Two joints oppose Sorenson's reconsideration

**Chevy57** · 09-17-2008, 05:11 PM

Both VRS providers and customers groups opposition to the reconsideration Sorenson filed with FCC.

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qwerty123 · 09-17-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

Both VRS providers and customers groups opposition to the reconsideration Sorenson filed with FCC.

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more crybabies

**Chevy57** · 09-17-2008, 08:05 PM

snallga · 09-17-2008, 11:14 PM

Come on, Sorenson! They still have major problem with other providers huh? They need to respect the FCC's order and zip their big mouth lol.

zerodog · 09-18-2008, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by snallga

Come on, Sorenson! They still have major problem with other providers huh? They need to respect the FCC's order and zip their big mouth lol.

Actually I got the 10 digital numbers from Sorenson, they did what they suppose to do and not understand what the big big big deal. Beside, I learn that VP100 couldn't work with 10 digital number due possible limited memories.

**Chevy57** · 09-18-2008, 07:01 AM

What do you think about it? I have determined to use HOVRS or other VRS to call any hearies. Shame to Sorenson greed!

**Chevy57** · 09-18-2008, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by zerodog

Actually I got the 10 digital numbers from Sorenson, they did what they suppose to do and not understand what the big big big deal. Beside, I learn that VP100 couldn't work with 10 digital number due possible limited memories.

Do you have real 10-digit phone number from Sorenson?

zerodog · 09-18-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

Do you have real 10-digit phone number from Sorenson?

Yes, I do...

**Chevy57** · 09-18-2008, 11:43 AM

how did you get it from sorenson? Do you have purple number? if yet, same or different numbers between sorenson and purple?

Deaf Mortgage · 09-18-2008, 11:45 AM

Interesting... I am still not 100% happy with FCC ruling but its a start.

I am still favor for one 10 digits to multi-videophones in a household. It can be done. FCC ruling not written that way. One step at a time.

**Chevy57** · 09-18-2008, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Deaf Mortgage

Interesting... I am still not 100% happy with FCC ruling but its a start.

I am still favor for one 10 digits to multi-videophones in a household. It can be done. FCC ruling not written that way. One step at a time.

I agree. One number once for different vps each household. I have purple number. If sorenson give another number, I refuse.

TechBill · 09-18-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

how did you get it from sorenson? Do you have purple number? if yet, same or different numbers between sorenson and purple?

You get it by going to the VP200 menu and in Settings -> User -> DirectVP Number next to that blank box is a "Get Number" button to get your 10 digit number.

I don't know about VP100 if they can get 10 digit number maybe that the reason why Sorenson want the delay?
I have no idea why Sorenson would want to delay it so I am just guessing here.

The number will be different since it is provided to you by different provider .. I have 2 different 10 digit number Purple number and MY IP Relay number so I never bother to get Sorenson 10 digit number cuz I don't want a 3rd 10 digit number ..

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Boult · 09-18-2008, 01:56 PM

DirectVP number is a toll free number and it starts with 8xx not a local area code...

I have two real 10 digit numbers, both HOVRS Purple Number and My IP Relay Number. I had My IP Relay number for years then this year I got Purple number. both has local area code.

TechBill · 09-18-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Boult

DirectVP number is a toll free number and it starts with 8xx not a local area code...

I have two real 10 digit numbers, both HOVRS Purple Number and My IP Relay Number. I had My IP Relay number for years then this year I got Purple number. both has local area code.

Ah I see thank for straigthen me out! I never used DirectVP but I have a friend who does and he said it like same as my MY IP RELAY number so I never bother to use DirectVP because I am mostly txt relay since I travel a lot and use my mobile phone AIM to get and send my phone calls..

I am hope MVP will change that and let me make phone calls with video in my travels . All motels I stay all have wifi and place I eat in my travels also have wifi too. Even Some Taco Bell now added wifi! whoo I love Taco Bell too! wheee! no more McDonalds wifi to check internet.

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qwerty123 · 09-18-2008, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by zerodog

Actually I got the 10 digital numbers from Sorenson, they did what they suppose to do and not understand what the big big big deal. Beside, I learn that VP100 couldn't work with 10 digital number due possible limited memories.

ur 10 digital nubmer start with area code not 866?

Boult · 09-18-2008, 02:48 PM

This link is about DirectVP
Sorenson VRS® DirectVP

**Chevy57** · 09-18-2008, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TechBill

You get it by going to the VP200 menu and in Settings -> User -> DirectVP Number next to that blank box is a "Get Number" button to get your 10 digit number.

I don't know about VP100 if they can get 10 digit number maybe that the reason why Sorenson want the delay?
I have no idea why Sorenson would want to delay it so I am just guessing here.

The number will be different since it is provided to you by different provider .. I have 2 different 10 digit number Purple number and MY IP Relay number so I never bother to get Sorenson 10 digit number cuz I don't want a 3rd 10 digit number ..

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Right. Sorenson have directVP number. not local phone number and not real 10-digit phone number.

