Webcam for VP Chat ?

Y · 08-28-2006, 05:48 PM

I just got back here from the Staples store
I saw Webcams for sale with different kinds
and different prices Confusing !! I cannot
tell which one is BEST for VP chat ?
Any kind of Webcam is no matter at all, Right ?

I am thinking about buy Webcam
but I am NOT sure which kind of Webcam to
purchase suitable for VP Chat ?

1) Creative Live! Ultra Webcam $79.99

CCD image sensor with 640x480 (VGA) resolution
USB 2.0 Hi-Speed connection
Full-motion video at 30 frames per second

2) Creative WebCam Live! $49.99

Still resolution: up to 1024 x 768, Video resolution: 640 x 480
Video capture at up to 30 frames per second (fps)
Dedicated microphone for superior audio

3) Creative Webcam Live Pro $79.99
Still and video resolution: 640 x 480
Takes 1.3 Megapixel still images
Integrated, flexible base

SxyPorkie · 08-28-2006, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y

I just got back here from the Staples store
I saw Webcams for sale with different kinds
and different prices Confusing !! I cannot
tell which one is BEST for VP chat ?
Any kind of Webcam is no matter at all, Right ?

I am thinking about buy Webcam
but I am NOT sure which kind of Webcam to
purchase suitable for VP Chat ?

1) Creative Live! Ultra Webcam $79.99

CCD image sensor with 640x480 (VGA) resolution
USB 2.0 Hi-Speed connection
Full-motion video at 30 frames per second

2) Creative WebCam Live! $49.99

Still resolution: up to 1024 x 768, Video resolution: 640 x 480
Video capture at up to 30 frames per second (fps)
Dedicated microphone for superior audio

3) Creative Webcam Live Pro $79.99
Still and video resolution: 640 x 480
Takes 1.3 Megapixel still images
Integrated, flexible base

Are you hearing or deaf??? if you are deaf..You get free VP Sorenson.. with understanding you have high speed cable or DSL...

Y · 08-28-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SxyPorkie

Are you hearing or deaf??? if you are deaf..You get free VP Sorenson.. with understanding you have high speed cable or DSL...

I'm Stoned Deaf
I am talking about Webcam for any VP chat

NOTE: I am NOT talking about Sorenson at all

EDGE · 08-28-2006, 08:49 PM

just as long as you find webcam with 30 fps, that's important.

Y · 08-28-2006, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EDGE

just as long as you find webcam with 30 fps, that's important.

Ok thank u ! fps = frame per second

it looks like all of them have at least 30 fps
but which 1 or 2 or 3 do you think would be best ?

EDGE · 08-28-2006, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Y

Ok thank u ! fps = frame per second

it looks like all of them have at least 30 fps
but which 1 or 2 or 3 do you think would be best ?

just 30 fsp and see if it have one with low price. ;)

diehardbiker · 08-29-2006, 01:21 AM

Wait!

You can apply with either HOVRS or Hamilton relay service. They will send you free webcam!!! They are far much better than those you have seen. I can't remmy, but there is two sensors. CMOS and CCD, I believe CCD is best for VP chat. CMOS is cheaper sensor, not as great as CCD. I think....

Y · 08-29-2006, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

Wait!

You can apply with either HOVRS or Hamilton relay service. They will send you free webcam!!! They are far much better than those you have seen. I can't remmy, but there is two sensors. CMOS and CCD, I believe CCD is best for VP chat. CMOS is cheaper sensor, not as great as CCD. I think....

Oh Great... How sweeeet !
I do NOT know how to say "thank you so much !"

Sunshine1 · 08-29-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

Wait!

You can apply with either HOVRS or Hamilton relay service. They will send you free webcam!!! They are far much better than those you have seen. I can't remmy, but there is two sensors. CMOS and CCD, I believe CCD is best for VP chat. CMOS is cheaper sensor, not as great as CCD. I think....

Can you give us a link or two for apply for free webcam please. Thanks.

diehardbiker · 08-29-2006, 01:55 PM

HOVRS.com and Hamilton Relay - Hamilton Relay VRS

Update: As of right now HIPvrs had suspended free distribution of equipment. DAMN! I just found out a minute ago. HOVRS still distributes free equipment, you have to pick one of these three equipment. Webcam is one of them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunshine1

Can you give us a link or two for apply for free webcam please. Thanks.

LakeTahoe · 08-29-2006, 01:59 PM

Tweetybird has one ask her about it. She know which one that she got it for free.

Maybe I should do the same for my PC!

SxyPorkie · 08-29-2006, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeTahoe

Tweetybird has one ask her about it. She know which one that she got it for free.

Maybe I should do the same for my PC!

Yeah maybe i should.. i have old webcam... lousy... thank you...

LakeTahoe · 08-29-2006, 02:47 PM

I found it!

https://secure.hovrs.com/equipment/requestform.aspx

request what you wanted.

Good luck! I just applied.

Sunshine1 · 08-30-2006, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

HOVRS.com and Hamilton Relay - Hamilton Relay VRS

Update: As of right now HIPvrs had suspended free distribution of equipment. DAMN! I just found out a minute ago. HOVRS still distributes free equipment, you have to pick one of these three equipment. Webcam is one of them.

