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Teacherofthedeaf said:
Have you actually considered all the implications of being deaf? The fact that instead of struggling some to understand speech, you would understand none. You would struggle to communicate with people in a store, having to write back and forth. You couldn't use the phone to make an appointment. You couldn't hear safety sirens or alarms. Heaven forbid you run into a police officer and "fail to obey orders" and end up shot over it.
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Guess what TOD? There's something called e-mail and texting that has pretty much replaced speaking on the phone.....And hearing safety sirens and alarms? So what? There are always other alternatives. Hearing is NOT essential.
 
deafdyke said:
There's something called e-mail and texting that has pretty much replaced speaking on the phone...
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In some ways yes. But not entirely. There are still very large groups of people who insist on still using voice phone/calls... Most notably recruiters and hiring managers. Even when you TELL them that you don't have/use voice phone in email, the very next email they send will say "Please send me your contact number" or "Please call me".

D'OH!

I am born deaf, use hearing aids(with terrible speech discrim), know sign, use VRS with vco (my expressive signing is a little rusty and receptive fingerspelling sucks) and YES hearing does matter in some circle no matter how much I state the opposite.
 
deafdyke said:
There's something called e-mail and texting that has pretty much replaced speaking on the phone.
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Really!?! Then why do I have to call my doctor's office to make an appointment? And as Deaf Ducky said, many, many recruiters and hiring managers insist on using the phone. I once sent an email (or "contact us") to the top guy at a staffing agency to tell him one of his guys left a voice mail that I could not understand (I used the phone number to track down the agency). Guess what his response was? Call me.

It's a HEARING world, deafdyke. Get used to it. Slowly there are changes, but it will always be a hearing world and most hearies will not go to the trouble to make it easier for us.

And hearing safety sirens and alarms? So what?
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So what!?! So, I want to hear warnings so that I can protect myself and my loved ones. Yeah, there are some that have flashing lights, but you can't depend on that for everything. Somehow I don't think tornado warnings have flashing lights.
 
Thankfully at least with warning sirens for weather related issues also now have app notifications (that is if you are lucky to have a smart phone) and slowly more alerts on TV are including captions and live interpreters in an inset window.
 
LoveBlue said:
Really!?! Then why do I have to call my doctor's office to make an appointment? And as Deaf Ducky said, many, many recruiters and hiring managers insist on using the phone. I once sent an email (or "contact us") to the top guy at a staffing agency to tell him one of his guys left a voice mail that I could not understand (I used the phone number to track down the agency). Guess what his response was? Call me.

It's a HEARING world, deafdyke. Get used to it. Slowly there are changes, but it will always be a hearing world and most hearies will not go to the trouble to make it easier for us.

So what!?! So, I want to hear warnings so that I can protect myself and my loved ones. Yeah, there are some that have flashing lights, but you can't depend on that for everything. Somehow I don't think tornado warnings have flashing lights.
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You are correct, honest with y'all, the hearing loss has affect on our quality of life because of difficult to find a job (not if you are late-deafened, also receive CI and speaking very well), deal with a lot of hang up if use relay service (not VP), incapable to hear around surrounding in video games (it means you need bass stereo to vibrate you when someone approach), if anyone can't read so you cannot communicate with them via writing or typing, frequent incorrect orders, misunderstood communication on VP, you have to deal with angry customers if you can't hear their saying "excuse me" or "move", difficult to communicate with police officers in some areas because they weren't trained to deal with situation, deaf devices (fire alarm with flashing, time alarm with vibration) are often more expensive than generic devices, deal with misunderstood communication in ASL because not all ASL are created equally or you didn't communicate in full or desired as you want and some other barriers. There are interpreter shortage in some metros and they often not available for on-demand like getting interpreter for 3 pm appointment after you called at 1 pm on same day.

If you are not comfortable with CI or hearing aids and unable to speak at all, that's alright and you can go life as 100% silent but you will have to deal with problems and barriers, so there is no perfect with life.

In here, you can't e-mail or text to therapists and psychiatrists so it must call on phone or use VP, also some doctors don't have portal so you must call them to make appointment.

Seriously, I don't find being deaf is easy for me, but for me, I'm more classified as deafblind - much worse than deaf alone.
 
Xela Luna said:
I know I wouldn't get any of it, and I don't go out much anyways so when I do go somewhere if it's urgent yes I'd be okay with writing things down. I don't worry about salons or the market or even bowling since we have deaf friendly ones here. At the bowling alley I go to they all know ASL since there is a deaf leave there.

At my salon there is also a worker who made it mandatory for them to know asl. As well as the market near me.

