Do you have I2EYES Dlink VideoPhone?

09-01-2005, 02:27 PM

Do you have I2EYES Dlink VideoPhone?

Right now we do have two brands....

DeafSCUBA98 · 09-01-2005, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mld4ds

Do you have I2EYES Dlink VideoPhone?

Right now we do have two brands....

i prefer sorenson... that's my type.. someone offer me a Dlink.. i decline the offer.

lovesorenson · 09-01-2005, 02:59 PM

I2EYES VP is blah... very boring machine... too much keying in... no automatic stuffs... very manual machine... Not surprised that this machine will be discontinued.

09-01-2005, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lovesorenson

I2EYES VP is blah... very boring machine... too much keying in... no automatic stuffs... very manual machine... Not surprised that this machine will be discontinued.

keep talking.....

See my post: http://www.alldeaf.com/showpost.php?...7&postcount=11

Dennis · 09-01-2005, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by lovesorenson

I2EYES VP is blah... very boring machine... too much keying in... no automatic stuffs... very manual machine... Not surprised that this machine will be discontinued.

Are you SURE you don't work for Sorenson? They're the only people I know who actively talk shit about D-Link and their "competing" product -- when they don't realize that D-Link works for Sorenson too. Nice, putting down those who work with you. Idiots.

***VamPyroX*** · 09-01-2005, 08:16 PM

I used to have one last year when I was living in the dorms. I will be getting it again this year now that I'm back in the dorms again.

TweetyBird · 09-01-2005, 08:16 PM

i have both..

Lavender · 09-01-2005, 08:30 PM

No, I don't want one cuz I will never understand to interpreter. I prefer with closed-captioned, it's easier for me to learn a better engl than asl.

diehardbiker · 09-01-2005, 08:48 PM

Will i2eye discontinue? Your funny! Sorenson bought I2eye and reprogramed them.
Im NOT that crazy about Sorenson, and do prefer other VRS than Sorenson so... I am happy to see there is competition and that Sorenson is starting to improve because of this competition.

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Originally Posted by lovesorenson

I2EYES VP is blah... very boring machine... too much keying in... no automatic stuffs... very manual machine... Not surprised that this machine will be discontinued.

SherryCherish · 09-01-2005, 10:40 PM

how about anyone hear ilink? its a another videophone

SherryCherish · 09-01-2005, 10:44 PM

http://www.csdvrs.com/father.html that one.

Lantana · 09-01-2005, 10:47 PM

Competition is HEALTHY to a point.

09-02-2005, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

Will i2eye discontinue? Your funny! Sorenson bought I2eye and reprogramed them.
Im NOT that crazy about Sorenson, and do prefer other VRS than Sorenson so... I am happy to see there is competition and that Sorenson is starting to improve because of this competition.

Very interesting. Sorenson reengineered the I2EYES VP then to upgraded their R & D (Research and Development). Then they spread new relay services across the nation...

09-02-2005, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Lavender

No, I don't want one cuz I will never understand to interpreter. I prefer with closed-captioned, it's easier for me to learn a better engl than asl.

Not even to see and speak to your friends? You do not need to use the VRS. Does that mean you prefer to speak your family/friend over the TTY with carry over voice?

09-02-2005, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SherryCherish

how about anyone hear ilink? its a another videophone

Yes, Dlink is I2EYES...

09-02-2005, 01:57 AM

Come on...Pls vote the AD Poll...

dkf747 · 09-02-2005, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by mld4ds

Very interesting. Sorenson reengineered the I2EYES VP then to upgraded their R & D (Research and Development). Then they spread new relay services across the nation...

You guys seem to have it backwards or I am misunderstanding. IIRC, Sorenson invented or made the VP and licensed the i2eye version to D-link.

I use the vp-100, but I do have the Dlink i2eye. The VP-100 was designed specifically for relay, while the i2eye (DVC-1000) has a broader application for any videoconferencing.