Oh great .. thanks for replay!

diehardbiker · 08-30-2006, 01:11 AM

Your welcome!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunshine1

Oh great .. thanks for replay!

Sunshine1 · 08-30-2006, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LakeTahoe

Tweetybird has one ask her about it. She know which one that she got it for free.

Maybe I should do the same for my PC!

Yes ... I got it from DHB. Thanks!

Sunshine1 · 08-30-2006, 01:23 AM

Hmmm ... can anyone explain pro and con for between webcam and DLink i2eye (Videophone) from HOVRS?

diehardbiker · 08-30-2006, 01:36 AM

Big difference!
The true advantage of Dlink VP or sorenson VP over webcam is far superior video quality, and if you want equal video quality using webcam, you have to disable the firewall on your computer which pose greater threats from hackers and viruses against your PC, while VP unit itself is meaningless to most of viruses and hackers.

The router itself, where you can set up firewall setting. If you notice DMZ feature on it, give you an idea... You know these airport security nowadays? Long line for check point right? Same concept with firewall built in routers. Using DMZ is like having airport checkpoint for all airplanes, and there is only one gate without security checkpoint so anyone can barge in that plane, so... Image that, if terrorist want the easiest way to gain access? That gate without security checkpint is most likely for terrorist to barge in. Same idea, with DMZ port it allows free flow of data in and out of that DMZ port, while the rest of the port which you connects your PC to have to go though security checkpoint.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunshine1

Hmmm ... can anyone explain pro and con for between webcam and DLink i2eye (Videophone) from HOVRS?

Sunshine1 · 08-30-2006, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

Big difference!
The true advantage of Dlink VP or sorenson VP over webcam is far superior video quality, and if you want equal video quality using webcam, you have to disable the firewall on your computer which pose greater threats from hackers and viruses against your PC, while VP unit itself is meaningless to most of viruses and hackers.

The router itself, where you can set up firewall setting. If you notice DMZ feature on it, give you an idea... You know these airport security nowadays? Long line for check point right? Same concept with firewall built in routers. Using DMZ is like having airport checkpoint for all airplanes, and there is only one gate without security checkpoint so anyone can barge in that plane, so... Image that, if terrorist want the easiest way to gain access? That gate without security checkpint is most likely for terrorist to barge in. Same idea, with DMZ port it allows free flow of data in and out of that DMZ port, while the rest of the port which you connects your PC to have to go though security checkpoint.

Does DLink i2eye would be better (for video qualities) then what I have DLink 10/100 Fast Ethernet Switch?

diehardbiker · 08-30-2006, 01:48 AM

If you have choice and you plan to have VP in same place, then Either Sorenson VP or Dlink VP would be best choice. For those who don't have TV, or want portablity then cam is next choice.
You can have both if you want to.

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Originally Posted by Sunshine1

Does DLink i2eye would be better (for video qualities) then what I have DLink 10/100 Fast Ethernet Switch?

Sunshine1 · 08-30-2006, 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

If you have choice and you plan to have VP in same place, then Either Sorenson VP or Dlink VP would be best choice. For those who don't have TV, or want portablity then cam is next choice.
You can have both if you want to.

Oh great .. then I know what to pick. Thank you so much.

Boult · 08-30-2006, 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

Big difference!
The true advantage of Dlink VP or sorenson VP over webcam is far superior video quality, and if you want equal video quality using webcam, you have to disable the firewall on your computer which pose greater threats from hackers and viruses against your PC, while VP unit itself is meaningless to most of viruses and hackers.

The router itself, where you can set up firewall setting. If you notice DMZ feature on it, give you an idea... You know these airport security nowadays? Long line for check point right? Same concept with firewall built in routers. Using DMZ is like having airport checkpoint for all airplanes, and there is only one gate without security checkpoint so anyone can barge in that plane, so... Image that, if terrorist want the easiest way to gain access? That gate without security checkpint is most likely for terrorist to barge in. Same idea, with DMZ port it allows free flow of data in and out of that DMZ port, while the rest of the port which you connects your PC to have to go though security checkpoint.

not really, it is not required to turn firewall completely off to allow video connection to get thru. You can have firewall turned on but open ports required for HOVRS or Hamilton. In my case, I am mac user and I use iChat in Mac os X. I already have created setting in firewall to allow videochat to get thru bidirectionally. It does not slow down or choppy.

Keep in mind, I don't use router. If using router just enable firewall in PC. XP comes with firewall software built in. It will notify you that certain software is trying to get thru while attempting to use videochat then you can click "ok" to open the port.

for HOVRS, take a look at those FAQ;
https://secure.hovrs.com/cc/faq.aspx

You still can have secure connection with certains ports open required for HOVRS video chatting.

as for AIM videochat this page will tell you which port to open;
http://aimtoday.aim.com/features/mai...p?fid=video_im

diehardbiker · 08-30-2006, 03:23 AM

Keep that in mind that MAC faced far less threats with attacks than windows do. So, it won't matter to you much, but it does make difference on window platform. Im not saying that Windows is bad, just that they faced greater risk, that is all. Im speaking generally because most computers are windows based.