Your IP relay number for using text mobile only.

zerodog · 09-18-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by qwerty123

ur 10 digital nubmer start with area code not 866?

That right...

Deaf Mortgage · 09-18-2008, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by zerodog

That right...

Who invented the 10 digit concept?

Its definitely not Sorenson.

zerodog · 09-18-2008, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

how did you get it from sorenson? Do you have purple number? if yet, same or different numbers between sorenson and purple?

The big different between Sorenson and the Purple. The purple has to update IP Address such like other old time and still alive?

Hope that answer to your question...

I got that Sorenson's 10 digital numbers and it work as smooth... I use both DirectVP and 10 digital numbers. Reason, keep free long distance from my family out state to reach me.

Again, if you want one. Simple, call technical support and they will give you one again, they will explain several thing about 10 digital number which nice benefit and look forward their new feature come out but when the new feature come out than 10 digital number, I hope answer machine or easy to reach instead of people who doesn't have computer to contact tech support for further help.

I had purple number, it turn me off... why.. I can't dial again with HOVRS, I have to do over and over... The phone number more than 10 digital number, yea.. long number?!?!

Anyway... I don't understand why other VRS so total against Sorenson that moment. I did asked them when did the develop start, they say a year ago to do testing ensure that proper system function for our videophone system.

So, I am not giving you my 10 digital number if you want my proof. Again, yes Sorenson does have 10 digital numbers.

zerodog · 09-18-2008, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Deaf Mortgage

Who invented the 10 digit concept?

Its definitely not Sorenson.

Are you sure? No one is first...

Deaf Mortgage · 09-18-2008, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by zerodog

Are you sure? No one is first...

Yes I am sure...

CSDVRS came out with the program called Freedom. When Sorenson opened the ports in June 2006, CSDVRS came out with personal 800 #. They were first to create the concept of 10 digits and bypass the relay number. No more telling and explaining two numbers... just one number. CSDVRS was first.

As today, I still have the original personal 800 # from CSDVRS. I was probability first 1,000 out of many they have now given.

Sorenson only came out vp direct as few months ago. its very recently and copy concept. However, Sorenson clever to use the concept and integrated with their product. There no copyright issue because under FCC.

FCC ruling came from CSDVRS with help of GoAmerica and other VRS. That how they climb and focus on Deaf's need.

I did see IP relay creating similar personal 800 number but via AIM program. They were first to use local number. I used to have a number under IP but stopped using it.

zerodog · 09-18-2008, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Deaf Mortgage

Yes I am sure...

CSDVRS came out with the program called Freedom. When Sorenson opened the ports in June 2006, CSDVRS came out with personal 800 #. They were first to create the concept of 10 digits and bypass the relay number. No more telling and explaining two numbers... just one number. CSDVRS was first.

As today, I still have the original personal 800 # from CSDVRS. I was probability first 1,000 out of many they have now given.

Sorenson only came out vp direct as few months ago. its very recently and copy concept. However, Sorenson clever to use the concept and integrated with their product. There no copyright issue because under FCC.

FCC ruling came from CSDVRS with help of GoAmerica and other VRS. That how they climb and focus on Deaf's need.

I did see IP relay creating similar personal 800 number but via AIM program. They were first to use local number. I used to have a number under IP but stopped using it.

Okay,

The answer is wrong... it begin the first ten digital number is way way way way back in our time. TTY is first....

Now... About the CSDVRS, tell me how do you set up the toll free number, does it require to update the IP Address if the IP Address is change due power outage or whatever reason, how does it update?

Deaf Mortgage · 09-18-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by zerodog

The big different between Sorenson and the Purple. The purple has to update IP Address such like other old time and still alive?

Hope that answer to your question...

I got that Sorenson's 10 digital numbers and it work as smooth... I use both DirectVP and 10 digital numbers. Reason, keep free long distance from my family out state to reach me.

Again, if you want one. Simple, call technical support and they will give you one again, they will explain several thing about 10 digital number which nice benefit and look forward their new feature come out but when the new feature come out than 10 digital number, I hope answer machine or easy to reach instead of people who doesn't have computer to contact tech support for further help.

I had purple number, it turn me off... why.. I can't dial again with HOVRS, I have to do over and over... The phone number more than 10 digital number, yea.. long number?!?!

Anyway... I don't understand why other VRS so total against Sorenson that moment. I did asked them when did the develop start, they say a year ago to do testing ensure that proper system function for our videophone system.

So, I am not giving you my 10 digital number if you want my proof. Again, yes Sorenson does have 10 digital numbers.

CSDVRS dont need to update IP address. Just download MYVP.TV into computer. Then it will take care itself. Its already now intergrated with personal 800 #. Nice feature and reliable now.

Old system was using NO-IP address. That was pain in neck with free software 3rd party sending soon expiration of host name.

Now Myvp.tv will always update your ip address.

Sorenson videophone do update IP address. They used Proxy number same concept as Hostname but not work across.