09-04-2005, 10:09 PM

{edited} may not be familiar with poll systems. {edited} created the poll for Sorsenson only instead of I2EYES. Look at {edited} poll that everyone voted for Sorsenson that has high rates. However, look at my poll that everyone has two VPs. That's why Sorsenson poll is very weak scienfic evidence. You may ask your professional marketing consultant firm and which of {edited} or me is right.

{Mod Edit: You'll need to understand the other 'poll' you're referring to is entirely different and is in no relation or proximity to the TYPE of poll here...therefore, pls. keep that 'out' of your poll--thank you! }

09-04-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dkf747

You guys seem to have it backwards or I am misunderstanding. IIRC, Sorenson invented or made the VP and licensed the i2eye version to D-link.

I use the vp-100, but I do have the Dlink i2eye. The VP-100 was designed specifically for relay, while the i2eye (DVC-1000) has a broader application for any videoconferencing.

I do not have resource. You may be right. Can you provide me an evidence?

diehardbiker · 09-04-2005, 10:23 PM

No, not true that VP-100 were made specifically for relay! You could use VP-100 for any videoconferencing with just practically anyone who use H.232 protocol. The only thing that VP-100 designs differ from Dlink was that it is programmed to use specifically ONE VRS provider, that is SorensonVRS. They have them blocked with other VRS provider.

Sorenson have I think 3 patents on these device, while Dlink have 7 patents on them as well. Dlink is the manufacturer for these devices. Sorenson don't really owns whole thing at all.

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Originally Posted by dkf747

You guys seem to have it backwards or I am misunderstanding. IIRC, Sorenson invented or made the VP and licensed the i2eye version to D-link.

I use the vp-100, but I do have the Dlink i2eye. The VP-100 was designed specifically for relay, while the i2eye (DVC-1000) has a broader application for any videoconferencing.

HiBluE01 · 09-05-2005, 06:49 AM

I Already Have I2EYES VP!!!!

dkf747 · 09-05-2005, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

No, not true that VP-100 were made specifically for relay!

FROM: http://www.sorensonvrs.com/company/index.php

"The company's Sorenson VP-100™ is the first consumer-based broadband videophone appliance specifically designed for deaf and hard-of-hearing individuals. Sorenson IP Relay Service (www.siprelay.com) allows users to place text-based relay calls from a PC or mobile device to any standard telephone user."

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You could use VP-100 for any videoconferencing with just practically anyone who use H.232 protocol.

You can use it as a doorstop or as a paper weight as well. Doesn't mean it was designed for that purpose. I guess using big words like "designed" might throw you off the point. Sorenson makes its money from VRS, not when you use it for VP to VP videoconferencing. That's a feature of it, but is not it's main purpose.

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The only thing that VP-100 designs differ from Dlink was that it is programmed to use specifically ONE VRS provider, that is SorensonVRS. They have them blocked with other VRS provider. [

The other difference is in how they are marketed. The DVC-1000 is marketed to hearing people and corporations. It was also used by other VRS services to compete with Sorenson's product.

Sorenson designed the software for both the DVC-1000 and the VP-100. That's why Sorenson can add features while the competitors are left out in the cold. (Yes, that is an example of Monopoly power.)

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Sorenson have I think 3 patents on these device, while Dlink have 7 patents on them as well. Dlink is the manufacturer for these devices. Sorenson don't really owns whole thing at all.

from: http://www.sorenson.com/products/

" The Sorenson VP-100 and the D-Link i2eye videophones were both developed by Sorenson Communications. However, the Sorenson-branded videophone is designed specifically for the deaf community while the D-Link i2eye videophone is intended for the mass market. "

Sorenson does not own DLink, however, they do license the technology to DLink to sell. The same way a japanese built car can have Chevrolet's name on it.

diehardbiker · 09-05-2005, 10:01 AM

Re-READ again! It does NOT say specifically designed for use only SorensonVRS! It was specifically designed for deafies as political purposes to get $ grants, that is ALL! I can call my friends and associates who have videoconference unit though my Sorenson VP-100 without any problem.

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Originally Posted by dkf747

FROM: http://www.sorensonvrs.com/company/index.php

"The company's Sorenson VP-100™ is the first consumer-based broadband videophone appliance specifically designed for deaf and hard-of-hearing individuals.

