brian*** · 10-29-2008, 01:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

DENIED! Actual, it's only a sponsor as several VP support US players would able to get their fund by coming to Australia.

I have know when I asked question with HOVRS and Sorenson installer saying they cannot install for outside country because it's US's fund period.

I understand now - thanks for clearing this.

Nathan · 10-29-2008, 11:05 AM

I'm outside the USA, and I still have no problem making VRS calls to anywhere. I'm from P.R.

PowerON · 10-29-2008, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

I'm outside the USA, and I still have no problem making VRS calls to anywhere. I'm from PR.

PR is under US. I know three deaf work for HOVRS (or not) in there

Nathan · 10-30-2008, 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

P.R is under US. I know three deaf work for HOVRS (or not) in there

Edited.

PowerON · 10-30-2008, 09:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

Edited.

I didn't edit. I puzzle as message disappear into "PR". Weird...
At least, you save that original message. Thank you! But princess is in other castle.

Nathan · 10-30-2008, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

I didn't edit. I puzzle as message disappear into "PR". Weird...
At least, you save that original message. Thank you! But princess is in other castle.

Uh...I edited it for you for it be viewed when typing P with R together make the message disappear.

PowerON · 10-30-2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nathan

Uh...I edited it for you for it be viewed when typing P with R together make the message disappear.

eh? Did you edit my post?

Nathan · 10-30-2008, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PowerON

eh? Did you edit my post?

Heh, not really, I made it viewable.

GuySmoke420 · 11-06-2008, 07:26 PM

FCC is USA GOVERMENT BASE ONLY

zerodog · 12-04-2008, 04:27 AM

I was wonder if Canadian have their own term for ADA or FCC from USA.

I wonder do you have their FCC mention about the TRS or relay for TTY that do with disability? If you do, then use that case because our FCC base on Section 225

JClarke · 12-04-2008, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

Perhaps the deaf in the United Kingdom, Australia, etc, etc., could try to convince their federal regulators (similar to our FCC) to fund such for the deaf community. But I don't see how the federal regulators would be willing to fund for international calls from their countries. Sorenson and other VP providers could try entering international markets. Didn't Sorenson and other VP providers make VPs made available for the deaf attendants at the uh....Deaflympics event in Melbourne (VIC.)?

I was in Melbourne for the deaflympics and I didnt see any videophones around there since the interent was not fast enough back then. Some of the people uses sidekicks, and other phones that have videocalls, I have seen one man from norway who uses it.

By the way, our FCC's is ACMA (Australian Communication and Media Authority)

Chevy57 · 12-04-2008, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JClarke

I was in Melbourne for the deaflympics and I didnt see any videophones around there since the interent was not fast enough back then. Some of the people uses sidekicks, and other phones that have videocalls, I have seen one man from norway who uses it.

By the way, our FCC's is ACMA (Australian Communication and Media Authority)

Video call charge is too costly for minutes. I really want WiMAX access and no charge for minutes in using video callings.

radioman · 12-04-2008, 08:00 PM

I dont think FCC will cut international calls completely. If VRS does stop making calls from USA to cananda, I wouldnt be surprised. I would think is a bold move on the major VRS's part just to force Canadain goverment to start thinking about funding VRS's for the deaf for thier own people. I hope to god they do though.

missywinks · 12-05-2008, 01:38 AM

well, there was an announcement saying that vrs wouldn't provide services outside of usa as early as this or next week. this makes sense because fcc is usa-based and each american has to pay certain amount (cents?) towards their phone bill to help pay for this type of service. so if a canadian were to make a phone call using vrs, americans or fcc would have to pay for it.

on the other hand, sorenson has been setting up centers in 4-5 of our provinces across canada, using our interpreters. and guess what? they only service the americans! this has had a huge negative impact on our community. i guess there are so many relay services in america, that they are experiencing a serious shortage of interpreters so sorenson decided to set up offices in canada to use our interpreters.

our telephone companies are run provincially rather than federally in canada which is why we do not have a similar system as fcc in usa. recently, our CRTC- canadian radio-television and telecommunications commission (similar to what fcc is for americans) announced they had surplus monies and that they were planning to set up vrs for canadians. i think what will happen is, our telephone companies such as bell, or telus will receive the money and they will decide whether to do it themselves or contract out to sorenson since they already have offices set up across canada.

i am in favor of our telephone companies contracting out sorenson the money to run services for canadians because they have had years of experience running vrs services, and they have the technology expertise as opposed to our telephone companies that know nothing and i have to admit, americans are always advanced technology-wise. so my thoughts are that sorenson would be able to keep technology updated as well. Also, if our telephone companies decided to set up vrs on their own, we would suffer a greater shortage of interpreters.

anyway, that is what i understand what is happening. i am curious to know what others think!