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Originally Posted by Boult

not really, it is not required to turn firewall completely off to allow video connection to get thru. You can have firewall turned on but open ports required for HOVRS or Hamilton. In my case, I am mac user and I use iChat in Mac os X. I already have created setting in firewall to allow videochat to get thru bidirectionally. It does not slow down or choppy.

Keep in mind, I don't use router. If using router just enable firewall in PC. XP comes with firewall software built in. It will notify you that certain software is trying to get thru while attempting to use videochat then you can click "ok" to open the port.

for HOVRS, take a look at those FAQ;
https://secure.hovrs.com/cc/faq.aspx

You still can have secure connection with certains ports open required for HOVRS video chatting.

as for AIM videochat this page will tell you which port to open;
http://aimtoday.aim.com/features/mai...p?fid=video_im

Boult · 08-30-2006, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

Keep that in mind that MAC faced far less threats with attacks than windows do. So, it won't matter to you much, but it does make difference on window platform. Im not saying that Windows is bad, just that they faced greater risk, that is all. Im speaking generally because most computers are windows based.

but it still is good idea to be secure. not from virus but from intrusion. mac os x is secure out of box while windows is not secure out of box. that's why we hear many stories that they got infected within hours of powering up new pc.

Anyway, It is possible to have smooth high fps video chat with firewall enabled provided that necessary ports. And provided that owner have plenty of rams, in good lighting condition, decent cpu/motherboard. Best results comes out of brand new pc that is released this year.

I highly recommend every windows user to switch to Mac. Check out leopard preview of ichat feature! it is a killer!
http://www.apple.com/macosx/leopard/ichat.html
iChat works great with HOVRS using HOVRSIM;
https://secure.hovrs.com/hovrsIM/hovrsIM.aspx
(notice the "Top 3 FAQ" )

diehardbiker · 08-30-2006, 04:03 AM

Yea, I am going to do another experiment. Will try Linux with cam see how well it runs. I know Linux is about the same risk as MAC faced. Your right about Windows being easily infested. I have tried my cam on my lappy with HOVRS, not bad! Still, stand alone VP is better anyway. You could have both cam and VP if you want to, who says you can't?

My lappy have built in CAM, I haven't done much experiment yet. need to learn more. Gonna work on it this coming Winter at RIT. :-D

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Originally Posted by Boult

but it still is good idea to be secure. not from virus but from intrusion. mac os x is secure out of box while windows is not secure out of box. that's why we hear many stories that they got infected within hours of powering up new pc.

Anyway, It is possible to have smooth high fps video chat with firewall enabled provided that necessary ports. And provided that owner have plenty of rams, in good lighting condition, decent cpu/motherboard. Best results comes out of brand new pc that is released this year.

I highly recommend every windows user to switch to Mac. Check out leopard preview of ichat feature! it is a killer!
Apple - Apple - Mac OS X - Leopard Sneak Peek - iChat
iChat works great with HOVRS using HOVRSIM;
https://secure.hovrs.com/hovrsIM/hovrsIM.aspx
(notice the "Top 3 FAQ" )

08-28-2006, 05:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
Y Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 3,113	Webcam for VP Chat ? I just got back here from the Staples store I saw Webcams for sale with different kinds and different prices Confusing !! I cannot tell which one is BEST for VP chat ? Any kind of Webcam is no matter at all, Right ? I am thinking about buy Webcam but I am NOT sure which kind of Webcam to purchase suitable for VP Chat ? 1) Creative Live! Ultra Webcam $79.99 CCD image sensor with 640x480 (VGA) resolution USB 2.0 Hi-Speed connection Full-motion video at 30 frames per second 2) Creative WebCam Live! $49.99 Still resolution: up to 1024 x 768, Video resolution: 640 x 480 Video capture at up to 30 frames per second (fps) Dedicated microphone for superior audio 3) Creative Webcam Live Pro $79.99 Still and video resolution: 640 x 480 Takes 1.3 Megapixel still images Integrated, flexible base __________________

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LakeTahoe ~~JUST ME!!~~ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lost somewhere on the Earth! Posts: 12,037	Tweetybird has one ask her about it. She know which one that she got it for free. Maybe I should do the same for my PC! __________________ HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

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LakeTahoe ~~JUST ME!!~~ Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Lost somewhere on the Earth! Posts: 12,037	I found it! https://secure.hovrs.com/equipment/requestform.aspx request what you wanted. Good luck! I just applied. __________________ HAPPY HALLOWEEN!

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diehardbiker Busy in poker room Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 6,020	Wait! You can apply with either HOVRS or Hamilton relay service. They will send you free webcam!!! They are far much better than those you have seen. I can't remmy, but there is two sensors. CMOS and CCD, I believe CCD is best for VP chat. CMOS is cheaper sensor, not as great as CCD. I think....

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Sunshine1 CM Punk's Godmother/Aunt Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,440	Hmmm ... can anyone explain pro and con for between webcam and DLink i2eye (Videophone) from HOVRS?