Clarification, Dlink VP and Sorenson VP were almost identically to each other, just that Sorenson added features in there like phone book, etc, and disable only numbers that would connects to other VRS provider. That is ALL!

dkf747 · 09-05-2005, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardbiker65

Re-READ again! It does NOT say specifically designed for use only SorensonVRS! It was specifically designed for deafies as political purposes to get $ grants, that is ALL! I can call my friends and associates who have videoconference unit though my Sorenson VP-100 without any problem.

DHB - that is almost the same as what I said.

09-06-2005, 09:50 AM

Is that all in debating? Very interesting debatation thread...

Any of VP can be working each other especially Webcams. Other kind of videotelecommunication device can not work to either I2EYES and Sorsenson. They must match the specifically design. I.E., Videotelecommunication can not match any VPs for military agencies...

diehardbiker · 09-06-2005, 02:03 PM

Exactly! you are on right track.
It really depend on protocol. If it is H.232 compliant then NO PROBLEM connect that VP from Sorenson or I2eye.

The one, motorola just manufacturer uses H.264 compliant, THEN that model will NOT work with any VRS or VP-100 or I2eye! Motorola is STUPID company, thinking that they will land in high demanding market. They missed a mile away!

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Originally Posted by mld4ds

Is that all in debating? Very interesting debatation thread...

Any of VP can be working each other especially Webcams. Other kind of videotelecommunication device can not work to either I2EYES and Sorsenson. They must match the specifically design. I.E., Videotelecommunication can not match any VPs for military agencies...

09-20-2005, 02:10 PM

How well do you know if you signed the Sorenson and VRS agreement contract?

Did you know that Sorenson Media can be very nosy on your converations much worse than any VRS? Read next post...

09-20-2005, 02:11 PM

A deaf installer for VRS told me that Sorenson Media has rights to monitor any converstions between you and ASL person espeically with interpreters. That means you automatically lost your private info....

VP-100 SORENSON VRS™ SERVICE & PRODUCTS AGREEMENT

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C. Further, Sorenson Media reserves the right to investigate any abusive, pornographic, lewd, obscene, harassing, fraudulent, or unlawful use or access of the VRS or breach of this Agreement and to seek reimbursement and damages, and Sorenson Media will not be liable for any cost or damage arising either directly or indirectly from your use or misuse of the VRS. Further, Sorenson Media reserves the right to monitor your use of the VRS to ensure you do not violate the terms and conditions of this Agreement and to terminate this Agreement and the VRS immediately in the event of any violation.

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Calls made through the VRS are confidential. Sorenson Media will not disclose any information from your conversations, and no records of the conversations content are kept. Sorenson Media has implemented technology and security features and strict policy guidelines to safeguard the privacy of your video relay calls and any customer identifiable information from unauthorized access or improper use, and Sorenson Media will continue to enhance its security procedures as new technology becomes available.

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H: You the Sorenson VRS Client understand and hereby acknowledge that your use of Sorenson VRS requires that your voice and/or image may be recorded and transmitted over the Internet. You further understand that due to the nature of the internet any privacy right, copyright or other right or interest in your voice, image or likeness may be lost with respect to any specific transmission as a result of such transmission. You authorize and specifically grant permission to Sorenson Media, Inc. to record and transmit your voice, likeness and/or image over the Internet solely for the purpose of use of VRS interpretation services at Sorenson Media, Inc., and further release and agree to hold Sorenson Media, Inc. harmless from any and all responsibility for any such loss of rights and/or interests resulting from transmission of your voice, image and/or likeness over the internet. The foregoing shall not be construed to be a consent to use of your voice, image or likeness for purposes other than use of Sorenson VRS. Except for the authorization and permission specifically granted to Sorenson Media, Inc. in this agreement, you reserve all right, title and interest in and to any and all forms of your voice, image or likeness. You as a Sorenson VRS client agree to not use or facilitate the use of the voice, image, and/or likeness of the Sorenson VRS interpreter in any way other than for the purposes intended by Sorenson Media, Inc. for performance of its Sorenson VRS interpretation services. Sorenson Media shall have the right to immediately terminate, suspend, restrict, or cancel your use of the VRS without advance notice in the event that Sorenson Media becomes aware that you are or may be breaching the prohibitions of this paragraph

Well, they may save your digital converations in the file.....