10-27-2008, 10:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
Chevy57 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Buckeye State Posts: 5,425	FCC's not allowing Canadian to use VRS. Any Video Relay Service Company will not provide to Deaf Canadian people anymore this week. Sad News for Deaf Canadian people. Banjo, what are you doing about it? __________________

10-27-2008, 10:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
JClarke Good times, good times. Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Packing bags for U.S.A Posts: 20,242 Blog Entries: 5	Yes, Brian, unfortunately. Unless, I hope that Viable can still let the aussies use their server to use the device to call the other people in australian soils, but we do not need their VRS services. Lets hope it is NOT too bad to be affected by us. If it is way beyond than we think, we'll have to protest FCC. __________________

10-27-2008, 11:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
PowerON Click me 12 time Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Suddenly, I'm cowboy. Posts: 6,863 Blog Entries: 4	I believe it's right thing because I would hate to see other countries are use US's money on service for nothing but lose to wrong "customer from region". Other country need to do their own money for disability people. Shame on them. __________________ • [Illustrator.Blog-alloon.com] • Don't shoot me! I'm only blogger!

10-29-2008, 11:05 AM	#13 (permalink)
Nathan Perfect Prosecutor Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lost in Paradise Posts: 2,828 Blog Entries: 6	I'm outside the USA, and I still have no problem making VRS calls to anywhere. I'm from P.R. __________________ Nathan's Blog "Good things come to those who wait" Last edited by Nathan; 10-30-2008 at 06:17 AM.

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10-27-2008, 10:48 PM	#2 (permalink)
*Brian* 極度の調整器 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,634	If this is for real, then deaf people in the United Kingdom, Australia, etc., are affected by this?

10-27-2008, 11:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
Banjo Mr. Movie Guy Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,960 Blog Entries: 1	The problem is, VRS is funded by American taxpayers' money. So yes, it will be intended for Americans' uses only.

10-28-2008, 12:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
*Brian* 極度の調整器 Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 4,634	Perhaps the deaf in the United Kingdom, Australia, etc, etc., could try to convince their federal regulators (similar to our FCC) to fund such for the deaf community. But I don't see how the federal regulators would be willing to fund for international calls from their countries. Sorenson and other VP providers could try entering international markets. Didn't Sorenson and other VP providers make VPs made available for the deaf attendants at the uh....Deaflympics event in Melbourne (VIC.)?

10-28-2008, 09:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
Royale Eek Doggah! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: World's Second Coldest Capital City! Posts: 1,908	I am sorry to tell you that the guy in vlog is misinformed or misunderstood. Canadians are allowed to call the VRS providers as long as they plan to contact their relatives, customer services and companies in the U.S. I am very familiar with the VRS issues in Canada and that is why I have seen some Deaf Canadians got misinformed about the VRS.

10-28-2008, 10:32 PM	#10 (permalink)
Royale Eek Doggah! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: World's Second Coldest Capital City! Posts: 1,908	Tonight I made two VP calls to two different VRS providers and I had no problems.

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12-04-2008, 08:00 PM	#24 (permalink)
radioman Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 793	I dont think FCC will cut international calls completely. If VRS does stop making calls from USA to cananda, I wouldnt be surprised. I would think is a bold move on the major VRS's part just to force Canadain goverment to start thinking about funding VRS's for the deaf for thier own people. I hope to god they do though.

12-05-2008, 01:38 AM	#25 (permalink)
missywinks Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 456	well, there was an announcement saying that vrs wouldn't provide services outside of usa as early as this or next week. this makes sense because fcc is usa-based and each american has to pay certain amount (cents?) towards their phone bill to help pay for this type of service. so if a canadian were to make a phone call using vrs, americans or fcc would have to pay for it. on the other hand, sorenson has been setting up centers in 4-5 of our provinces across canada, using our interpreters. and guess what? they only service the americans! this has had a huge negative impact on our community. i guess there are so many relay services in america, that they are experiencing a serious shortage of interpreters so sorenson decided to set up offices in canada to use our interpreters. our telephone companies are run provincially rather than federally in canada which is why we do not have a similar system as fcc in usa. recently, our CRTC- canadian radio-television and telecommunications commission (similar to what fcc is for americans) announced they had surplus monies and that they were planning to set up vrs for canadians. i think what will happen is, our telephone companies such as bell, or telus will receive the money and they will decide whether to do it themselves or contract out to sorenson since they already have offices set up across canada. i am in favor of our telephone companies contracting out sorenson the money to run services for canadians because they have had years of experience running vrs services, and they have the technology expertise as opposed to our telephone companies that know nothing and i have to admit, americans are always advanced technology-wise. so my thoughts are that sorenson would be able to keep technology updated as well. Also, if our telephone companies decided to set up vrs on their own, we would suffer a greater shortage of interpreters. anyway, that is what i understand what is happening. i am curious to know what others think!

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