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Old 03-04-2005, 12:02 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Right on, you hit the nail. Did you know that Sorenson renamed the installer to trainer? So, it is more accurate. Much education needs to be done on the end user. Usually, trainer will show the "Dial VRS" button and enter the voice number. User will ask what are the other VRS numbers. At that point, the user will realize single provider and decide from there. No problemo with FCC's "informed consent"

So, it is either now or later when the user really realizes.

BTW, it takes only one minute to config' the router for many installations.

Looks like we all are beating the same dead horse to even more deader.

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Not quite. There are exacterbating conditions that make the acceptance possibly less than legal.

First off, the installer has spent some time in your home already. They had to set up the TV and the videophone, and possibly even configure your router. Now, to stop at the "I Agree" screen at this point would be just silly. The installer wants to get paid, so they'll explain that it's no big deal and nothing bad is in there anywhere. Of course, you'll find that out LATER.
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Old 03-04-2005, 12:36 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I think the horse is quite alive and well, with the debate still kicking. Until everyone gets what they want or the FCC settles it for us, Sorenson's approach to controlling our communication will cause some people to feel one way or another.

No, I didn't know they were now designated "trainers" vs. installers. I guess the name doesn't mean much as long as they're subcontractors or hourly employees.

Do all installers for all companies really understand the FCC orders?
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Old 03-12-2005, 11:52 AM   #33 (permalink)
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No, I didn't know they were now designated "trainers" vs. installers. I guess the name doesn't mean much as long as they're subcontractors or hourly employees.

Its the same thing as a "Janitor" be renamed to "Environmental Sanitation & Hygenic Specialist"

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Old 03-12-2005, 01:33 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I got two Sorenson VP-100, the first one I wait for only 4 days after apply for one! Second one took me only 2 weeks to get that! I then apply though www.C-S-D.org for Dlink DVC-1000 and got within 3 weeks. Also WWW.Hamiltonvrs.com and got another Dlink DVC-1000 in mail within 3 weeks. If you all want faster in getting one and KNOW HOW to install, HAMILTON is BEST! Hamilton don't require to send an installer UNLESS you ask for. If you want to know how much $ I paid for Dlink DVC-1000... the answer is ZERO dollars and Zero cent!

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Old 03-12-2005, 01:49 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I am just wondering how come you guys ever use an iChat AV or small video camera on top of your monitor? What's wrong with that? It seems that Sorenson is good idea, but it produces a lot of electricity to run your house - i.e. TV and the video, adaptors - , but it is not that big deal.

Here is an example of iSight if you have an Apple computer:
http://www.apple.com/ichat/

There are many web-cameras that avaliable for IBM PC computers.
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Old 03-12-2005, 01:54 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Have you ACTUALLY seen the VP-100 or DVC-1000 though TV??? If not, I bet you once you see, you won't believe how far superior in video quality with these VP-100 or DVC-1000! Can't beat webcam!!!
Believe me back then I was resisting in getting Sorenson VP-100 until good friend of mine convienced me, told me what I got to lose? I said none, alright go ahead order VP instead of replacing webcam, and at the moment I first used VRS though VP-100, That is it! Im already fall in love with it.

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I am just wondering how come you guys ever use an iChat AV or small video camera on top of your monitor? What's wrong with that? It seems that Sorenson is good idea, but it produces a lot of electricity to run your house - i.e. TV and the video, adaptors - , but it is not that big deal.

Here is an example of iSight if you have an Apple computer:
http://www.apple.com/ichat/

There are many web-cameras that avaliable for IBM PC computers.
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Old 12-27-2005, 02:49 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Hello

I'm has got a new Sorenson VRS. I really excellent a better find a new friend form anywhere. But, I'm real deaf a student. You'll can meeting any adult from student unversity or in southeast state team. What i can be a good new friend. Content my aim is darenht1. who are looking for a new friend.
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Old 01-03-2006, 07:50 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I got mine withing 3 weeks and got it on holloween nite.