I wish sorenson should have released... 1-555-222-3333.svp.tv.

That would have created less problem and confusion among the peers.

zerodog · 09-18-2008, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deaf Mortgage

CSDVRS dont need to update IP address. Just download MYVP.TV into computer. Then it will take care itself. Its already now intergrated with personal 800 #. Nice feature and reliable now.

Old system was using NO-IP address. That was pain in neck with free software 3rd party sending soon expiration of host name.

Now Myvp.tv will always update your ip address.

Sorenson videophone do update IP address. They used Proxy number same concept as Hostname but not work across.

I wish sorenson should have released... 1-555-222-3333.svp.tv.

That would have created less problem and confusion among the peers.

That correct, but installed the software on my computer. I do not wish to install, what if the computer is down and couldn't update the next IP Address? I rather separate machine between videophone device and the desktop or the laptop.

About the phone number, I wouldn't like that such as 836-649-7984.mvp.tv, I rather just as regular number than that...

TechBill · 09-18-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Deaf Mortgage

Who invented the 10 digit concept?

Its definitely not Sorenson.

I first noticed real 10 digit number offered by "MY IP RELAY" so I applied for it and got a 10 digit number over a year ago. Maybe I had it for almost 2 year now or so ..

But I don't know who invented the 10 digit concept but I just know I gotten mine from "MY IP RELAY" when I didn't see any other VRS offering it.

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Deaf Mortgage · 09-18-2008, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by zerodog

That correct, but installed the software on my computer. I do not wish to install, what if the computer is down and couldn't update the next IP Address? I rather separate machine between videophone device and the desktop or the laptop.

About the phone number, I wouldn't like that such as 836-649-7984.mvp.tv, I rather just as regular number than that...

They dont use that # at all... You can use call based name.

Joecool.myvp.tv which will still connect to their vp.

TechBill · 09-18-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chevy57

Right. Sorenson have directVP number. not local phone number and not real 10-digit phone number.

Your IP relay number for using text mobile only.

DirectVP is a real 10 digit number because when hearing people dial it goes to relay which know who it for.

That the real purpose of deaf 10 digit number, call goes to relay in which relay contact you using either TXT or VRS.

Now the new 10 digit number is a number that goes BOTH WAYS ...

Hearing person dial that number will go ->Txt or VRS Relay -> You but if deaf person dial it on video phone then it will go -> You "not to relay" because system know it coming from video phone not hearing phone ....

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Deaf Mortgage · 09-18-2008, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TechBill

I first noticed real 10 digit number offered by "MY IP RELAY" so I applied for it and got a 10 digit number over a year ago. Maybe I had it for almost 2 year now or so ..

But I don't know who invented the 10 digit concept but I just know I gotten mine from "MY IP RELAY" when I didn't see any other VRS offering it.

.

Perhaps... CSDVRS first to use on VRS while MY IP Relay is first text relay?

2006 was the year both had the service.

TechBill · 09-18-2008, 04:10 PM

I just hope that the new 10 digit number VRS system is using something sort like SIP services so there no need to set up "forwarding ip" or router forwarding port etc. Using SIP allow you to make call from any provider without restriction and more than 1 device can be use on same modem etc because it will forward to the correct device by SIP.

It similar to what some VRS companies is doing right now but with their own server that when VP is connect to it it acknowledge your current ip address and save your address info and phone number list on it. And they can reach you by simple fake 10 digit number.

I believe that what other competive VRS companies is trying to block it because they would no longer have the power to control the central server and it will have to be set up and run inpdentencely to be used by all relay from different companies

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snallga Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Georgia Posts: 340	Come on, Sorenson! They still have major problem with other providers huh? They need to respect the FCC's order and zip their big mouth lol.

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Chevy57 Sherlock Hound Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: O..HI..O! Posts: 10,345	What do you think about it? I have determined to use HOVRS or other VRS to call any hearies. Shame to Sorenson greed!

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Chevy57 Sherlock Hound Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: O..HI..O! Posts: 10,345	how did you get it from sorenson? Do you have purple number? if yet, same or different numbers between sorenson and purple?

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Deaf Mortgage Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Loon State Posts: 909 Blog Entries: 3	Interesting... I am still not 100% happy with FCC ruling but its a start. I am still favor for one 10 digits to multi-videophones in a household. It can be done. FCC ruling not written that way. One step at a time.

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TechBill Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,095	I just hope that the new 10 digit number VRS system is using something sort like SIP services so there no need to set up "forwarding ip" or router forwarding port etc. Using SIP allow you to make call from any provider without restriction and more than 1 device can be use on same modem etc because it will forward to the correct device by SIP. It similar to what some VRS companies is doing right now but with their own server that when VP is connect to it it acknowledge your current ip address and save your address info and phone number list on it. And they can reach you by simple fake 10 digit number. I believe that what other competive VRS companies is trying to block it because they would no longer have the power to control the central server and it will have to be set up and run inpdentencely to be used by all relay from different companies