View Poll Results: Do you have I2EYES Dlink VideoPhone?
Already Have I2EYES VP	8	19.51%
Already Have Sorenson VP	12	29.27%
Already Have Both	18	43.90%
No	2	4.88%
No, becasue of Perference to use Tradional Relay Service or Online Relay Service	0	0%
Will Order Someday or Soon	1	2.44%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

09-01-2005, 02:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
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09-01-2005, 08:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
*VamPyroX* bloody phreak from hell Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hell Posts: 23,644	I used to have one last year when I was living in the dorms. I will be getting it again this year now that I'm back in the dorms again. __________________ Check out my city... CLICK HERE! (If you already visited yesterday, visit again today!)

09-01-2005, 10:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
Lantana Older and Wiser Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Oregon Coast/Washington Coast/Hawaii Posts: 385	Competition is HEALTHY to a point. __________________ "The best things in life are not things."

09-04-2005, 10:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mookie Guest Posts: n/a	{edited} may not be familiar with poll systems. {edited} created the poll for Sorsenson only instead of I2EYES. Look at {edited} poll that everyone voted for Sorsenson that has high rates. However, look at my poll that everyone has two VPs. That's why Sorsenson poll is very weak scienfic evidence. You may ask your professional marketing consultant firm and which of {edited} or me is right. {Mod Edit: You'll need to understand the other 'poll' you're referring to is entirely different and is in no relation or proximity to the TYPE of poll here...therefore, pls. keep that 'out' of your poll--thank you! } Last edited by Roadrunner; 09-05-2005 at 12:51 PM. Reason: Let's NOT compare or judge any other polls--there's really no specific guideline, right or wrong way when doing a poll...hence, respect 'other' polls and creator's desire and intent

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09-01-2005, 02:59 PM	#3 (permalink)
lovesorenson Sorenson VP user Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 58	I2EYES VP is blah... very boring machine... too much keying in... no automatic stuffs... very manual machine... Not surprised that this machine will be discontinued.

09-01-2005, 08:16 PM	#7 (permalink)
TweetyBird Live, Laugh & Love Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: AlAbAmA Posts: 20,573	i have both..

09-01-2005, 08:30 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lavender Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 271	No, I don't want one cuz I will never understand to interpreter. I prefer with closed-captioned, it's easier for me to learn a better engl than asl.

09-01-2005, 10:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
SherryCherish "Can't Hear but Can See" Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: somewhere in USA Posts: 4,549	how about anyone hear ilink? its a another videophone

09-01-2005, 10:44 PM	#11 (permalink)
SherryCherish "Can't Hear but Can See" Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: somewhere in USA Posts: 4,549	http://www.csdvrs.com/father.html that one.

09-02-2005, 01:57 AM	#16 (permalink)
Mookie Guest Posts: n/a	Come on...Pls vote the AD Poll...

09-05-2005, 06:49 AM	#21 (permalink)
HiBluE01 Kristy's life in Hawaii! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hawaii Posts: 2,493	I Already Have I2EYES VP!!!! __________________ HiBluE01

09-06-2005, 09:50 AM	#25 (permalink)
Mookie Guest Posts: n/a	Is that all in debating? Very interesting debatation thread... Any of VP can be working each other especially Webcams. Other kind of videotelecommunication device can not work to either I2EYES and Sorsenson. They must match the specifically design. I.E., Videotelecommunication can not match any VPs for military agencies...

09-20-2005, 02:10 PM	#27 (permalink)
Mookie Guest Posts: n/a	How well do you know if you signed the Sorenson and VRS agreement contract? Did you know that Sorenson Media can be very nosy on your converations much worse than any VRS? Read next post...

09-21-2005, 11:00 AM	#29 (permalink)
Mookie Guest Posts: n/a