The police thing I do understand. I read a article of a deaf man being shot. But in my mind I would stay in the car hands on wheel, if the police asks something I would have something stating that 'I Am Deaf' I would point to where it at so the officer would now I'm getting something and show it to them.

Even though you didn't mention music I know that I won't hear it, but I can feel it.

Plus as I said, when I said it I didn't mean that I was going to be deaf or try to be deaf. I was saying an opinion. Its not like I say I want to be and I magically become deaf. I have thought being deaf through in the past. But again it's not like i am gonna force myself to be deaf.
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No, you haven't thought it through or you wouldn't think that it would be cool or fun.
 
I dont dwell on trying to be hearing. I am deaf and I am part of the Deaf world. I work in the hearing world and just make the best of it. In other words, I am happy being deaf. Growing up, I wasted so much time wishing I was hearing.
 
deafdyke said:
Guess what TOD? There's something called e-mail and texting that has pretty much replaced speaking on the phone.....And hearing safety sirens and alarms? So what? There are always other alternatives. Hearing is NOT essential.
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So you think it is appropriate for a hearing person to wish to be deaf?
 
While I am not saying someone who is essentially hearing should wish to be deaf, I do know many hard of hearing people who feel not a part of either the hearing or deaf world. I have met some deaf people with a progressive loss who have said they hating being a hard of hearing person and are much happier as a deaf person. While life isn't easier, they are more comfortable with their identity - discarding their hearing aid or CI and being completely visual rather than trying hear.
 
DeafNerdMommy said:
This is super true. Being hearing once does make it a little easier in the hearing world and I believe a little harder in the deaf world.
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This is not always true , I know people that lost their hearing as they gotten older and didn't like wearing their HA b/c it was too hard to put on or it didn't help .
So they end up feeling left out when they were with other people , some people have a very hard time adjusting to losing their hearing .
 
Also I know asl so to whomever said "The password to being involved in the deaf community is a peace sign on the forehead"
Yeah sure it is..

Also I just hate the fact that I am considered Hearing but words are always muffled and people get mad at me for making them repeat themselves. Cause they think since I can hear I should understand every word that escapes their lips.

Also, I wouldn't do anything stupid to make myself go deaf. I've read posts of people wanting to glue their ears or pour alcohol and stuff in their ears to go deaf.

Even if there was a simple way I wouldn't do it. If I ever go deaf it would be a natural cause not self voluntarily.
 
oh boy here we go again

first of all, i know i'm fucked. I have learned to live being ignored and pretend like i don't exist so that's all i can do in life. second, you should protect your hearing and try not to lose it. it's a necessity for a success in life and if you lose it, people will act like you don't exist and don't care about you. i've been through a lot like getting bullied cause of it, and failing grades cause of it and it's pretty much a necessity for a success in anything in life.
 
Teacherofthedeaf said:
So you think it is appropriate for a hearing person to wish to be deaf?
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No, not at all. It's akin to someone saying " Oh I wish I was black, or Asian or any other "cool" minority. But on the other hand, I have had hearing people express envy that dhh people can turn off their hearing with a flick of the switch. (by turning off their HA or CI)
 
Teacherofthedeaf said:
She said that she wished she was fully deaf because it would be easier for her.
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So wait... you're now saying that HOH people are essentially hearing? I have met HOH people who have expressed that they wish they were fully deaf so that they didn't have to deal with sounds or speech therapy or hearing aids. Great, we realize as a hearing person you value hearing. That doesn't mean everyone else idolizes hearing as An Amazing Sense That Cannot Be Lived Without.
 
The deafness (hearing loss) is medical condition, but for black, Asian and minorities, it is race, not medical condition.

For adults, it is up to you to treat the deafness with hearing aids or CI, but for children, it is up to parents, also sometime, children make own decision with parent's support.
 
whatislife said:
oh boy here we go again

first of all, i know i'm fucked. I have learned to live being ignored and pretend like i don't exist so that's all i can do in life. second, you should protect your hearing and try not to lose it. it's a necessity for a success in life and if you lose it, people will act like you don't exist and don't care about you. i've been through a lot like getting bullied cause of it, and failing grades cause of it and it's pretty much a necessity for a success in anything in life.
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No it's not. If it was essential for success, then all hearing people would be incredibily successful. Also what about all the Deaf people who don't speak like Nyle? Your problem isn't your lack of hearing, but rather the lack of dhh specific experiences you did not have in your life. I can almost guarentee that if you had been nudged towards a deaf camp, or a deaf school, and a variety of educational, social and life experiences your perspective wouldn't be that you're " hearing impaired" and that you cannot function/ are a failure without perfect hearing, but you would have had a variety of incredibly healthy experiences.
 
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