That's right DHB!!! We all do fall in love with Sorenson vp-100. I fell in love after I saw my friend had one and was talking to my best friend in NY. Boy I rushed home and applied for it. Glad I did.
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Old 01-03-2006, 10:52 AM   #39 (permalink)
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We applied for Sorenson and got it in 4 days...by mistake! The guy picked our name and came within 4 days..we were puzzled...should be on waiting list but he picked us from bottom not on the top of the list...he made mistake but too late... And we have 2nd one but it is out of order...waiting for new one...still waiting almost 4 or 5 months...

We also have two D-links...we got it fast...I can't remember how long. I use either Sorenson or Dlink one. If wanna real private, use the Dlink...

it is HELL worth it! I love it...easy to go on relay and explained what I wanted or needed...I'll say maybe 3-4 times a week to use Relay.

I've heard some of my friend waited for long time...from 3 months to 1 year. I believe they are 'freeze' for giving out the free VP right now but I can be wrong. A friend told me...but I'll ask her again because her boyfriend work with VP (CAD) and heard about Sorenson.
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:40 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Sorenson's puppet? What you meant by that?
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You are right, I just found out he's a Sorenson puppet.

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Old 06-13-2006, 10:44 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I sent an application to get myself a Sorenson VRS last 2 weeks.. and i hear nothing from them.... i wonder how long does it takes to hear from them again?
try sent an application online daily until you get approved
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Youd probably have to muster their rigid identity qualification tests. Youd have to be deaf enough and been through deafhood and measure up high enough to the white deaf yardstick before you can get your VP from them.

Thats the thing they put me through when I applied for it and I failed to meet their qualifications which explains exactly why Ive had the funny problems getting a VP from Sorenson the first place.

Is that right Kay Vincent?

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Old 06-13-2006, 11:21 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Is that right Kay Vincent?

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Who is Kay ?
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Who is Kay ?
She's someone high in the Sorenson corporate genealogy.

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She's someone high in the Sorenson corporate genealogy.

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How high ? what position ?
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How high ? what position ?
I've worked with Kay before she moved on to Sorenson. What's your beef with her? She's just a marketing consultant, for all I know.
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I've worked with Kay before she moved on to Sorenson. What's your beef with her? She's just a marketing consultant, for all I know.
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Is that right Kay Vincent?

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I do not have any beef with her but why did Richard mention Kay Vincent?

That is why I was asking Richard.
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Why dont you ask Kay yourself.

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Why dont you ask Kay yourself.

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You must be very very angry about her... Sorry... Hope all goes well with you despite of that.
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Youd probably have to muster their rigid identity qualification tests. Youd have to be deaf enough and been through deafhood and measure up high enough to the white deaf yardstick before you can get your VP from them.

Thats the thing they put me through when I applied for it and I failed to meet their qualifications which explains exactly why Ive had the funny problems getting a VP from Sorenson the first place.

Is that right Kay Vincent?

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There was no such tests, no "white deaf yardstick", etc. All I had to do to qualify was to say that I am deaf and that I have high speed internet. That's about it. I applied for it last week and I just got my VP today. So quit talking about your imaginary yardstick.
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I applied for it last week and I just got my VP today. So quit talking about your imaginary yardstick.
Indeed, my fiancee signed up early last week and got e-mailed today about setting up the installation or whatnot.
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Why dont you ask Kay yourself.

Richard
why cant you explain yourself? you refuse the viedophone or kay refuse you viedophone?

you deaf? you have high speed? if yes to both then get viedophone no gimmick

yardstick? har har, there are no yardstick
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I bet they told Richard to go to hell.

Why should they give him one after all the trash he has talked about them over the years.

Then again why would he want one from them after all the trash he has talked about them over the years.
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I bet they told Richard to go to hell.

Why should they give him one after all the trash he has talked about them over the years.

Then again why would he want one from them after all the trash he has talked about them over the years.
LOL yeah...

I cannot understand why he hates VP so much...

I have a VP and it is great and they did not give me a hard time in getting one...I am very happy with it.

It's sad that some people do take some things for granted.
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You should talk.
he cant talk cuz he is so deaf.

richard, go and fuck yurself.
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